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#1 itzik27

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:24 AM

as title says.

its nice exp and all but it gets worse and worse with time, lvls and each entery.

its boring as ********, only 1 person actually has to be fully active- the builder, the opener can semi afk and the other 2 can afk through the intire run.

it also takes really long- toward the end specially.

 

iam not saying remove f7 but in my opinion it should be something that has more activity.

this f7 thing must turn off alot ppl.

 

hope for civil discussion.

 


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#2 nighty007

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:38 AM

Uhm.. Expert?


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:39 AM

Uhm.. Expert?

 

what?


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:48 AM

Aram, Vendurous Forest and a few other Dungeon got an Expert mode, you get WAY more exp in less time (10-15 mins)  and the best would be to run it Solo.
On lvl 85 i need around 1 hour per Level just with Expert, the Boss gives alot exp but the mops are way tankier

You was looking for something with more activity, expert is pretty good for that.


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:48 AM

what?

 

We are offering so-called "Expert Mode Dungeons". Also there are 3 types of Daily quests which give more EXP than in the past. But the "Expert Mode Dungeons" are - besides F7 - the fastest and less boring levelling possibility nowadays.

 

For info refer to:

https://forums.warpp...adia-episode-2/

 

Edit: @nighty007, you were faster  :p_laugh:    Rubber Glove Hats must give you that power!  :heh:


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#6 itzik27

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 03:37 AM

ohh ic, didnt know expert exists. iam at vr still.

thanks.

any guides on how to build there?


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 05:41 AM

:P_smile:For me, F7 is the funniest part in this game.


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 06:14 AM

I would recommend you to Farm with F7 until around lvl 63~
Before this i think F7 is better

I'm using the same build for VR and FV
1 Fire, 1 Ice, 3 Black Holes, 9 Thunder tower
I dont know where, but somewhere in the forum was a F7 Guide as well for every F7

 

 

 

 

 


Edit: @nighty007, you were faster  :p_laugh:    Rubber Glove Hats must give you that power!  :heh:

 

They do, farmed one Hat for every Char :p_laugh:


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 11:51 AM

I would recommend you to Farm with F7 until around lvl 63~
Before this i think F7 is better

I'm using the same build for VR and FV
1 Fire, 1 Ice, 3 Black Holes, 9 Thunder tower
I dont know where, but somewhere in the forum was a F7 Guide as well for every F7

 

 

 

 

 

 

They do, farmed one Hat for every Char :p_laugh:

 

how strong do i have to be as invoker to clear it?


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 01:26 PM

Imo I don't think F7 was a bad concept, it's just the way it was implemented that really sucks.
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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:31 PM

how strong do i have to be as invoker to clear it?

 

Uhm.. do you mean expert or f7?
F7 should be easy, the bombs even more because of your many basic hits.

Expert hm.. with Sorcerer (My mainrole) it's very easy but for Invoker i dont know, i guess it's fine depending which expert you are going to do and how much attackspeed you have.
I would recommend you to go Venderous Forest because i did tons of Expert runs in different expert dungeons and overall i think thats the best dungeon to level, i need 6:30 per run but usually people need around 10 mins. Could be pretty difficult for someone who isn't experienced in it but you can give it a try.
Just mention here, i as Lv. 85 get around 25% only in a 45 min F7 run (didnt played F7 for so long im not even sure anymore how much exp it gives)
And in the same time in 45 Minutes im doing around a whole Level because i get like 20-25% per 6:30 min run. (You or others prob need more time)

Oh yeah, the bosses giving the most EXP in expert so dont be scared if you only get a "little" exp by the monsters. And ofc im using everything (Biscuit, EXP Device, Homebuff, 10 Min EXP Potion)


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 12:53 PM

Hi, i also fret about people who afk in the F7. Then why not use auto kick during F7? ( Auto kick : if someone dont attack in 10mins, he/she will kick out the area and party by system.) But there is a bug in F7. ( The bug is that if someone`s internet is not smooth, this will cause he/she dc and no F7 mobs come out.) Maybe GM of dragon saga solve this bug and put the auto kick in F7?  :hmm:


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:24 PM

Uhm.. do you mean expert or f7?
F7 should be easy, the bombs even more because of your many basic hits.

