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#1 SaintMulla1

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 04:05 AM

yes or no what you guys think ?


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#2 EwoI

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 04:19 AM

What would you put in it if not an AK?


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Posted 23 September 2017 - 04:44 AM

hydra? or golem later? =o


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#4 iDeco

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 06:15 AM

I don't understand what do you will do with this weapon. This is for pvp? woe? mvp? pvm?


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Posted 23 September 2017 - 10:43 AM

If your sole purpose for the weapon is to hunt MvPs then it's the best card you can use there, if not, then maybe a hydra for PvP or WoE


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Posted 24 September 2017 - 02:07 PM

I think Poll Axe its better for PVP, as it will probably be the best weapon for spiral piercing when it comes in the future. Maybe for an AK a Gungnir[2] would be a better option, as it has 2 slots (for a zipper bear or another AK) and also grants you +30 hit wich helps a lot with the high flee the MVPs have. Also, now that endow is around, Gungnir being Wind elemental is no longer an issue!


Edited by Lan2007, 26 September 2017 - 05:21 PM.

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#7 SaintMulla1

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 01:43 AM

I think Poll Axe its better for PVP, as it already has a demi-human damage boost. Maybe for an AK a Gungnir[2] would be a better option, as it has 2 slots (for a zipper bear or another AK) and also grants you +30 hit wich helps a lot with the high flee the MVPs have. Also, now that endow is around, Gungnir being Wind elemental is no longer an issue!

finally someone thingking the the same way as me haha! 

 

Ps i made it to +7 poll axe! :D


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#8 Thoctar

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 03:12 PM

Been hunting poll axe for 10days now still no luck..dont have much zeny either.,.i envy you man,.
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Posted 26 September 2017 - 05:11 PM

Pole axe is trash lol. Hf with your lvl 3 1 slot spear doing 0 dmg.
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#10 SaintMulla1

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 07:30 PM

Pole axe is trash lol. Hf with your lvl 3 1 slot spear doing 0 dmg.

already having so much fun using quick update dont you think 0 dmg is to harsh make it at least 1 DMG ahaha!


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 03:07 AM

Been hunting poll axe for 10days now still no luck..dont have much zeny either.,.i envy you man,.

 

 

Where you hunt it?   As far as I know it drops from Griffon, TG MVP and Bloody Knight.


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 09:08 AM

already having so much fun using quick update dont you think 0 dmg is to harsh make it at least 1 DMG ahaha!

 

What he probably meant was Gungnir is better in every way compared to Pole Axe.


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 02:15 PM

Where you hunt it? As far as I know it drops from Griffon, TG MVP and Bloody Knight.


Gryphon and Bloody Knight
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Posted 27 September 2017 - 03:23 PM

I think Poll Axe its better for PVP, as it will probably be the best weapon for spiral piercing when it comes in the future. Maybe for an AK a Gungnir[2] would be a better option, as it has 2 slots (for a zipper bear or another AK) and also grants you +30 hit wich helps a lot with the high flee the MVPs have. Also, now that endow is around, Gungnir being Wind elemental is no longer an issue!

 

By the time we get Trans we should either have Hunting Spears available, or Cursed Monastery will come up soon.

 

I agree on the Gungnir [2].  That would definitely be the best option for AK cards.

 

I am curious what the Perfect Hit means.  +25?  What stat is that?  Is it like a % value where 25% of the time, attacks simply won't miss, and the other 75% of the time it goes based on normal hit rate?


Edited by Ignasia, 27 September 2017 - 03:25 PM.

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#15 yoyoninetail

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 05:44 PM

Its just a 25% chance for an autoattack to not miss.
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#16 hmmyea

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 06:10 PM

poll axe is trash unfortunately..


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#17 SaintMulla1

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 08:44 PM

well been doing a good amount of piere dmg on mvps atm large size monsters without ak card yet


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Posted 29 September 2017 - 06:27 AM

Its just a 25% chance for an autoattack to not miss.

 

Would be nice if they used % instead of a +, but I thought so.  Thanks.


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Posted 29 September 2017 - 06:39 AM

poll axe is trash unfortunately..

 

Except that it's not.  You'll definitely get more damage out of 2h Swords, especially a Zwiehander [2], but I've never understood mentalities where it's "highest damage or trash," followed with cognitive dissonance of "it's 0 damage only," if one is just superior in damage to another by a very slight margin.  It's kind of a pinwheel hat moment with a few "durrs" in there.

 

I still like piercing MVPs more than I like BBing them.  It's more fun to watch.  Damage has never been 0 unless I miss.  Even spear BB's still won't do 0 damage =p.  That's just asinine.  Sounds like my Calculus teacher's favourite phrase, "You'll either work for Intel or Allsups [gas station]."  He meant it if questioned, either work for a tech company or give up on math because your life is worthless and you'll hate yourself for it, so 'learn to math,'  Dumbest -_- I've ever heard uttered by a teacher.  Not exactly helpful or inspiring, though it was meant to be.

 

I am curious if Pierce's Hit boost has been fixed finally.  I haven't played much in awhile, and if the Pecopeco's size modifier was fixed (it wasn't dealing 100% with spears on small).  The same with Bash.


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#20 yoyoninetail

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 08:06 AM

Well if you like Pierce hf, but dont be surprised when everyone else using BB does 10 times your dmg and outmvps you every time lul.
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Posted 30 September 2017 - 01:07 PM

Well if you like Pierce hf, but dont be surprised when everyone else using BB does 10 times your dmg and outmvps you every time lul.


Learned that the hard way on phree, its sad that this makes useless the pierce skill
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Posted 01 October 2017 - 10:02 PM

Learned that the hard way on phree, its sad that this makes useless the pierce skill

 

 

I would say gungnir, 64 dex builds, vip buff and BB 2x DMG make pierce useless.

 

 

but I still think poll axe gives more dmg than gungnir, cause the base atk in the dmg formula is different from like Zipper ads.

 

 

I wonder how much DMG a Zipper poll would do to a AK poll axe?

If it's not that much difference, Zipper would be a jack of all trades!

 

 

Same Question I would have for (2) Gungnirs.

 


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#23 Wolfen

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:14 AM

I would say gungnir, 64 dex builds, vip buff and BB 2x DMG make pierce useless.


but I still think poll axe gives more dmg than gungnir, cause the base atk in the dmg formula is different from like Zipper ads.


I wonder how much DMG a Zipper poll would do to a AK poll axe?
If it's not that much difference, Zipper would be a jack of all trades!


Same Question I would have for (2) Gungnirs.


That would be true if for the comparation of pierce vs BB would had been in sword vs spear. But the problem is you do more damage spamming BB with a lance than spamming pierce vs a large target with the same lance.

Only place i have seen pierce outperforming BB is when you drag the MvP to a gutterline and you pierce it to death while the other knights cant do -_- about it
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Posted 08 October 2017 - 02:09 AM

Have some fun and get both Pierce and BB, do hybrid vit/agi build. Pierce can do a lot of damage with a high attack speed. Use 2 hand spears, not a pollaxe.

You won't have enough for Spear boomerang this way though lol.


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#25 Wolfen

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 02:32 PM

Have some fun and get both Pierce and BB, do hybrid vit/agi build. Pierce can do a lot of damage with a high attack speed. Use 2 hand spears, not a pollaxe.

You won't have enough for Spear boomerang this way though lol.


Im hybrid build (50 agi). I tested this with a +7 double clamorous titan trident on phree. Still does higher dps spamming BB with it than piercing it to death
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