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[FujiwaraKaito]

Hi, WHere can i get an overview of all expert modes availables/recommended at respective levels?

 

Thank you

[SammyFM]

Dungeon                                      Expert mode

 

15 Wolves' Den (15)                     No

20 Wolves' Den (20)                     No

22 City Hall Culverts                     Yes

27 Temple of Water                       No

29 Underground Graveyard (30)  Yes

35 Spectres' Tower                       Yes

35 Underground Graveyard (35)  Yes

40 Magma Dungeon                     NO (edited)

45 Akia Cave                                Yes

45 Verdurous Forest                    Yes

50 Kundara Dungeon                   Yes

55 Red Fox Delta                         Yes

60 Van Cliff                                   Yes

65 Drakos Tower                          Yes

70 Black Claw Nest                       I dont think so

 

Edited by SammyFM, 05 September 2017 - 11:07 AM.

[FujiwaraKaito]

Dungeon                                      Expert mode

 

15 Wolves' Den (15)                     No

20 Wolves' Den (20)                     No

22 City Hall Culverts                     Yes

27 Temple of Water                       No

29 Underground Graveyard (30)  Yes

35 Spectres' Tower                       Yes

35 Underground Graveyard (35)  Yes

40 Magma Dungeon                     Yes

45 Akia Cave                                Yes

45 Verdurous Forest                    Yes

50 Kundara Dungeon                   Yes

55 Red Fox Delta                         Yes

60 Van Cliff                                   Yes

65 Drakos Tower                          Yes

70 Black Claw Nest                       I dont think so

 

Thank you! this helps <3

 

[9851170220163549840]

They say it depends on your weapon upgrade on where you need to level, if you only have +10~15 weap go to Verd Forest (or Underground Graveyard as an alternative, depending on class but VF has better exp i think and with nice drops) if +20, go to Red Fox Delta.

 

But as mentioned, "they" said this one. As for me, ever since I'm only leveling at VF for fast run. When I had +10 weap, I did UG for Faster Run, but now I have +14 I can run Verd Forest faster with more exp at the same time.

[Fliederduft78]

Just wanted to mention that the Magma Dungeon has no expert mode.

[cartouche]

Dungeon                                      Expert mode

 

15 Wolves' Den (15)                     No

20 Wolves' Den (20)                     No

22 City Hall Culverts                     Yes expert lvl 27+

27 Temple of Water                       No

29 Underground Graveyard (30)  Yes

35 Spectres' Tower                       Yes expert lvl 40+

35 Underground Graveyard (35)  Yes expert lvl 40+

40 Magma Dungeon                     No

45 Akia Cave                                Yes expert lvl 50+

45 Verdurous Forest                    Yes expert lvl 50+

50 Kundara Dungeon                   Yes expert lvl 55+

55 Red Fox Delta                         Yes expert lvl 60+

60 Van Cliff                                   Yes expert lvl 65+

65 Drakos Tower                          Yes expert lvl 75+

70 Black Claw Nest                      no

 

corrections in green

 

best for silver coins : expert drakos (expert paris wings = 10k)

best for gold farm : expert aram (belt of perseverance = 3k) / drakos (expert paris wings = 10k)

best for exp : ryvious (verdure forest) (verdure ring = 400g, verdure earrings = 500g)

[HakannBlast]

still dont now why people buy aram belt is such a trap lol

[5143121023173906760]

Aram belt has nearly 1K damage and it gives even more since the ATK buff for physical classes. Also if I remember right you can make MS bonus with 2 pieces.

[cartouche]

Aram belt has nearly 1K damage and it gives even more since the ATK buff for physical classes. Also if I remember right you can make MS bonus with 2 pieces.

 

+331 atk

 

and because it is a flat bonus (same as absolute cards) it does not get multiplied by your stats.

 

the 2 set bonus gives 12% movement speed.

 

I also have no idea why people are prepared to pay upwards of 3k gold for them, but hey theyre easy enough to farm right?

[SammyFM]

+331 atk

 

 

if you +20 it you get around 800 atk

[Vossel]

strange, cuz when i unequip my earrings with my socket card with absolute ATK on it, i lose more ATK than the socket card gives

 

[FujiwaraKaito]

They say it depends on your weapon upgrade on where you need to level, if you only have +10~15 weap go to Verd Forest (or Underground Graveyard as an alternative, depending on class but VF has better exp i think and with nice drops) if +20, go to Red Fox Delta.

But as mentioned, "they" said this one. As for me, ever since I'm only leveling at VF for fast run. When I had +10 weap, I did UG for Faster Run, but now I have +14 I can run Verd Forest faster with more exp at the same time.

Hi, well im actually lv 64 summy, weapon is lv63 ele gun +20 and lv40 ele gun +15
Im jz playing around expert modes cuz it seems fun. I did vf expert on my own. It is fun. So i shud try rfd as well?

Well i asked for the list cuz i wana try all of them: D and yea i dun care much about lvling im playing it slow hehe

corrections in green

best for silver coins : expert drakos (expert paris wings = 10k)
best for gold farm : expert aram (belt of perseverance = 3k) / drakos (expert paris wings = 10k)
best for exp : ryvious (verdure forest) (verdure ring = 400g, verdure earrings = 500g)

I would like to express my heartfelt gratitude for providing all the details. Now i have an idea as to when n where to play when i hit certain lvls. Thank you

Edited by FujiwaraKaito, 05 September 2017 - 07:05 PM.

