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[Vossel]

In this topic i just wanna say thank you for the things that changed since arcadia Part 2.

To be honest i wasnt really sure if part 2 would actually make a real change to the game and was kinda mad because of the in my opinion low attackspeed caps, but you have proofen that you still think about the game balance and made those amplifier and skill changes.

Also is it nice to see actuall changes like the new ExCo system which gives us evidence that the game can become really good sometime in the future.

So i just wanted to say Thank you for the hard work and keep it up.

[TrustedMailbox]

Really Good work from the all staff and all who work for dragon saga which provided us with good gaming experience really so thank you for all of them.

[Agitodesu]

Same now I have stuff to do on all 10 classes that are endgame and actually play the game derp

[testg]

I have seen a big increase in bsq participation by new faces since heal nerf and death buffs removal. Hopefully many more good changes to come and issues addressed.

[Kristof3195]

I think aswell that the game is making big progress when I compare it to the time 4 years ago with basicly no hope of developement in sight doing the same stuff over and over again. 

[Fliederduft78]

Poppie you really are the worst coder I've ever met. But you are one of the best programmers I've ever seen.

 

Thanks for all the hours, days, weeks and months of hard work you have put into this game. Especially thank you for believing in a game at a time nobody else did and all people I knew simply called it dead.

 

After reading this:

 

Edit: True story. On gPotato I was the one telling the people to use the LAA tool and posted a link to it in the german and english forums and offered help. It has been "copied" all around the global

In the following topic: https://forums.warpp...-pls/?p=2713149

I want to give you personally a special thank you from all the people from the closed offic

ial German gpotato server (and especially forums) for helping with LAA, game close problems, all is pink problems and all the other technical help on there. We just want you to know that  nobody of us forgot your statement you once posted in the server closing topic on the old gpotato forums.  "If I just could get my hands on the code then I had the possibilty to change things for the better."

 

You kept your promise.

 

 

I want to give a thank you to both previous producers for helping to get the game back on track and to our new current producer for continuing this path. Thank you for all the hard work you put into this game and for keeping a game online (even with less players) while all other game servers world wide gave up on it and closed. I want to thank the CM team and all the CM's we had and the one we currently have (Dragonlark) for looking over the forums and doing the livestreams, events and all the community work you do. Lastly I want to say thank you to all the GM of the DS GM team for answering questions, dealing with player problems and helping people with their particular problems.

 

 

Edited by Fliederduft78, 15 October 2017 - 11:44 AM.

[Popcorn]

Thank you for your nice words. However since some people in the community are requesting me to be more "professional" I decided the following:

 

With starting the development officially in October 2015 my work as vmod has ended. I still did community work voluntarily because I was happy to be able to talk to the community. This is sadly no longer the case. I am no longer willing to continue the community work.

 

With this post I announce that I am no longer available on the forums for questions, discussions and suggestions.

If you have any concerns regarding the game or game development feel free to write to our CM or submit a ticket to our GM team. They will forward the necessary infos to me and tell you my answer to it where required. 

 

This is finally the professionalism you requested.

 

Finally no one else than Jeff Kaplan - the director of a very popular title from a very big company - couldn't have said it better. If you're interested in knowing what he said just read the quote in my signature.

 

[Precrush]

Thank you for your nice words. However since some people in the community are requesting me to be more "professional" I decided the following:

 

With starting the development officially in October 2015 my work as vmod has ended. I still did community work voluntarily because I was happy to be able to talk to the community. This is sadly no longer the case. I am no longer willing to continue the community work.

 

With this post I announce that I am no longer available on the forums for questions, discussions and suggestions.

If you have any concerns regarding the game or game development feel free to write to our CM or submit a ticket to our GM team. They will forward the necessary infos to me and tell you my answer to it where required. 

 

This is finally the professionalism you requested.

 

Finally no one else than Jeff Kaplan - the director of a very popular title from a very big company - couldn't have said it better. If you're interested in knowing what he said just read the quote in my signature.

