27 replies to this topic

[trctelles]

Hello friends and fellow gamers! I recently got interested in WOE and PVP and started getting my gear to go to these places.

 

Anyway, I'm lvl 98 Hybrid Knight (80 STR/ 60 AGI/ 70 VIT/ 56 DEX) and I was wondering what could be some good options for cards to go to WOE.

Some people said that for generic purposes, Alligator Card is a good one. I don't quite see it, since most of the damage I THINK I'll be receiving will be from Traps (not sure if they count as ranged), BB from other Knights and maybe Magic damage from Pre Cast.

 

I was considering getting a couple more Rosarys[1], and put a Yoyo card in one to help leveling at GH2, but I don't think 4.5~5mil for 5 perfect dodge and a 3 MDEF are worth it (correct me if I'm wrong in this one).

 

Well, thats what I had in mind. Thanks in advance for those able to help me out! 

Edited by trctelles, 09 September 2017 - 12:00 PM.

[azertygf]

alligator / spore / yoyo

 

depend on what you want to do with those rosary.

 

for pvm yoyo is better / for woe actually i think of the spore card / later the alligator gonna be the best to have when the bard gonna be released.

[Marcosrag]

Why card Alligator if we do not have creator yet?

[NamzaKaren]

Why card Alligator if we do not have creator yet?

Don't underestimate the power of tens of Arrow Showers under the effect of Drum of the Battlefield (+250 atk) and Volcano (+50 atk and 20% fire damage). My guild utilizes those skills and our defend is impenetrable.

[Longinus]

I choose Yoyo for my SVD Knight.  Works wonders.

[Marcosrag]

Don't underestimate the power of tens of Arrow Showers under the effect of Drum of the Battlefield (+250 atk) and Volcano (+50 atk and 20% fire damage). My guild utilizes those skills and our defend is impenetrable.

Are we talking about the memso server? restart.

[jysup]

Alligator . most magic atk is range . And Rosary got mdef . 

[Quoc]

Alligator card. As a melee knight, ranged damage is your bane. Unless things have changed, Storm Gust is considered a form of ranged damage.

Edited by Quoc, 10 September 2017 - 08:51 PM.

[Ashuckel]

magic =/= ranged.

[Quoc]

magic =/= ranged.

 

I can assure you unless it changed in Renewal(I played before Renewal from Chaos+Loki to Valkyrie),

Alligator card did in fact reduce Storm Gust damage(aka magic damage). However Archer Skeleton does not increase Storm Gust damage.

 

Some magic attack = ranged. Firebolt = Not ranged. Storm Gust = ranged.

Edited by Quoc, 11 September 2017 - 10:00 AM.

[Greyhame]

Alligator reduces magic damage and it is the best acc card we have right now. And yes, people should put it in a Rosary if they can afford to.

[Ashuckel]

I can assure you unless it changed in Renewal(I played before Renewal from Chaos+Loki to Valkyrie),

Alligator card did in fact reduce Storm Gust damage(aka magic damage). However Archer Skeleton does not increase Storm Gust damage.

 

Some magic attack = ranged. Firebolt = Not ranged. Storm Gust = ranged.

[Quoc]

 

If this is true then the mechanics changed with Renewal. I already stated my case that it "did" reduce Storm Gust damage damage pre-renewal.

So right now if what you show is true for all cases in current RO, you are correct.

 

So meanwhile you're right currently in Renewal mechanics, I was not wrong as I already stated unless it changed with Renewal(which it did) then the range reduction should work on Storm Gust. However this is not a case of right or wrong so it doesn't matter, if your current answer is the correct one for the current RO, then that's the answer the OP should go by.

 

I do thank you for this information about Renewal, quite a lot has changed and I still have more to learn about if I'm to continue on this server.

Edited by Quoc, 11 September 2017 - 12:02 PM.

[Marcosrag]

Well, as I played pre-renewal I want to know if the card Alligator is reducing magician attack type NEVASCA

 

Well, as I played pre-renewal I want to know if the card Alligator is reducing magician attack type NEVASCA.

Receive 5% less damage 
from Long Ranged 
Physical Attack.

Edited by Marcosrag, 12 September 2017 - 05:49 AM.

[RistrettoJoe]

Rosary[1] with Yoyo Card. U can dodge magic damage with it 

[Ashuckel]

no

[Marcosrag]

Rosary[1] with Yoyo Card. U can dodge magic damage with it 

kkkkkkkkkkkkk

[Quoc]

 

Well, as I played pre-renewal I want to know if the card Alligator is reducing magician attack type NEVASCA

 

Well, as I played pre-renewal I want to know if the card Alligator is reducing magician attack type NEVASCA.

Receive 5% less damage 
from Long Ranged 
Physical Attack.

 

 

It "should". Based on the information I've found, the change was when Renewal revamped the RO mechanics. Pre-Renewal if untouched should keep the mechanic where anti-range reduces stuff like Storm Gust.

 

I would ask someone in the server you're on to be sure.

Edited by Quoc, 12 September 2017 - 10:00 AM.

[Marcosrag]

Well I did the test and it does not reduce!

[Quoc]

Well I did the test and it does not reduce!

 

That's too bad, the accessory combo along with other ranged+racial reduction was how my Minstrel had such a high survival rate in WoE in the past. Generally only double EDP Sonic Blow dance or G-Fist could kill my Minstrel(MvP/god items aside), everything else was pretty much out potion-able. Perhaps iRO deemed it as a bug and changed it. I had a fun few years with it reducing a bunch of AoE attacks.

 

Btw which skills did you test it with? Just to be sure. If it's Storm Gust then yeah nothing left to be said. If it's Firebolt or whatever cast bolts then do another test with another skill.

Edited by Quoc, 12 September 2017 - 11:58 AM.

[Marcosrag]

All skil of wizards

All skil of wizards

[DisposableHero]

Yoyo cards are awesome, just saying.

[RuroniKenshin]

Rosary[1] with Yoyo Card. U can dodge magic damage with it 

 

I checked on irowiki, it says:

 

• Perfect Dodge does not work against skill attacks, traps, or magic.

 

http://irowiki.org/wiki/Perfect_Dodge

[187150329122126350]

I have alligator rosary's and tested it with a wizard guildie and it does not reduce ANY magic damage, only long range physical damage.

[MyVictories]

For WOE:

Smokie, because you want to survive a gfist once in a while with hide timing, since that's the only thing that can kill a knight 9 times out of 10. The 1 time it doesn't is when a level 70 monk gfists you or you just run out of woe pots. 

You'll also need a horong belt. Although I'm not sure you want to have a sight rosary, it isn't the worst idea if you have the money.

A yoyo isn't going to do anything in woe, and an alligator is useless in the current restart woe meta as the redundant argument above finally concluded. 1 mantis card barely adds any damage now, but spore cards are better if you want to have 100 total VIT for stun immunity while spending 3-6 less stat points to get it.

Edited by MyVictories, 24 October 2017 - 02:02 AM.