[9851170220163549840]

I have question for Drakos Expert mode, is there a teleport scroll for certain levels in drakos expert? Or is it only available for Hero mode. Haven't tried it yet

[nighty007]

I have question for Drakos Expert mode, is there a teleport scroll for certain levels in drakos expert? Or is it only available for Hero mode. Haven't tried it yet

 

No there arent any scrolls for Expert drakos.
You always start stage 26 and have to go to 50 this already takes around a hour depending on the class and how fast you are. But well, you have a little chance to drop the best def wings in the game (Paris Red and Blue)

[5143121023173906760]

+331 atk

and because it is a flat bonus (same as absolute cards) it does not get multiplied by your stats.

Base equipement ATK and DEF are increased by your soul force and every enchanting above +15.

Also the recent buff increases the total damage (even the Final Damage Amplification) so I don't see why should it be different.

[9851170220163549840]

No there arent any scrolls for Expert drakos.
You always start stage 26 and have to go to 50 this already takes around a hour depending on the class and how fast you are. But well, you have a little chance to drop the best def wings in the game (Paris Red and Blue)

 

But it still drop secma parts right? can we still use it as a hunting/farming ground.

[SammyFM]

But it still drop secma parts right? can we still use it as a hunting/farming ground.

 

just use a hero 40 scroll, waay better for farming

[Fliederduft78]

It does, all of them. I personally use it as farming ground. I like the chance of getting the high value wings.

Edited by Fliederduft78, 07 September 2017 - 12:06 AM.

[Agitodesu]

Flieder would you happen to know which expert modes give a high amount of experience? I've ran city hall sewers and got no more than 2-4%, I could just run an F1 in Level 20-30 maps and get 40% or more in less than 2-4 minutes. I'm revisiting the beginning areas of the game with a friend although I already have everything at 81-85 to stay updated. I've already noted that Paris and Verderous forest give massive exp. I may assume something like graveyard may be an exp dungeon.

Edited by Agitodesu, 21 September 2017 - 08:58 AM.

[5143121023173906760]

XP in the game mostly depends on HP, and we all know that HP in Expert mode mostly scales around ATK and character level.
I've tried using a +20 weapon at level 25 in the Sewers and only got 10 % XP. So I guess it's not that worth at low levels.

[Agitodesu]

Hmm it does make sense, I could guess that expert modes were an alternative to F7 and there is no F7 pre 40, guessing that F1 is still the best till you reach 40.

[5143121023173906760]

If I plan on continue on leveling up an alt I will be able to tell you at which level does it really get interesting. Though you might note that I was using an assassin and a rogue. Maybe a monk, a sumonner, or even more party members could actually increase the monsters' HP.

Also I should work on my Steam guide somedays and add that Expert Dungeon thingy.

[Fliederduft78]

Long story short, the more monsters are in a particular expert mode dungeon the more exp you gain inside. That is why Farrell is less rewarding EXP wise - there are only a few monsters inside compared to the other expert dungeons. In lower levels the most rewarding ones would be the graveyard ones. After that Akanai, Verdurous, Kundara, Van Cliff and Drakos. Some do include Redfox but it actually gives less exp than Kundara.

 

I should mention the higher the dungeon level gets the more exp you get for killing the endboss of it. This information could be useful to people exp farming inside expert mode dungeons.

 

It is always worth it to compare the time and exp ratio of you clearing the particular expert mode. Sometimes it is more rewarding to run the same expert mode dungeon several times instead of clearing a higher level one. Yes you get less exp per run but sometimes it is still worth it to do so especially in the cases you need a lot more time for clearing a higher level expert mode dungeon just once. Means it can be more rewarding exp wise to run a lower level expert mode dungeon over and over again. But it all depends on your clearing speed of the particular dungeon.

[Dynasto]

Some do include Redfox but it actually gives less exp than Kundara.

 

I've tried every Expert dungeon and this one is way the fastest way to become lv 81. Flieder maybe for you it seems that the dungeon gives less exp, but the final boss of Redfox gives at least ~30% exp (with all ways to get extra exp(Cookie x1.9, Device x1.6+, EXP x2, Combo x1,5, maybe Jacks Bean x2)  and the rest of the dungeon gives ~20%.

That makes 50% each run and if you are trained a bit you only need 15 minutes each run. I've lvled up there from 65-81 in under 12 hours.

 

I prefer to use a +20 weapon and some melon pieces or slices of cake. 

[Fliederduft78]

So far so good, that is about right. But in my personal case Verdurous takes only about 10 mins (a little less) each run. So I can do 3 Verdurous runs in the time you ( and I ) would need for 2 Redfox runs and in my personal case this means I gain more exp by doing it that way. This might not be the case for you though, as I said it is very dependend on the clearing speed of the particular expert mode dungeon.

 

To each their own.

 

 

However at the end of the day everyone should just farm the expert mode dungeon they like the best.

Edited by Fliederduft78, 21 September 2017 - 10:52 AM.