So professional #5

 

Btw that Jeff Kaplan quote is total bogus. Here's why: People behave in a way x. You cannot change that by just hoping they'd behave in a way Y, it's a product of millions of years of evolution. If way X makes the game less enjoyable for other people, then developing things that make people behave in way Y is way more productive than new maps or w/e would be. So if by focusing on encouraging players to behave well you can improve the player experience, than that means huge progress on the development side. Simple logic.

Edited by Precrush, 18 October 2017 - 08:47 AM.

[Fliederduft78]

Bye Poppie, I honestly completely understand your decision to stop all community work on the forums. The overall atmosphere here recently changed a lot and turned into agressive behavior towards all staff members and even between players in simple player discussions. I wish you well. Keep up the good work you are doing!

Edited by Fliederduft78, 18 October 2017 - 12:02 AM.

[testg]

Bye Poppie, I honestly completely understand your decision to stop all community work on the forums. The overall atmosphere here recently changed a lot and turned into agressive behavior towards all staff members and even between players in simple player discussions. I wish you well. Keep up the good work you are doing!

The work is good, i cannot agree with all changes but it is constant evolving progress that has no end for majority of mmo games. So hats off to popcorn. But even though i agree what you said, that some player are angry towards each other or staff, it is simple to deject from the real issues- which is why? Also, because simply a player is angry there is no need to lose professionalism and strike back, as most would want to it is better to take the high road in such matters because you are able to set the tone of the company and its best interest.

I also cannot agree of avoiding forum altogether because of simple dispute, it is either this way or that way? No compromise? Well, that is not my decision. It may be better it may be worse.

[ReloAdesh]

 

Jeff Kaplan quote is total bogus. Here's why: People behave in a way x. You cannot change that by just hoping they'd behave in a way Y, it's a product of millions of years of evolution. If way X makes the game less enjoyable for other people, than developing things that make people behave in way Y is way more productive than new maps or w/e would be. So if by focusing on encouraging players to behave well you can improve the player experience, than that means huge progress on the development side. Simple logic.

 

Are you the one that made the steam video of opening 1500 x-mas boxes with creating new accounts over and over again? And are you the one who stated on this forum (IIRC) that the development team of a game has to prevent abuse? I think you was it.

And this is exactly what Mr. Kaplan is talking about - the development team needs to waste their time to create barricades for people like you to stop abuse. Time which could be used better. For example to increase the game experience. 

 

I think Mr. Kaplan knows what he is talking about. You don't have to agree but your statement is totally bogus.

Edited by ReloAdesh, 18 October 2017 - 07:48 AM.

[Precrush]

Are you the one that made the steam video of opening 1500 x-mas boxes with creating new accounts over and over again? And are you the one who stated on this forum (IIRC) that the development team of a game has to prevent abuse? I think you was it.

And this is exactly what Mr. Kaplan is talking about - the development team needs to waste their time to create barricades for people like you to stop abuse. Time which could be used better. For example to increase the game experience. 

 

I think Mr. Kaplan knows what he is talking about. You don't have to agree but your statement is totally bogus.

Think about that bit in bold. Why would making say a new map be better than improving the overall player experience for each and every single one of your players?

 

The big IM boxes are perhaps a bad example of the developers having to spend time preventing "abuse", because it's as simple as adding a few restrictions on one item and also because it wasn't very significant. What Kaplan is talking about there I imagine is things that actually take development time to prevent, for example cheating (duping, different hacks, macros etc.) and the general toxic behavior of people on the internet. I'll try to explain why he's wrong again:

 

Those things I mentioned above are given. think of them as constants of the games universe at this point. The same way you can't just wish away gravity so you could fly, you can't just wish a way certain player behavior. Now if by spending development time you can prevent cheating or improve player behavior in general to be more kind, that's the best thing for the game you can develop. 

