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[Zeond]

I have an IB RK and I have been thinking about the true seyren windsor card. I don't know what sword would be best to put it in? Also, does it work with more then one true seyren windsor card? If it's good then I would get more.

[NekoCaptainNoob]

+10 or higher  Red Twin Edge ?

 

1. It's have 3 slots  (3x True Seyren =  180% IB dmg) 

2. Lv.4 weapon

3. Fire Element that's increase IB dmg    no need to endowing your weapon with fire converter 

4. One handed  so you can wear a shield  

5. Other class can use it too    especially Shadow Chaser  who can copy IB for leveling

 

BTW it's will cost a lot because of you need  3x True Seyren on it.....

 

 

Edited by NekoCaptainNoob, 18 August 2018 - 07:30 AM.

[RaveMaster]

Definitely +10 Red Twin Edge

[ChaoticRK]

I will wait for a 4 slot level 4 2 handed sword.

[MintRoyale]

I will wait for a 4 slot level 4 2 handed sword.

 

Didn't know one exists?
 

[Boyeteers]

Is a 4 slot weapon better than 2 slotted lindy hop?

[Ashuckel]

no

[jiggity]

How about the two handed Zephyrus Spear[3] to avoid size penalty when mounted? I don't see the point of a shield when you can 1 shot kill.

[DataDrain]

How about the two handed Zephyrus Spear[3] to avoid size penalty when mounted? I don't see the point of a shield when you can 1 shot kill.

 

If you're limiting the usage of true seyren card IB boost effect to RK class alone then Zephyrus is better with the reason as you've stated above when riding dragon and maxed out dragon training skill.

 

If you're multiclasses player and desires better reselling value then you should go for RTE / BTE because Shadow chaser could benefits from the sword as well by copying IB, unless shadow chaser would be able to wield spear and two-hand spear weapon in the near future
 

[Ashuckel]

If you are using the bio5 hat, Lindy Hop would still be far superior, heck even VF would be.

[jiggity]

I only ask cause i actually have a +13 Zephy i made for fun during last refine event and I don't think I'd want to limit Lindy Hop for IB usage only. Violet Fear seems great for large mobs though.

[ChaoticRK]

Well, you can get another lindy and IB > most RK skill if you got the rune circ and the cards. You did not limit your lindy to IB because there is no other card that is useful atm.

[markopolong]

Sorry im noob with math. But can you tell me

+10 RTE 3x true seyren VS +10 VF 2x true seyren

Which 1 is more damage and by how many % roughly?

[Ashuckel]

being very simplistic in the damage calculations, VF will win in most cases. RTE has the added benefit of enabling a shield and being used by other classes.

[markopolong]

Oww thanks Ash. I think that is good enough to hear. I ll go for VF i think. Can adjust my playstyle with no shield

[Penguins]

How does Valk Hammer compare to Lindy Hop and RTE?

[blackCROSSCY]

very crappy unless you decide not to use old rune circlet for some weird reason.

Base weapon atk is a big deal when you have very high str like RK. With 200 STR (super easy to hit on rk), valk knife only has 50 base plus another 50 from the str bonus.

This is compared to Lindy hop with 340+ 340 = 680, or 320 on RTE and 300 on Gelerdria. The huge amount of damage way exceeds one bonus card (60%) from valk knife/hammer that you even need to pay for. This is especially the case when you already have +120% from a +12 ORC.

Anyways, i think the best choices of weapon for seyren is only these for now:
1. lindy hop (strongest but imo a waste for str rk since you cannot pair it with hundred spears)
2. Gelerdria[3]. My preferred choice since it’s a spear with 3 slot and lv4.
3. RTE. Good base dmg and one handed but can’t use hundred spears. Also suffers from size penalty against large monsters, which a lot of MVPs are.
4. Poison spear[3]. The new spear from 16.2 that’s supposedly kRO true seyren card choice, but we have gelerdria for easy replacement for this weapon. I would prefer gelerdria over this since storm stone + gelerdria has multiple huge bonuses.

Edited by blackCROSSCY, 21 June 2018 - 09:18 PM.

[heickelrrx]

If Only we have a High atk 2 slot spear that were holy element

 

[blackCROSSCY]

There’s only long horn and crimson spear if you want holy. Unless they decide to make a 3 slot brionac for OCP

[FangSkin]

very crappy unless you decide not to use old rune circlet for some weird reason.

Base weapon atk is a big deal when you have very high str like RK. With 200 STR (super easy to hit on rk), valk knife only has 50 base plus another 50 from the str bonus.

This is compared to Lindy hop with 340+ 340 = 680, or 320 on RTE and 300 on Gelerdria. The huge amount of damage way exceeds one bonus card (60%) from valk knife/hammer that you even need to pay for. This is especially the case when you already have +120% from a +12 ORC.

Anyways, i think the best choices of weapon for seyren is only these for now:
1. lindy hop (strongest but imo a waste for str rk since you cannot pair it with hundred spears)
2. Gelerdria[3]. My preferred choice since it’s a spear with 3 slot and lv4.
3. RTE. Good base dmg and one handed but can’t use hundred spears. Also suffers from size penalty against large monsters, which a lot of MVPs are.
4. Poison spear[3]. The new spear from 16.2 that’s supposedly kRO true seyren card choice, but we have gelerdria for easy replacement for this weapon. I would prefer gelerdria over this since storm stone + gelerdria has multiple huge bonuses.

 

Hey blackcross just wanted to add my own question regarding the same topic here since I didnt want to make a new thread. Currently I hav a +12 TENS Red FightingSpirit6 and already own 2x True syren cards. I plan to get 1 more and use 3x syren cards on my red tens. My purpose is for pvp/woe rather than mvping on this IB type RK. Someone suggested that i get a +14 Glorious Spear for pvp/woe. I thought that was a good idea too but will fall short on damage for the newly introduced Doram Classes(Brute). My question is this. Will the +14 G Spear(assuming I make one. Currently own +10) actually do higher damage than the above mentioned TENS red to Demi Humans? From what I Understand going HAM on demi human modifier gives diminishing returns in final damage but increasing IB dmg in particular with the true seyren cards give a flat final damage boost. Lets Assume only demi human enemies for now. So thats +195% increased damage to demi human race modifier vs 3x seyren(+180% IB damage). Which would actually do more FINAL damage? Thanks in Advance for all your insights \m/

[powerhausman]

^that's very easy 

 

seyren for IB dmg is always the best

 

gspear for all patk related skills

 

now if you plant to use your seyrens for bio5 or any mvps, i'll definitely go gelerdria

[FangSkin]

^that's very easy 

 

seyren for IB dmg is always the best

 

gspear for all patk related skills

 

now if you plant to use your seyrens for bio5 or any mvps, i'll definitely go gelerdria

 

Correct me if im wrong. Your saying that 3x True RK's 180% damage boost is better than 195% Demi Human damage boost specifically for the skill 'IGNITION BREAK' but for any other Physical Attack such as Melee auto attack or Wind Cutter or Hundred Spears(I know I cant do HS with tens but just for clarification) the +14 G Spear is better. My doubt with regard to this is Isnt IGNITION BREAK a PHYSICAL Attack too? In that Case shouldnt the +195% demi still be stronger for IB since it too is a physical attack? Thanks for clarification. Cheers \m/

[Ashuckel]

race% only affects your weapon atk, equipment atk, buff atk and consumable atk.

Skill% includes all above and status atk+mastery atk.

[FangSkin]

race% only affects your weapon atk, equipment atk, buff atk and consumable atk.

Skill% includes all above and status atk+mastery atk.

 

Thanks for the response. That cleared my doubt \m/