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#26 Ashuckel

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 04:21 AM

(100+80) : (100+50) = 20% increase.

Add in other crit dmg gears and you'll have an even steeper diminishing return. Put a 90% crit dmg on other gears for the sake of simplicity (wich is just temp luk and petal Fatal Faw), and you have 270/240 = 12,5% increase


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 04:31 AM

I tried 20,000 Fragments on sakray and it never went past +6, i'm guessing rates were increased.


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 04:58 AM

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total of 400 Cursed Fragments

Best are
Magic Essence
Affection
Vit 5 Vit 3 Str3
AGI 5 AGI 3 Dex3
DEX3 DEX3 STR3

else trash as F!!!

this is the gdamn RNG Headgear ever!!

Aiming for Adamantine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 05:17 AM

From blank to lv8 special enchant needs 520 fragments when all of the attemtps were success. That is equivalent to around 3,5b.


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 05:21 AM

From blank to lv8 special enchant needs 520 fragments when all of the attemtps were success. That is equivalent to around 3,5b.

 

That is with perfect success, if the screenshot isn't actually from sakray and the rates weren't improved, it would probably be over 100b in fragments.

 

The rate on sakray was 20-30% per attempt, so perhaps they increased that to 30-50%. Considering Kro drop rate is higher when they triple stack gums, and bio5 has been around so long on Kro already, maybe

we did actually get increased rate.
 


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 05:29 AM

(100+80) : (100+50) = 20% increase.

Add in other crit dmg gears and you'll have an even steeper diminishing return. Put a 90% crit dmg on other gears for the sake of simplicity (wich is just temp luk and petal Fatal Faw), and you have 270/240 = 12,5% increase

 

Does that mean players who already do temp luk, fatal faw and abusive luk should aim for +physical atk headgear rather than increased crit damage acute enchants?

 

 


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 05:30 AM

then tou have diminishing returns from your atk% and boss% gears.

Theres no clear better option.
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Posted 30 September 2017 - 05:38 AM

I have always gone down the crit DD pathway since Havenn's active days.

 

Given the introduction of bio5 and watching clips of insane CRS damage on I initially though that some would consider making one headgear for crit with acute enchants, and another for CRS with +atk%.

 

However given your enlightment on the above if there is no clear cut benefit for crit it probably would save me a lot of grief by just getting one old bone circlet with +atk enchants, and bring it up as high as I can.

 

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 07:24 AM

The sad fact is a Level 5 Acute versus a Level 8 Acute is only 12% overall damage increase.

 

What you're saying is not wrong lol


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 09:06 AM

how did you get that figure?

 

Acute
lv 1. : Cri+3, Critical damage+10%
lv 2. : Cri+6, Critical damage+20%
lv 3. : Cri+9, Critical damage+30%
lv 4. : Cri+12, Critical damage+40%
lv 5. : Cri+15, Critical damage+50%
lv 6. : Cri+18, Critical damage+60%
lv 7. : Cri+21, Critical damage+70%
lv 8. : Cri+24, Critical damage+80%
lv 9. : Cri+27, Critical damage+90%
lv 10. : Cri+30, Critical damage+110%
 

You mean 30% difference between 5 and 8?!

 

Does that mean players who already do temp luk, fatal faw and abusive luk should aim for +physical atk headgear rather than increased crit damage acute enchants?

 

Ash pretty much covered it.

 

At the end of the day, as nuts as all these damage figures sound, you will only find true significant value at Level 5 and Level 10. Level 10 will obviously give you a 24% overall damage boost over Level 5, but it truly is not worth the time, effort and resources.

 

It's neat to see that Chakri went ape and got Level 8, but seriously either stop at 5 or reallllly go for that 10. The only enchant that truly would be worth going above 5 for per level is the Magic one, since that gives flat reduced fixed cast time :U


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 09:10 AM

Sorry noob question, what gears you can enchant? Only those new gears as well?


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 09:23 AM


Any idea what the estimated cost in zeny is going from Level 1 to 5 and from Level 1 to 10?


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 09:26 AM

1 to 5 maybe around 1-2b depends on ur rng
1-8 3-5b depends on ur rng
1-10 roughly around 20-25b depends on rng can be tripled or 5 times of that amount
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Posted 30 September 2017 - 09:50 AM

Geez I would not feel comfortable dumping 20B to go from level 1 to 10 unless I get the correct stat enchants in the other two slots
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Posted 30 September 2017 - 10:20 AM

If the rate is the same as Sakray, and the fragments are bought at 6m each, it would cost you about 7 billion average for 1-5, about 150-200 billion for 1-8, and about 1.7 trillion for 1-10.

 

We can't judge actual rates on chaos without full screenshots showing the server, and at least some honesty in the amount of Cursed Fragments used.


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 10:52 AM

RNG is RNG, averages mean nothing.


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 03:40 PM

24% boost can be the very difference between killing a very skilled player at woe and getting killed by them
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Posted 30 September 2017 - 04:00 PM

24% boost can be the very difference between killing a very skilled player at woe and getting killed by them

 

With reductions, it means very little. And suras will kill you before you kill them anyways :U


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 05:13 PM

With reductions, it means very little. And suras will kill you before you kill them anyways :U

 

No  :p_devil:  :p_angel:


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 07:43 PM

With no WoE, it means very little.


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 07:59 PM

Did got 3 stat enchants 3x on my midas. D=
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Posted 30 September 2017 - 09:52 PM

Did got 3 stat enchants 3x on my midas. D=


I had no luck with my Midas either :C
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Posted 01 October 2017 - 12:42 AM

2.6bil thrown so far. Got one lvl1 mettle, lv1 aute. At this point anything over lv5 is already going to bring tears to my eyes.


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Posted 01 October 2017 - 12:57 PM

3rd time was the charm x-x So glad it didn't take me even longer

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 02:49 AM

actually you can get instacast bomb with zahadoll... 

 

yea ..

 

but need to proc it


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