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#1 sillycoda

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 09:20 AM

Greetings!

It's been a really long time since I played Ragnarok Online. I have a thief at level 46 right now and I'm still leveling at Bylan dungeon 2. I am working on maxing my str/agi/dex for making a dual dagger build.

 

If you have suggestions for dual dagger builds, that would be wonderful!

 

I am not sure what gear I should be going for as I am leveling and what my end-game gear I should be building/saving towards. 

 

Right now all I have equipped is:

 

Armor: Undershirt + Panty combo

Weapon: Damascus (NPC)

Shield: Buckler

Feet: Shoes

 

I was lucky enough to have a friend give me that equipment and around 3-4 million in Zeny to spend on what I'd like. I've saved that money but I'm hitting my cap for damage at that level using the npc gear (except the undershirt panty combo, that's giving me +6 AGI so that's great). 

 

I would really appreciate some tips on leveling and what gear I could buy with that amount of Zeny to help me level faster in more dangerous places. Also if you could type out what the end gear I should work towards, that would be wonderful!

 

Thank you for all your help in advance :)

 

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 09:57 AM

Hi Silly, 

 

Currently the sin dd is a weak build for the server and face patterns, but for those who like it so I am a great choice for pvm, even more can toggle the build between DD (dagger) and DA (Katar + Snake Hat).

 

I will quote some tips hope it helps:

 

Places  up to level 6x:
 
Wolfs, Mystic Case, Hodes ..
 
You can move smoothly with npc equipment up to level 6x. After that my tip for an up with low cost would be to buy one or two Fortune Sword's and two belts with Yoyo Card and to enter some party like mobber in the HO's in Alde, abusing of its flee and perfect flee high.
 
Lvl 85+  you can party in the Anolians in the Tower, so I recommend the following equipment:
 
+7 or + Gladius [3] (Zipper x3) -----  or  ------- + x Elemental Damascus
+ x Main Gauche [4] (2 Element dmg, 1 Race dmg, 1 Size dmg)
Any Garment [1] (Raydric or Whisper)
Any armor with swordfish card (to lessen damage)
2x Belts with Yoyo Card
 
(These are the basic equipment for a quiet up there)
 
I can abuse the mob there using Tocaia with some Katar against the Anolians as well or kill 1x1.
 
As for build I recommend
 
Str 8x
Agi 8x
Dex 5x
Vit 4x
 
 

Edited by SemBadTriip, 26 September 2017 - 10:06 AM.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 10:09 AM

+ x Main Gauche [4] (2 Element dmg, 1 Race dmg, 1 Size dmg)

 

isn't better +7 glad[3] than +10mg[4]??? I really belive the base attack of the weapons are really important on this system


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 10:30 AM

For Anolians go with a +7 double Saharic Katar ... have Grimmtooth at hand  and a Snake head and you are good to go ... until then HOS as killer oder CT Hos as mobber works well ,same goes for Alarms or Bathory use a set of Daggers or Katar accordingly ( i suggest Katar) 


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 10:31 AM

isn't better +7 glad[3] than +10mg[4]??? I really belive the base attack of the weapons are really important on this system

 

Yes the base attack of the weapons is really important in this system, so DD take such low damage:
 
The base attack of the dagger in the left hand is not added to the attack altogether, only a small part of it (and when I say small it is very small), so a weapon with [4] slots with cards that afflict all the attributes of the monster is better , thus serving as a modifier for the right hand weapon that must be the weapon with the most base attack damage (this is counted completely in its attack).
 
The best current weapons on the server for the DD build are:
+9 ~ + 10 Galdius [3] (Zipper x 3) + Over Sandstorm [4]
But the easiest set to get is Gladius + Main Gauche.

Edited by SemBadTriip, 26 September 2017 - 10:34 AM.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 10:39 AM

Left hand dagger atk will only apply to the left hand hit, and only a portion of it.

Left hand damage consists of 40% of your Status ATK + 60% of your Weapon+Equip Attavk.
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#7 sillycoda

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:01 AM

 

Hi Silly, 

 

Currently the sin dd is a weak build for the server and face patterns, but for those who like it so I am a great choice for pvm, even more can toggle the build between DD (dagger) and DA (Katar + Snake Hat).

 

I will quote some tips hope it helps:

 

Places  up to level 6x:
 
Wolfs, Mystic Case, Hodes ..
 
You can move smoothly with npc equipment up to level 6x. After that my tip for an up with low cost would be to buy one or two Fortune Sword's and two belts with Yoyo Card and to enter some party like mobber in the HO's in Alde, abusing of its flee and perfect flee high.
 
Lvl 85+  you can party in the Anolians in the Tower, so I recommend the following equipment:
 
+7 or + Gladius [3] (Zipper x3) -----  or  ------- + x Elemental Damascus
+ x Main Gauche [4] (2 Element dmg, 1 Race dmg, 1 Size dmg)
Any Garment [1] (Raydric or Whisper)
Any armor with swordfish card (to lessen damage)
2x Belts with Yoyo Card
 
(These are the basic equipment for a quiet up there)
 
I can abuse the mob there using Tocaia with some Katar against the Anolians as well or kill 1x1.
 
As for build I recommend
 
Str 8x
Agi 8x
Dex 5x
Vit 4x

 

 

Thank you so much for such a detailed reply! Really appreciate it :)

 

I will stick with my NPC gear and grind out on wolves or hodes till 60.. That sounds like a good plan.

