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Posted 04 December 2017 - 05:52 AM

Afaik pdodge cant dodge crit. Dunno if the crush strike is delivered when it crits, pdodge will not be ableto dodge it.

 

This one I know, the answer is yes even crit misses to 100PD as long as all is normal atk.


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 06:09 AM

perfect dodge is just a flat chance to negate any auto attack, regardless of the conditions of it(crit, double attack, etc).

To dodge any skill, you need the regular Flee stat.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 06:14 AM

is this official server or private server?

coz in that vid, crit pierces pdodge


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 06:22 AM

is this official server or private server?

coz in that vid, crit pierces pdodge

 

Its because if you watch it, the time the crit hits is when he removes his gear and the PD is lessthan 100.

 

You can see that wen its 103, no crit came through,...


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 06:26 AM

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is this official server or private server?
coz in that vid, crit pierces pdodge


You can see at 2:50 that when the ranger has 100 p. dodge the sinx just starts missing all


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 06:51 AM

it wont help you against monster crits btw
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 07:11 AM

ah yeah.

didnt notice the ranger is rearranging his setup.

 

and monster crit is considered a skill, coz monster doesnt have natural crit. but a skill that makes the hit crits.


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 07:12 AM

i had tested RT damage with various gatling guns in NCT with 161 level rebel- 

a. +13 probation g. gun slotted with AS card

b. +12 tempest

c. +14 minigun with double beholder card

 

Result seems suprising.. where

RT dmg best with minigun, followed by tempest, and lastly probation...

 

Meanwhile, comparing RT damage with +9 tempest vs +9 double beholder minigun +9, RT damage seems comparable.

 

I guess probation g gun is not that good if focus on round trip.. 


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 08:09 AM

how to get 75% ranged and 85% demi-human reduction ? o__o

 

let me test that with dragon tail. 

 

WoE Set, jRO gears, Imuke, Alligator,+12CEB, Demi human shadow gear and etc.

 

Dragon Tail is OK but Slug Shot is still the only way to kill someone using reductions 

 

P.S: My Rebellion was not using any jRO gear, using jRO gear you can probably reach more than 40k against the 75% ranged and 84% human reduct.

 

Afaik pdodge cant dodge crit. Dunno if the crush strike is delivered when it crits, pdodge will not be ableto dodge it.

 

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 08:12 AM

 

With the new update:

  • Any piece of equipment can be desocketed, including accessories and middle headgear. Lower headgear cannot be desocketed, just because..
  • Enchants, refine and cards are always preserved upon a successful attempt.
  • Chance of success is based on the ingredients used, there is chance to fail but nothing is lost in the process.
  • The New NPC will be taking Jeremy's job, Jeremy will bid us farewell.

 

This is not an event, it is an update to the existing desocket NPC.

 

 

ahh thanks


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 08:50 AM

WoE Set, jRO gears, Imuke, Alligator,+12CEB, Demi human shadow gear and etc.

Dragon Tail is OK but Slug Shot is still the only way to kill someone using reductions

P.S: My Rebellion was not using any jRO gear, using jRO gear you can probably reach more than 40k against the 75% ranged and 84% human reduct.


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How can you get 75% ranged reducts with 84% demihuman reducts?
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 08:51 AM

he just said what to use '-' ( and so did i)
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 10:03 AM

 

With the new update:

  • Any piece of equipment can be desocketed, including accessories and middle headgear. Lower headgear cannot be desocketed, just because..
  • Enchants, refine and cards are always preserved upon a successful attempt.
  • Chance of success is based on the ingredients used, there is chance to fail but nothing is lost in the process.
  • The New NPC will be taking Jeremy's job, Jeremy will bid us farewell.

 

This is not an event, it is an update to the existing desocket NPC.

 

I can't desocket lower headgear? *un-equips spare card* noone tells me how to live my life!

 


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 02:11 PM

is this official server or private server?

coz in that vid, crit pierces pdodge

 

P. dodge blocks/works on Crit. Having high P.dodge has been one way to counter Crit damage i.e. Crit EB but doesnt work well in WoE.


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 03:29 PM

i had tested RT damage with various gatling guns in NCT with 161 level rebel- 

a. +13 probation g. gun slotted with AS card

b. +12 tempest

c. +14 minigun with double beholder card

 

Result seems suprising.. where

RT dmg best with minigun, followed by tempest, and lastly probation...

