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#1 Nirvanna21

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 01:33 PM

Lis kept poking me about AB Ring so I would like to clarify a few things.

 

Cure Lv1(-3 second delay to High Heal)

Catholic Lv1 (Coluseo Heal sp cost -30)

Archbishop Lv1 (increase effect of healing skills by 3%)

 

That is pulled from the Mora Enchanting page.

 

Now for the jRO item itself. This will be the Google Translate edition because I need it to be made clear.

28430 → Ring of the Chief priest [1]
It was based on the cross
A beautiful ring.
Given a special role
With some things left by a leader
It is whispered.
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Luk + 2
Complete evasion + 5
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When using skills
Consumption SP - 5%
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[Heel],
[Sanctuary],
[Potion pitcher],
[Highness heel],
[Corseo heel]
When used, HP recovery amount + 15%
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[Heel],
[Sanctuary],
[Potion pitcher],
[Highness heel],
[Corseo heel]
HP recovery amount when received + 15%
Depending on some recovery items
HP recovery amount + 15%
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[Archbishop 1] and
When equipped together, additionally
Luk + 2, complete avoidance + 5
When using skills
Consumption SP - 5%
[Heel],
[Sanctuary],
[Potion pitcher],
[Highness heel],
[Corseo heel]
When using, HP recovery amount + 3%
[Highness heel]
Casting time - 100%
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[Archbishop 2] and
When equipped together, additionally
Luk + 2, complete avoidance + 5
When using skills
Consumption SP - 5%
[Heel],
[Sanctuary],
[Potion pitcher],
[Highness heel],
[Corseo heel]
When using, HP recovery amount + 3%
[Highness heel]
Reuse standby time - 1 second
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[Cathedral 1] and
When equipped together, additionally
Luk + 2, complete avoidance + 5
When using skills
Consumption SP - 5%
[Heel],
[Sanctuary],
[Potion pitcher],
[Highness heel],
[Corseo heel]
When using, HP recovery amount + 3%
[Corseofiru]
Casting time - 100%
[Corseofiru]
Consumption SP - 20
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[Healing 1] and
When equipped together, additionally
Luk + 2, complete avoidance + 5
When using skills
Consumption SP - 5%
[Heel],
[Sanctuary],
[Potion pitcher],
[Highness heel],
[Corseo heel]
When using, HP recovery amount + 3%
[Epicoresis]
Reuse wait time - 10 seconds
[Epicoresis]
Consumption SP - 100
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Series: ^ 777777 Accessories ^ 000000
Defense: ^ 7777770 ^ 000000
Weight: ^ 77777740 ^ 000000
Required level: ^ 77777790 ^ 000000
Equipment: ^ 777777 All occupations ^ 000000
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Nowhere in there does it state that you reduce high heal's cool down, aside from the Mora enchant known as Cure1.

 

The only thing this ring offers is cast delay for High Heal, a total of 1 second removed which would mean no delay between high heals. This however requires Archbishop Lv. 2.

 

That means you would need both Cure1 and Archbishop Lv.2 if you want high heal to have no delay and no cooldown from this ring, hell if you get Archbishop Lv. 1 as well then you will also get all the variable cast time removed as well. I don't know enough about AB enchants but unless you have the two bolded enchants equipped at the same time as this ring then it will not be possible.


Edited by Nirvanna21, 06 December 2017 - 01:34 PM.

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#2 PervySageMarty

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 02:26 PM

This is correct.

 

You can easily get Archbishop lvl 1 enchant for the costume top headgear, but Archbishop lvl 2 is purely something only really possible as an enchant for the Mora Empowered Wand of Affection without causing much conflict everywhere else.


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 04:02 PM

Dont forget that there's always the possibility for skills to have different cast times/fixed cast times/cooldowns/cast delays on jRO, making some of their gear bonuses to not make any sense on our server :T


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 04:19 PM

"Reuse standby time - 1 second" this is cast delay reduction, like a Kiel card

"Reuse wait time - 10 seconds" this is cooldown reduction.

 

Atm the AB Ring is providing a 1 second cooldown reduction. It should be cast delay.


