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#26 CadburyChocolate

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:49 PM

forautocasting part, how much is that X% casting?


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:51 PM

evil spirit glove + enchants + celine brooch + 2 pcs GS card = +3 aspd + minimum of 90 atk. i think that already exceeded  2 bako


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:54 PM

evil spirit glove + enchants + celine brooch + 2 pcs GS card = +3 aspd + minimum of 90 atk. i think that already exceeded  2 bako

For the aspd part, depends...


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:56 PM

forautocasting part, how much is that X% casting?

 

No idea, it was supposed to be filled in by WP but wasn't, it is essentially the crux of whether or not it should replace Magical Rings for auto cast sorc. However I didn't get one from boxes, and not ever gonna pay more than 500m so hopefully someone else can show case it :D

 

evil spirit glove + enchants + celine brooch + 2 pcs GS card = +3 aspd + minimum of 90 atk. i think that already exceeded  2 bako

 

Depends on the conditions, it is meh for Ranger, MAYBE at a pinch good for RC GX, but that's where the buck ends. 20% ASPD can be better than 3 solid ASPD depending on the build, the same can be said for 90 EATK versus 14% ATK.


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#30 fenrir99

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:02 PM

The shield is really good as well. RIP MBS?


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:10 PM

Anemos is the best shield for shield spell, on all fronts (15mdef, p good). 

 

Good offensive shield in general I guess. 


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:11 PM

Depends on the conditions, it is meh for Ranger, MAYBE at a pinch good for RC GX, but that's where the buck ends. 20% ASPD can be better than 3 solid ASPD depending on the build, the same can be said for 90 EATK versus 14% ATK.

 

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:15 PM

Set Bonuses don't stack only apply once.


Temporal dex boots is your friend.
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:18 PM

Temporal dex boots is your friend.

 

50% Fixed Cast Reduction + Temp Dex for say Acid Bomb which has a 1 second fixed cast time will result in 0.25sec cast time, same as Sacra buff, so immediately the fixed cast time reduction is niche.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:30 PM

That 40% Matk on boss type seems like it'd be a top contender for best in slot even for warlocks, right? With the exceptions being if the boss has high Mdef, or an old magic stone hat with a good magic enchant.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:34 PM

That 40% Matk on boss type seems like it'd be a top contender for best in slot even for warlocks, right? With the exceptions being if the boss has high Mdef, or an old magic stone hat with a good magic enchant.

 

50%* and it depends on how much existing ATK% you have and the setup of your gear. Boss % is the same as Atk%, just one only is active for bosses.

 

And for warlocks, they have access to the OBMH, so it depends, if you roll magician's glove + poro combo, then absolutely best in slot, however it means you are stuck with a La'cryma for a weapon, which is EH because it is level 3 and has a rather low base magic attack.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:41 PM

And there's the other problem with the La'Cryma + Poro Combo, not getting to use Dex Boots. Good for Soul Expansion I suppose, but little else.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:43 PM

And there's the other problem with the La'Cryma + Poro Combo, not getting to use Dex Boots. Good for Soul Expansion I suppose, but little else.

 

At least 4 people now have sold a brooch for 1b or more, and me personally I have been able to clear off some HTF loots to the sum of 1b thanks to the hype of this item.

 

It's neat, and I can't wait to see what it can do for an auto cast sorc, but beyond that, Ash and I already collectively did the math, and it is only really good for some realllllllllllllllllllllllly niche cases, and it certainly isn't worth the current price tag.

 

Fairy Leaf Powder on the other hand is best in slot for DB RK and Aimed Bolt Rangers, but is worth 1/10 of the price thanks to OCP rates. It really is an interesting box.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:46 PM

At least 4 people now have sold a brooch for 1b or more, and me personally I have been able to clear off some HTF loots to the sum of 1b thanks to the hype of this item.

 

It's neat, and I can't wait to see what it can do for an auto cast sorc, but beyond that, Ash and I already collectively did the math, and it is only really good for some realllllllllllllllllllllllly niche cases, and it certainly isn't worth the current price tag.

 

Fairy Leaf Powder on the other hand is best in slot for DB RK and Aimed Bolt Rangers, but is worth 1/10 of the price thanks to OCP rates. It really is an interesting box.

Aye the Fairy Leaf does look interesting. I'm still not clear on how the combo bonus applies though, basically in no situation ever will the combo bonus apply twice from 2 Fair Leaf Powders?


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:48 PM

Aye the Fairy Leaf does look interesting. I'm still not clear on how the combo bonus applies though, basically in no situation ever will the combo bonus apply twice from 2 Fair Leaf Powders?

 

Same as all the others with similar combos, if you have an item equipped with that particular enchant the set bonus actives. Set bonuses active only once.

 

So the current ideas are as follows:

 

1x Sarah Earring EA1/EA2 + FLP

 

or

 

2x FLP + FAW EA1/EA2/EA4

 

The latter combo does more by a small amount, and you can technically at that point swap out 1x FLP for a meg if you are using a Gene.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:10 PM

1) FLP + SE EA1/2 + FAW EA4/3/3 = 15% aftercast delay reduction and 43% ranged damage increase

 

2) FLP + FLP + FAW EA4/2/1 = 20% aftercast delay reduction and 38% ranged damage increase

 

Option 2 also offers an extra card slot


Edited by yauhoilun, 12 October 2017 - 06:12 PM.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:13 PM

Guys is this clergy better than old mitra?
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:16 PM

1) FLP + SE EA1/2 + FAW EA4/3/3 = 15% aftercast delay reduction and 43% ranged damage increase

 

2) FLP + FLP + FAW EA4/2/1 = 20% aftercast delay reduction and 38% ranged damage increase

 

So option 1 is more ranged damage but option 2 is more aftercast delay reduction?

 

Pretty much.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:21 PM

Well if you need that extra 5% cast delay reduction, then def go for option 2. I just don't want to reset all my perfect faws :|


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:28 PM

The rate on clergy is a lot lower aswell only got 2 out of 86 boxes
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:28 PM

1) FLP + SE EA1/2 + FAW EA4/3/3 = 15% aftercast delay reduction and 43% ranged damage increase

2) FLP + FLP + FAW EA4/2/1 = 20% aftercast delay reduction and 38% ranged damage increase

Option 2 also offers an extra card slot

Wow didn’t know that it stacks with garment. Does it stack with weapon as well? I’m tempted to reset mine.

Also wouldn’t SE + FLP + FAW EA4/2/1 be the BiS?

Edited by DieNasty, 12 October 2017 - 06:30 PM.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:36 PM

Wow didn’t know that it stacks with garment. Does it stack with weapon as well? I’m tempted to reset mine.

Also wouldn’t SE + FLP + FAW EA4/2/1 be the BiS?

 

1. You'd lose a lot more Ranged Damage boost if you get the EA enchant set on your weapons.

 

2. Depends. If you want more After-cast delay reduction, yes.

 

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#48 yauhoilun

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:37 PM

No the EA bonus applies once only

 

 


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:39 PM

Wow didn’t know that it stacks with garment. Does it stack with weapon as well? I’m tempted to reset mine.

Also wouldn’t SE + FLP + FAW EA4/2/1 be the BiS?

 

well you cant get ea1/2 from weapon only (malangdo only started from ea2) you either get ea1/2 from SE or FAW. 

 

i'll go with SE since i;m sharing that faw with other char :v


Edited by folkvangr, 12 October 2017 - 06:40 PM.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:42 PM

No the EA bonus applies once only


That explained a lot. Thank you.
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