 

Meanwhile, comparing RT damage with +9 tempest vs +9 double beholder minigun +9, RT damage seems comparable.

 

I guess probation g gun is not that good if focus on round trip.. 

 

i like your comparison, one is with AS card, other one is with 2x racial cards.

i dont even think you have the required skill to get extra 10% ranged atk.

but okayyyy


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 03:51 PM

i like your comparison, one is with AS card, other one is with 2x racial cards.

i dont even think you have the required skill to get extra 10% ranged atk.

but okayyyy

 

Yeah he didn't test it properly, we both know that a +7 Probation Gatling pretty much stomps the competition.


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 03:57 PM

Yeah he didn't test it properly, we both know that a +7 Probation Gatling pretty much stomps the competition.

 

What does your calculation say?

 

The comparison btw probation GG vs minigun makes a difference by 11K for RT on big bells. 

If by slotting beholder card on probation GG, what is the new dmg? will it still on par or even better vs minigun?


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 04:09 PM

What does your calculation say?

 

The comparison btw probation GG vs minigun makes a difference by 11K for RT on big bells. 

If by slotting beholder card on probation GG, what is the new dmg? will it still on par or even better vs minigun?

 

I have already ran calcs for two threads in the past 15 hours, people need to try and learn to try and do it themselves... however allow me to give a clue to the answer.

 

Multipliers dilute the higher the value gets.


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 08:06 PM

lmao 15 hours

 

poor Nirvanna , but thanks for everything you have done  :p_laugh:

its so helpful


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 08:31 PM

15 hours is equal to me watching whole season of walking dead
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 08:45 PM

15 hours is equal to me watching whole season of walking dead

 

The calcs only took 4 mins, it's just I have other things to do with my time and people could just use my existing calc links to find out an answer, just requires a couple of easy switcharoos but eh lazy is lazy.


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 09:24 PM

Yep, Glorious set is dead for years.

 

The max i was able to hit was 35k~40k (using some buffs) as far as i remember, against someone using a entire full reduction (75% ranged and 84% human).

 

Using Anti Material Blast i was able to one shot that target (69k HP and the reductions).

 

But it's kinda fun to see Slug Shot doing the large damage, gravity is lazy.

 

is anti material blast still a debuff?

 

or the reduction bypass only apply for the skill itself?


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 10:53 PM

Anti-Material Blast damage was like a half of old Dragon Tail with bonus -50% neutral resistance that only works if you are hitting with Neutral attacks, thinking it is similar with GX's Venom Impression that only works with Poison element attacks.

 

now Anti-Material Blast damage as strong as old Dragon Tail and the bonus is not neutral resistance anymore, but -50% Demi-Human resistance, so whatever your attack is, whatever the element is, as long as you are a demi-human, the debuff works.

 

it was working on Boss monsters as well, unfortunately it is not now, i can say what we have is Fixed version, only works on player. 

 

it even works with Anti-Material Blast itself, so an Anti-Material Blast that able to increase the next Anti-Material Blast damage.

Anti-Material Blastception  :heh:


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Posted 04 December 2017 - 11:08 PM

Anti-Material Blast damage was like a half of old Dragon Tail with bonus -50% neutral resistance that only works if you are hitting with Neutral attacks, thinking it is similar with GX's Venom Impression that only works with Poison element attacks.

 

now Anti-Material Blast damage as strong as old Dragon Tail and the bonus is not neutral resistance anymore, but -50% Demi-Human resistance, so whatever your attack is, whatever the element is, as long as you are a demi-human, the debuff works.

 

it was working on Boss monsters as well, unfortunately it is not now, i can say what we have is Fixed version, only works on player. 

 

it even works with Anti-Material Blast itself, so an Anti-Material Blast that able to increase the next Anti-Material Blast damage.

Anti-Material Blastception  :heh:

 

so basically still a 20s debuff at lvl5 that everyone can take advantage of.

 

would be a great tool for woe and pvp then

 

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 11:13 PM

yeah , that 50% works with everything . because it is lowering a resistance ,

the damage increase even does work gfist, goh, as, IB, DB , auto attack, etc i have tested almost all physical attacks .

 

and i bet magic attack works too. 


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