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#1 delesh

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:27 AM

so what should i start hunting down for items i am going solo most no gfist only combo skills and no woe in mind


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Posted 04 October 2017 - 07:45 PM

I would start looking for a garment, get rid of panties set, even with a nice flee you still gonna get hit sometimes.. i would invest in a +9 baby orc (+15 reduction dmg +15 flee), there is other options like +9 nine tails or if you’re short of zeny a whisper card.
+9 shoes with firelock card due to hp/sp and STR bonus
Elemental mace or if u can +7-9 stunner with hydras (with endow for max dmg output)
Armor i would wait for porcelios card (+25 atack, coming with Einbroch update)
Headgear ghost bandana/marionette/whisper mask (the last one only if you can’t afford robo eyes)
Mid robo eyes
Acessories kobold or kukri depending on your needs
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#3 SemBadTriip

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 02:20 AM

A good weapon option would also be a Berserk [1] Refined with Zipper card, if you have Iron First lvl 10 so you can take advantage of both the skill atk bonus and the refined upper lvl 4 weapon atk plus the bonus of 12 % aspd that the weapon warrants.
 
With this blend of renew system, it is more worth having a high base atk than damage card slots.

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 08:05 AM

 

A good weapon option would also be a Berserk [1] Refined with Zipper card, if you have Iron First lvl 10 so you can take advantage of both the skill atk bonus and the refined upper lvl 4 weapon atk plus the bonus of 12 % aspd that the weapon warrants.
 
With this blend of renew system, it is more worth having a high base atk than damage card slots.

 

 

Maces are WAY better, better damage, no size penalization on medium/large and you lose only ~1 ASPD in comparison to fist weapons.


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 09:04 AM

Maces are WAY better, better damage, no size penalization on medium/large and you lose only ~1 ASPD in comparison to fist weapons.

 

In this system of renewal not always, as I said before the atk won by Beserk [1] (lvl 4 weapon) + iron first ability can in some cases overcome the damage of a mace type weapon, please search before asserting.

 

Test done against the Anolian monster, just by changing the weapon:

 

+7 Stunner [2] (Zipper Card x2)

 

Spoiler

 

+7 Beserk [1] (Zipper Card x1)

 

Spoiler

 

Font: http://calc.irowiki.org

 

Notes: Even if you change the two zipper cards in Stunner [2] by damage cards%, the atk is still less than that of the raider. 

Notes 2: The calculator used differs little from the actual server damage.


Edited by SemBadTriip, 05 October 2017 - 09:05 AM.

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#6 iDeco

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 09:06 AM

In this system of renewal not always, as I said before the atk won by Beserk [1] (lvl 4 weapon) + iron first ability can in some cases overcome the damage of a mace type weapon, please search before asserting.

 

Test done against the Anolian monster, just by changing the weapon:

 

+7 Stunner [2] (Zipper Card x2)

 

Spoiler

 

+7 Beserk [1] (Zipper Card x1)

 

Spoiler

 

Font: http://calc.irowiki.org

 

Notes: Even if you change the two zipper cards in Stunner [2] by damage cards%, the atk is still less than that of the raider. 

Notes 2: The calculator used differs little from the actual server damage.

and with 8x str and 4x dex, for exemple, any difference? Still better? Just to know anw.


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#7 SemBadTriip

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 09:08 AM

and with 8x str and 4x dex, for exemple, any difference? Still better? Just to know anw.

 

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#8 iDeco

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 09:29 AM

yes, was a stupid question hahahaha, sorry about that

 

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:32 PM

do we even have bersek in this server, isn't it a drop of the lhz HP?


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:47 PM

do we even have bersek in this server, isn't it a drop of the lhz HP?

 

from old purple box i guess.. i saw one in regial


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#11 iDeco

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 05:40 PM

So many items off ep here, omg


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Posted 06 October 2017 - 06:25 AM

In this system of renewal not always, as I said before the atk won by Beserk [1] (lvl 4 weapon) + iron first ability can in some cases overcome the damage of a mace type weapon, please search before asserting.

 

Test done against the Anolian monster, just by changing the weapon:

 

+7 Stunner [2] (Zipper Card x2)

 

Spoiler

 

+7 Beserk [1] (Zipper Card x1)

 

Spoiler

 

Font: http://calc.irowiki.org

 

Notes: Even if you change the two zipper cards in Stunner [2] by damage cards%, the atk is still less than that of the raider. 

Notes 2: The calculator used differs little from the actual server damage.

 

That's some next level misinformation you are spreading buddy. Why are you looking at "dps" of raging trifecta blow, which isn't even calculated correctly on the calc outside of the "basic attack" section. Comparing a Stunner to a bio lab weapon that isn't even in the game yet. Why the hell would you even have level 10 Trifecta...are you a bot?

 

80str / 80agi / 44 dex on Goat or whatever you want to fight for that matter w/ neutral damage. +7 stunner vs +6 berserk (+7 berserk is still lower than +7 stunner)

 

2x Zipper Stunner:

1453 dps sustained (964 avg Trifecta 25%)

1992 avg quad

2714 avg raging 

 

1x size% 1x 20% Stunner:

1565 dps sustained (1036 avg Trifecta 25%)

2136 avg quad

2910 avg raging

 

1x Zipper Berserk:

1372 dps sustained (833 avg Trifecta 25%)

1728 avg quad

2360 avg raging

 

Not enough difference w/ 20% card for Berserk to justify calculating it. Difference is even more staggering when you factor in Endows. It has been well established for a long time now that Knuckles are underwhelming and not worth the 5 extra skill points required to bring them up to a level that still under performs compared to a Stunner. It's actually so bad that a +7 Stunner[0] bought from the NPC is only slightly out-dps'd by a 1x carded +6 Berserk while potentially being favored due to larger individual hits and combo damage.

 

+7 Stunner[0]:

1290 dps sustained (861 avg Trifecta 25%)

1784 avg quad

2434 avg raging

 

Not to mention knuckles have a horrendous size penalty. Stunner also allows you to benefit from partying with Battlesmiths who can share their buffs with you. The only time Knuckle can compete is on small monsters. Nobody is fighting small monsters at high levels.


Edited by 6281170818170615897, 06 October 2017 - 02:02 PM.

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