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#1 kmax86

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 05:07 AM

How big is the difference between the two?

Does it really matter on the long run that I have a two-handed instead of a claymore?

 

I am not bothered with resale.

 

I am planning on investing most of my zeny for an all rounder weapon for Bowling Bash.

It will be carded with Zipper Bear cards as I cannot afford to get specific weaps for race/elements

 

+7 THS[2] is very cheap compared to a +7Claymore[2] allowing me to buy pots with whatever savings I get.

 

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 06:25 AM

Claymore all the way, no contest
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Posted 05 September 2017 - 07:12 PM

Claymore all the way, no contest

 

Don't listen to this guy. Whatever you are farming, let's say High Orcs. They will die to two BB's with an Ice Claymore as well as dying to two BB's from a Two-Handed Sword. Maybe even by a non-carded two-handed sword as well. The point is, whatever you are farming, if it dies in the same amount of BB's then go ahead and follow min/maxing principle and just min in out.

 

Although in the case of High Orcs, you one shot BB with ~85 base str, priest buffs, masquerade, and a +5 Ice Claymore.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 07:24 PM

If you want to farm common mobs and grind till 99 then it's a two-handed sword all the way, most mobs will die with 2 BBs no matter wich one you use anyway, if they don't then possibly an elemental claymore will do the job just fine, no need for a +7 Double Carded Claymore for this kind of stuff.

 

If you want to kill some weak MvP that doesn't require a shileld to tank then the claymore is a better option for max efficiency.


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 03:17 AM

Thanks for all the suggestions. Found out I have enough materials for a VVS Ice Claymore and with the help of free forge services, it saved me nearly all of my zeny.

 

Might invest the zeny to immune muffler instead currently using Undershirt + Pantie. Or do you think it will be worth spending on another weapon for let say raydrics?


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 10:35 PM

A +5 very very strong ice claymore will last you till 99 allowing you to farm at CT High orcs, Castle 2 (raydrics, nightmares wanders, alices and AK's) and magma dungeon (magma requiring fire armor which can be used for castle 2)

With magma 1 being the easier option and less intensive on pot consumption then castle 2, So save your zeny and get a immune manteu.


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 10:01 AM

Thanks for the advice. I bought an immune muffler instead. 

Also bought Pecopeco armor and got lucky with Matyr Card. Things are turning out nicely for my knight. Materials are also now ready for a possible VVS Wind Claymore for anolians or byalan. Hopefully it can be forged in 1 go too.

 

Now saving for a pasana card for magma dungeon.


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:00 PM

Claymore all the way, no contest

 

Don't listen to this guy. It is a HUGE contest between zeny vs value. Two-Handed Sword if you don't care about resale value, go with the Two-Handed Sword.

 

Unless you're going for "THE BEST", Two-Handed Sword is the most cost effective two-handed weapon for a Knight atm.

 

However if you ever plan to go into an area for a specific mob, use the elemental Claymore. The price difference between that and an elemental Two-Handed Sword is not too much of a difference, go with the higher attack.


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 12:14 AM

I tested both at chiv1, with +7 Claymore 2x zipper vs. +7 twohand 2x andre.

 

Clay needed 1-2 less BB to kill.

 

 

I bought that clay instant.


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Posted 19 September 2017 - 04:52 PM

I tested both at chiv1, with +7 Claymore 2x zipper vs. +7 twohand 2x andre.

 

Clay needed 1-2 less BB to kill.

 

 

I bought that clay instant.

 

Of course, instead of a 20atk gap, with those cards you made it reach 40. 40atk difference its huge.


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:00 PM

Thanks all for the advice. My initial investments so far were very much worth it.

 

The VVS Ice Claymore is very effective for HOs but it is starting to become boring at CTHO and Im looking for other places to grind.

 

So far I have 3 choices:

 

1- get +7 Dual Zipper Claymores and go to raydrics

2- Craft VVS Wind and go to anolians

3- buy Bathory and go to Magma

 

Anyone got input on whats the best choice from the three or other suggestions?


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 06:22 AM

Zipper bears nuke your SP, just use Andre. Another suggestion I have for leveling spot, is Sphinx5 with a Bathory card, you need a 2xHydra weapon (2H sword is good enough) or Ice weapon, if you get an Ice, ignore the Anubis, if you get a D.Bloody, you can try to kill them for a good amount of XP; make sure you wear a poo hat too, and immune garment helps a lot too, Pasanas deal a lot of damage but die quickly.


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 08:03 AM

Thanks, I tried Pasanas before but I keep getting nuked by Anubis.

 

Good tip about andres will just lost about 20atk but save SP.

 

Will start hunting for a cheap bathory and replace my pecopeco chain mail. As this will allow for magma and pasanas


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 08:12 AM

i wouldn't recommend 2x zipper bear for castle.. either go 1x zipper bear 1x mummy, or 1x minorous 1x mummy


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 02:36 PM

Zipper bears nuke your SP, just use Andre. Another suggestion I have for leveling spot, is Sphinx5 with a Bathory card, you need a 2xHydra weapon (2H sword is good enough) or Ice weapon, if you get an Ice, ignore the Anubis, if you get a D.Bloody, you can try to kill them for a good amount of XP; make sure you wear a poo hat too, and immune garment helps a lot too, Pasanas deal a lot of damage but die quickly.

 

Zipper Bears only nuke your sp if you auto attack, wich as a Vit knight you shouldnt be doing any way. (Zipper bear is 1 sp per hit drain and not a continous draining per second like Maximize Power). If you are worried about your sp or are like me who likes to autoattack just to see the critical and double attack animation (LOL) just bring another sword with you, like a Muramasa or an elemental claymore and switch to it when you want to autoattack. Double Zipper claymore/zweihander its still the best all-purpose weapon available for Knight right now.

 

Also, never ever go to anubis without Bathory. SoulStrike of Darkness hits like a nuke and you also have to worry about pasanas , minorus´ heaven drive and anubis other skills. Killing only pasanas may sound as good idea, but the exp received wont be anything great and you´ll have to endure a lot of frustration having to teleport when an anubis walks in and leaving your kill/loot behind.


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 02:48 PM

i wouldn't recommend 2x zipper bear for castle.. either go 1x zipper bear 1x mummy, or 1x minorous 1x mummy

 

Minorous is not a bad idea, might be a good weapon also for other instances like anubis or MVPing.Wanderers are medium though, and you want to kill them as fast as possible as most of the damage you receive is from wanderers.

 

Mummy card is only needed if your dex is below 50 base and you have no support. for a 60+base dex blessing its enough to hit wanderers most of the time. Base Dex between 50 and 60 might require Miracle buff on top of buffs to reach the same goal. Castle 2 is a place to party, I wouldn´t recommend soloing it as It wouldn´t be as profitable.


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