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#1 Realbeast

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 07:52 AM

is it worth to get zipper even with the SP drain? and correct me if im wrong but its 1sp per mob hit, not per bowling bash right? e.g 1 Bowling bash on 10mobs = 10sp drain per zipper bear card.


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:14 AM

It's as you Say, consider your economy, if you have easy access to woe pots or other sp recovery items then go for zipper, if not go for andre, but i'll Say hydra is better Even for daily needs as you can kill bathory, high orc,merman, raydric, anubis, players, kobold, ak, Alice (aliza in the future) and some other stuff
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Posted 09 October 2017 - 10:43 AM

it drains 1sp per hit per monster, since BB deals 2 hits, in 10 monsters you drain 20 sp per use per card.


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 04:28 PM

it drains 1sp per hit per monster, since BB deals 2 hits, in 10 monsters you drain 20 sp per use per card.

 

I actually went and tested it against some porings and only drained 1sp for each monster hit with bowling bash. Maybe because the low hp of the targets only the first hit of BB counted for sp reduction even if the animation portrayed 2 hits connecting. I´ll test later if this is the case with a higher lvl mob


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#5 Realbeast

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 07:16 PM

thanks for the response guys! i think i might go with zipper as a first claymore so i can use it in all scenarios, definitely gonna get a 2x bloody claymore when i get more zeny.  :p_omg:


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 08:20 PM

Updating with discoveries.

 

Bowling Bash + Zipper Bear Behavior

 

Each Zipper Bear card will drain 1 SP for each succesful hit. As Bowling bash its a 2-hit skill it will drain 2 sp per use multiplied by the number of monsters the skill has succesfully landed on.

 

However, if the first hit of Bowling Bash manages to kill the monster, the second hit will not count as "landed" and thus Zipper Bear Card will not drain 1SP, even if the animation of the damage marks it as succesful

 

Example:

 

BB with Double diligent claymore vs 10 raydric. 5 raydric die with the first blow and 5 survive or are killed with the second blow

 

5 raydric x 1hit ko= 5sp x 2 =10 SP

5 raydric x 2 hit = 10sp x 2 =20 SP

 

Total SP consumption = 10sp+20sp+22sp(skill)= 52 SP

 

Thats a lot of SP for a Knight lol. better be carefull with that weapon


Edited by Lan2007, 09 October 2017 - 08:22 PM.

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