Expert hm.. with Sorcerer (My mainrole) it's very easy but for Invoker i dont know, i guess it's fine depending which expert you are going to do and how much attackspeed you have.
I would recommend you to go Venderous Forest because i did tons of Expert runs in different expert dungeons and overall i think thats the best dungeon to level, i need 6:30 per run but usually people need around 10 mins. Could be pretty difficult for someone who isn't experienced in it but you can give it a try.
Just mention here, i as Lv. 85 get around 25% only in a 45 min F7 run (didnt played F7 for so long im not even sure anymore how much exp it gives)
And in the same time in 45 Minutes im doing around a whole Level because i get like 20-25% per 6:30 min run. (You or others prob need more time)

Oh yeah, the bosses giving the most EXP in expert so dont be scared if you only get a "little" exp by the monsters. And ofc im using everything (Biscuit, EXP Device, Homebuff, 10 Min EXP Potion)

 

Which expert dungeon do you go? I testet some expert mode dungeons and am thinking that the fastest dungeon to clear is lvl 30 underground graveyard. But as for the exp, i am wondering how you get 1 level per hour? In lvl 30 underground graveyard i get about 4% per run (~15 minutes) without any exp boos. That would be 16% in an hour and i can´t imagine that the exp tools you mentioned gives the remaining 84% to reach 1 level in an hour.

 

Am i doing something wrong?

 

As for the F7, i can remember times when the max level was 60 and you needed to stay in the boss room for 2 hours to grind exp. So F7 isn´t bad, it just gives every class the opportunity of afk leveling not just certain classes (invokers were able to almost afk at owls boss room).


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 03:09 PM

F7 didn't kill the game imo. Back in the days, anyone would rather pass 20 hours in F7 for 15 levels than hundreds of hours in F1 or F6 to reach the highest levels.
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Posted 31 October 2017 - 05:05 AM

I mean now you can f7 to idk which level and go and do Expert mode dungeons. And i am having much more fun while doing it :). So i am good now :D. I am not complaining about today, but i would still like to see f7 dying a damn slow death xD. But i guess that will never happen xD. I mean they gave us other people atlest a different level methode and i am appreciating that really much :D.


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Posted 31 October 2017 - 07:12 AM

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 03:50 PM

Which expert dungeon do you go? I testet some expert mode dungeons and am thinking that the fastest dungeon to clear is lvl 30 underground graveyard. But as for the exp, i am wondering how you get 1 level per hour? In lvl 30 underground graveyard i get about 4% per run (~15 minutes) without any exp boos. That would be 16% in an hour and i can´t imagine that the exp tools you mentioned gives the remaining 84% to reach 1 level in an hour.

 

Am i doing something wrong?

 

As for the F7, i can remember times when the max level was 60 and you needed to stay in the boss room for 2 hours to grind exp. So F7 isn´t bad, it just gives every class the opportunity of afk leveling not just certain classes (invokers were able to almost afk at owls boss room).

 

I did vendu forest at the time i wrote my first comment here, but right now i changed to Red fox and do 1 Level per 30 minutes, i already have 50 ExCo Points because i love to level and its very fast but you get the most damage in redforest by far.
Im using homebuff, exp device 8*, biscuit, 10 min potion and trying to keep the 1,5 combo the whole time in redfox and get around 40% per run. But it's pretty easy for sorc, i need around 8 min per round and some good high geared Invo's take around 16 min per round.
I dont really know what else to say, but expert is by far the fastest way to level and most fun thing in my opinion and

Btw back then in the really old times (near beta times) you had to level in the chaos world and you always just had 2 hours to level there, then the f4 bossroom leveling started and then f7 and now expert.


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Posted 02 November 2017 - 07:40 AM

Btw back then in the really old times (near beta times) you had to level in the chaos world and you always just had 2 hours to level there, then the f4 bossroom leveling started and then f7 and now expert.

 

 

Yes you are totally right, but to be honest the funniest thing to do was f4 bossroom leveling. I mean you had a group to communicate with, you needed specific classes to do that. I mean you actually needed a damn monk back than for HEALING ! They where damn healer back than, how its supposed to be ! Idk man i would love to see f4 bossroom leveling back in the game, it would bring back so much more varieties to the game,strategic, community and the classes himself. Such a damn shame they shutted it down with the 20 minute max mark.

 

Well lets see what well get as next level opportunity ;). Questing xD ? LuL

 

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