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 04:32 PM

gonna link the other thread for relevance

https://forums.warpp...-parity-change/

 

i disagree, v.spear on spirit king ring effect says cooldown on iro's

 

cooldown from 1s to 3s i believe should be the intended effect because of server differences

 

 

edit 1 :

I dunno why google is translating differently when the only term used is"  再使用待機時間

reuse standby time on google translate

which is found on Highness Heal, Epiclesis, Warmer, Diamond Dust, Varetyr Spear and Earth Grave part of spirit king ring and arch bishop ring 's description. 

 

edit2: also found on cureLv1 jro side.

 


Edited by 4853121207141913140, 07 December 2017 - 03:43 AM.

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#6 Nirvanna21

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 04:37 PM

gonna link the other thread for relevance

https://forums.warpp...-parity-change/

 

i disagree, v.spear on spirit king ring effect says cooldown on iro's

 

cooldown from 1s to 3s i believe should be the intended effect because of server differences

 

As I said, the best thing I can do at this point is try and poke camp when he is not busy, since he has the ability to find out the correct answers.


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Posted 10 December 2017 - 05:19 PM

"Reuse standby time - 1 second" this is cast delay reduction, like a Kiel card

"Reuse wait time - 10 seconds" this is cooldown reduction.

 

Atm the AB Ring is providing a 1 second cooldown reduction. It should be cast delay.


This cannot be.

 

This is the google translation for Spirit King Ring, another item that has a cooldown reduction effect.
 

The power of the king of the spirits was put in
A ring fitted with jewels.
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Vit + 5
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Skill delay - 5%
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[Earth Grave],
[Diamond dust]
Reuse wait time - 2 seconds
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[Velatuar Spear]
Casting time - 1.5 seconds
Reuse standby time - 0.5 seconds
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[Warmer]
Casting time - 50%
Fixed casting time - 50%
Reuse waiting time - 15 seconds
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Additionally every time BaseLv increases by 8
[Earth Grave],
[Diamond dust] in
Damage given + 1%
 
 
And this is the current description on iRO

 
This ring contains the power of the Spirit King.
Class: Accessory
Weight: 20
Required Level: 50
Required Jobs: All Jobs
Vit + 5
Reduces the variable casting time of Varetyr Spear by 1.5 seconds.
Reduces the variable casting time of Warmer by 50%.
Reduces the fixed casting time of Warmer by 50%.
Reduces the cast delay of skills by 5%.
Reduces the cooldown of Diamond Dust and Earth Grave by 2 seconds.
Reduces the cooldown of Varetyr Spear by 0.5 seconds.
Reduces the cooldown of Warmer by 15 seconds.
Increases the damage of Diamond Dust and Earth Grave by 1% for every 8 base levels.
 
 
Reuse Wait time, Reuse Standby time, and Reuse Waiting time. 
All converted / translated to "Cooldown".
 
Does this not create inconsistency, if spirit king ring translation is cooldown, why would high heal be aftercast delay?
(when they all use the same japanese characters (ctrl+c, ctrl+f, ctrl+v on divine pride))
 
 
This is what Cure1Lv. does in iRO
https://www.divine-p...em/4803/cure1lv (server set to iRO)

Decreases cooldown time for Highness Heal by 3 seconds.
 
This is what Cure1Lv does in jRO
https://www.divine-p...em/4803/cure1lv (server set to jRO) (google translate, set bonus omitted)
 
[Highness heel]
Casting time - 100%
[Highness heel]
Reuse standby time - 1 second
 
 
[Highness heel] Casting time - 100%.
Is found on Cure1Lv and Arch Bishop Ring's set bonus with ArchbishopLv1
https://www.divine-p...5/archbishop1lv
 
[Highness heel] Reuse standby time - 1 second
Is found on Cure1Lv and Arch Bishop Ring's set bonus with ArchbishopLv2 (Heal Amount3 on iro)
 

 

 
 
I believe that; equipping archbishop1Lv, heal amount3, and arch bishop ring, remove the need to equip a light of cure (CureLv1).
 

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 08:37 AM

Slightly off topic but relating to the AB ring - what is a good card to put into it?  I don't see many carded AB rings on sale so just wondering what people are putting into it.


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Posted 13 December 2017 - 08:40 AM

yoyo \ kbc?

 


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