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#1 walkingdoods

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:33 AM

hi lets talk about or have a little informative about this types of weapons.

say i have a level 2 weapon with a slot of [1] have an ATK of 180atk or any means of slot.

vs.

a level 4 weapon with no slot but ATK example 200atk.

damage report (skill and normal) better which is?

Edited by walkingdoods, 12 October 2017 - 03:33 AM.

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#2 walkingdoods

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:35 AM

the question is., important level of the weapon,?
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:50 AM

Ofcourse, the level 4 is better because,

1. There is no level 2 weapon with 1 slot and 180 atk
2. There is no level 4 weapon with no slot with 200 atk

Still the upgrade is the most important with the weapons, it's attack and the cards inside.

Unless we are talking about DB RK or DD GXes.
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#4 walkingdoods

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:56 AM

Ofcourse, the level 4 is better because,

1. There is no level 2 weapon with 1 slot and 180 atk
2. There is no level 4 weapon with no slot with 200 atk

Still the upgrade is the most important with the weapons, it's attack and the cards inside.

Unless we are talking about DB RK or DD GXes.


oh i see i have lack of information in my post.
actually i am comparing a shotgun damage with slug shots

black rose[1] - 180atk level 2 weapon
vs
gatekeeperDD[0] - 200atk level 4 weapon
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:30 AM

Krasnaya [3] weapon lvl 2 200atk
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:39 PM

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:43 PM

oh i see i have lack of information in my post.
actually i am comparing a shotgun damage with slug shots

black rose[1] - 180atk level 2 weapon
vs
gatekeeperDD[0] - 200atk level 4 weapon

 

Refine plays a big role here. Base atk variance is also influenced by weapon level, but let's put that aside as it's as much a negative as it is a positive. Also, other gear plays a role here -- but for the following example, let's pretend the character is completely naked other than for the weapon. 

 

A level 2 weapon gets only +3 atk per refine up to +6, and +3~5 after that. If you refined the weapon to +9, you'd get a total of 27~33 atk from refinement.

 

A level 4 weapon gets +7 atk per refine up to +4, and +7~14 after that. If you refined the weapon to +9, you'd get a total of 63~98 atk from refinement. 

 

So if you plan to only refine them to the safe limit, the level 2 weapon is going to give you more damage if you slot it with a card.

 

If you plan to refine it beyond the safe limit, the level 4 weapon can surpass whatever bonus the card gives you depending on the refine.

 

Unfortunately, such examples are rarely useful because the reality is you'll probably have other gear that gives you atk, atk%, ranged atk%, etc that will influence which one is 'better' -- and with ranged weapons specifically, since your status atk matters more. 

 

edit: because of how many variables go into the final damage calculation, it's often better to just use a calc to test damage. 


Edited by mildcontempt, 12 October 2017 - 12:50 PM.

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