 

Dragon Saga is a perfect example of this. The best, most influential and most important updates we have gotten and will ever get are ones that address certain player behavior:

1. Fixing the dupe glitch that has plagued the game since release.
2. Preventing the usage of various hacking/cheating software that made getting an unfair advantage unbelievably easy.
3. Addressing the gold seller surge we got after the game got up on steam with multiple changes.

I'm sure those took a long time to make and is probably why Popcorn has added that quote on his signature. But if he believes that's time he wasted he's wrong, it's the most important work he has done for this game. I'm sure Kaplan is a very good developer, but our server alone is proof why he's wrong in this particular case.

 

EDIT: Perhaps this sums it ups the best: it's never a choice between 1. A game with all time and money spend on game play updates and where no one behaves badly, or  2. A game where people behave badly and the devs have to address it.

 

Reality is always number 2.

Edited by Precrush, 18 October 2017 - 08:14 AM.

[sigeel]

So professional #5

 

Btw that Jeff Kaplan quote is total bogus. Here's why: People behave in a way x. You cannot change that by just hoping they'd behave in a way Y, it's a product of millions of years of evolution. If way X makes the game less enjoyable for other people, than developing things that make people behave in way Y is way more productive than new maps or w/e would be. So if by focusing on encouraging players to behave well you can improve the player experience, than that means huge progress on the development side. Simple logic.

 

I agree with this. 

 

plus you shouldn't take those comments personally, sometimes people behave in an aggressive way because they love and care about the game and the fact that they are sometimes angry should be count as a blessing because they care enough to keep talking about it.

They are passionate about what they love in the same way you mods are about creating.

 

I think the worst thing that can happen to any franchise is when people stop talking about it. That means they stopped caring. You will never be able to make everyone happy but I think its safe to say that a majority of us are and that is what is truly important.

 

Keep up the good work!

[7186170606141444160]

I want Popcorn back! #10 ... but.... #10 Good Luck!

[VinylDorayaki]

I want Popcorn back! #10 ... but.... #10 Good Luck!

 

Technically he's still here... xD

[Dynasto]

Thank you for your nice words. However since some people in the community are requesting me to be more "professional" I decided the following:

 

With starting the development officially in October 2015 my work as vmod has ended. I still did community work voluntarily because I was happy to be able to talk to the community. This is sadly no longer the case. I am no longer willing to continue the community work.

 

With this post I announce that I am no longer available on the forums for questions, discussions and suggestions.

If you have any concerns regarding the game or game development feel free to write to our CM or submit a ticket to our GM team. They will forward the necessary infos to me and tell you my answer to it where required. 

 

This is finally the professionalism you requested.

 

Finally no one else than Jeff Kaplan - the director of a very popular title from a very big company - couldn't have said it better. If you're interested in knowing what he said just read the quote in my signature.

 

Very sad to read... I always liked that you commented everything. Only a small hand of people "requested you to act professional". 

 

It would be more like this if you have just ignored this people. When I read the messages which lead to this result I got very mad on the community for that. You doing really good work and keeping this game alive and this also includes to talk the community as has always been the case.

 

I know that you are still reading forum posts but its not the same when its not commented by you

 

 

I think there are a lot more people who don't like this result (as people who like) and im not sure whether these people wanted this end of your forum work!

[blackph]

Very sad to read... I always liked that you commented everything. Only a small hand of people "requested you to act professional". 

 

It would be more like this if you have just ignored this people. When I read the messages which lead to this result I got very mad on the community for that. You doing really good work and keeping this game alive and this also includes to talk the community as has always been the case.

 

I know that you are still reading forum posts but its not the same when its not commented by you

 

 

I think there are a lot more people who don't like this result (as people who like) and im not sure whether these people wanted this end of your forum work!

 

Totally agree with you. There are some ppl with no rl just trollin Poppy for fun. But most players enjoy a developer who's reading and answering post of the community.

@Popcorn It would be nice to see you being active in this forum again . Just ignore hate comments, mindless comments or topics we already had