 

Thanks again!


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:03 AM

Thank you so much for such a detailed reply! Really appreciate it :)

 

I will stick with my NPC gear and grind out on wolves or hodes till 60.. That sounds like a good plan.

 

Thanks again!

 

You're welcome !!

 

My main char is a DD without anything you can send me pm here in the forum or post.


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:07 AM

Sorry it says only 2 more posts can be added till 27th Sept so I am multi-quoting all your replies instead of replying individually.

 

isn't better +7 glad[3] than +10mg[4]??? I really belive the base attack of the weapons are really important on this system

So do you folks recommend I buy a +7 gladius now and save for cards later? I don't think I can afford both the cards and the daggers with the 3-4 mill zeny that I have..

 

For Anolians go with a +7 double Saharic Katar ... have Grimmtooth at hand  and a Snake head and you are good to go ... until then HOS as killer oder CT Hos as mobber works well ,same goes for Alarms or Bathory use a set of Daggers or Katar accordingly ( i suggest Katar) 

Cool beans.. I'm sorry I've forgotten most of the card compounded on weapon descriptions..  What card gives Saharic? 

Also, what level can I start solo'ing High Orcs? And what Agi/Dex would I need to make sure I have enough flee/aspd?

 

 

Yes the base attack of the weapons is really important in this system, so DD take such low damage:
 
The base attack of the dagger in the left hand is not added to the attack altogether, only a small part of it (and when I say small it is very small), so a weapon with [4] slots with cards that afflict all the attributes of the monster is better , thus serving as a modifier for the right hand weapon that must be the weapon with the most base attack damage (this is counted completely in its attack).
 
The best current weapons on the server for the DD build are:
+9 ~ + 10 Galdius [3] (Zipper x 3) + Over Sandstorm [4]
But the easiest set to get is Gladius + Main Gauche.

 

 

Ahhh!! That makes more sense.. Hmm.. So do you suggest I save for a +9 or would a +7 suffice as an end-game gear? Also what card gives "Over Sandstorm"?

 

Left hand dagger atk will only apply to the left hand hit, and only a portion of it.

Left hand damage consists of 40% of your Status ATK + 60% of your Weapon+Equip Attavk.

Rats.. I had forgotten about reduced damage for left hand.. Do you guys think it's a bad idea to keep going as a dual dagger and switch to a crit build instead? I haven't put ANY stats to LUK yet.. And I've pumped a lot into AGI/STR. I think my dex is set to 30 or 40.. Can't remember, I'll post it when I get home from work :)

 

THANKS FOR ALL THE REPLIES!! Appreciate all the love :) :)


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:17 AM

Cool beans.. I'm sorry I've forgotten most of the card compounded on weapon descriptions..  What card gives Saharic? 

Also, what level can I start solo'ing High Orcs? And what Agi/Dex would I need to make sure I have enough flee/aspd?

 

 

Ahhh!! That makes more sense.. Hmm.. So do you suggest I save for a +9 or would a +7 suffice as an end-game gear? Also what card gives "Over Sandstorm"?

 

Rats.. I had forgotten about reduced damage for left hand.. Do you guys think it's a bad idea to keep going as a dual dagger and switch to a crit build instead? I haven't put ANY stats to LUK yet.. And I've pumped a lot into AGI/STR. I think my dex is set to 30 or 40.. Can't remember, I'll post it when I get home from work :)

 

 

  •  Saharic is Drainliar Card, u start solo'ing High Orcs with 285 flee at minimum.
  • Over sandstorm = Upgrade Sandstorm [4] (sorry for the writing)
  • I do not think so good switch build DD for Crit, it would be better from DD to DA sin so you'll enjoy spending points on Dex.
  • Yes, to the end of the game suffice = +7 or more Gladius [3] (Zipper Card x3)

Edited by SemBadTriip, 26 September 2017 - 11:19 AM.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:42 AM

Saharic = Drainlair Card

With Snake head you get double attack so you have the benefit of aspd from a katar and the size mod ,while saving cards spots .

Lv 65+ is finde for Hos at orc dungeon there are often mass level killer partys for that range.

 

For High orcs a +7 Katar with 2 orc lady cards gives you a lot of damage with double attacks, but even here 2 drainlair cards work as well pretty good, same goes for Underwater Dungeon for farming.


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 07:55 PM

Saharic = Drainlair Card

With Snake head you get double attack so you have the benefit of aspd from a katar and the size mod ,while saving cards spots .

Lv 65+ is finde for Hos at orc dungeon there are often mass level killer partys for that range.

 

For High orcs a +7 Katar with 2 orc lady cards gives you a lot of damage with double attacks, but even here 2 drainlair cards work as well pretty good, same goes for Underwater Dungeon for farming.

wouldn't be vadon instead of drainlair for HO's? 


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:10 PM

wouldn't be vadon instead of drainlair for HO's? 

Yes that is correct it would be vadon. 


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 09:05 AM

real pros use +10 main gauche offhand with baphomet + phreeoni cards in it


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 01:01 PM

real pros use +10 main gauche offhand with baphomet + phreeoni cards in it

keep in mind ...at least 3 baphoments... the phreeoni is optional ...


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Posted 28 September 2017 - 08:08 PM

keep in mind ...at least 3 baphoments... the phreeoni is optional ...

 

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 08:10 PM

A thanatos card with samurai is the best option i can imagine.


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