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#1 jamdonutjam

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:06 PM

Mind sharing your setup?

 

I couldnt kill her on time with: 120 vit/dex 112 int

 

+12 HWHB [Bung]                                          Malicious Set

New Wave Sunglasses                                   +9 Kingbird Weap

Strawberry Mouth Guard                                Mid Costume MHP+1%

+9 Medical Scrubs [Peco]                               +9 Hard Earring

+9 Tae Goo EA8 [2 AS]                                   +9 Magical Pendant

+9 FAW EA10 [Menblatt]

+9 Temp Dex [Firelock]

Fairy Leaf [Zerom]

Sarah EA1/EA2

 

with HP Increase Large (~80k total HP) I can only get her to yellow health, hence not sure if popping foods will be enough

 

 

maybe i can swap Mal Set to Kingbird set

not sure if investing on a Dex Abusive (+Valk Manteau?) would make it

outside of foods, are there other consumables that increase HP/SP?

 

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#2 Ashuckel

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:21 PM

make your faw ea4/2/1 to gain 4% ranged dmg and 10% delay reduction, and a BS gloves on the 2nd slot. (well, if you are willing to spend)

Also, would be much better if you said how close you got to kill her. Coz if its not that much, some more buffs surelly couls suffice it.

PS: use a Pororoca Shoes to get Deluge for yourself, will increase your max hp and give 20% water db dmg.

Edited by Ashuckel, 15 December 2017 - 01:31 PM.

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#3 Zayaan

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:26 PM

Focus more on cast delay, less on damage. Get a +8 Skin of Gwiber and you'll be able to do it just fine.

 

https://forums.warpp...ears/?p=2754912


Edited by Zayaan, 15 December 2017 - 01:56 PM.

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#4 jamdonutjam

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 02:07 PM

oh yes i totally forgot about pororoca

 

i would definitely grab a BS glove

 

id prefer not make an ea4/2/1 since i share the faw with other classes or buy since its quite niche, but if i have to i shall

 

okay ill try make a +8 gwiber 

 

 

thanks guys, appreciate it


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Posted 16 December 2017 - 01:46 AM

With a time limit to finish in 5min, you need above 66667 damage per second. Conservatively it’s safer to assume 70k DPS. You need to plan around it, be it shooting one db every second for 70-80k or shooting 2 db per second at 35-40k etc.

The thing with db’s delay is that every 10% delay is a reduction of 0.2 seconds which is huge. A full 90% delay reduc allows for 5 db per second (i’m simplifying and assuming close to insta cast on all cases), which only requires 14k per db to finish. Your base HP without any buffs is more than enough to cover that damage. This base HP and SP is what makes RKs favor delay reduction over everything else (unless in strings).
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Posted 16 December 2017 - 02:22 AM

Elaborating what nirvanna said. It means, even with those delay reducs, you are not fast enough to produce that DPS. Perhaps you need faster clicking or spend less time doing nothing (such as moving, etc)
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#7 jamdonutjam

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 08:32 AM

okay i managed to finish with ~40s to spare

 

int dex vit foods + sp inc + red trans + deluge

 

i think my issue was my cast time; popping foods significantly increased my dps

 

 

thanks for the help you guys :D


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Posted 20 December 2017 - 01:58 AM

make your faw ea4/2/1 to gain 4% ranged dmg and 10% delay reduction, and a BS gloves on the 2nd slot. (well, if you are willing to spend)

Also, would be much better if you said how close you got to kill her. Coz if its not that much, some more buffs surelly couls suffice it.

PS: use a Pororoca Shoes to get Deluge for yourself, will increase your max hp and give 20% water db dmg.

 

Blacksmith's Gloves [1] only adds more ACD right?

To overthrow the old FAW 4/2/1 + 2x Fairy methode.

 

 

My DB RK has way more than 100 ACD but now other problems.

 

I could drop HWHB for Bio5 hat (but does it increase dmg signitficant due to diminishing return with a lvl5-7 hp echant?)

 

Or I could drop Tae Goo and go for Valk Hammer + +12 Scutum

 

 

Yesterday I hit instant cast with some Dex tweaking. Should I go in that way? (But it may lack in some dmg).


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Posted 20 December 2017 - 03:40 AM

you are overdoing ACD. 90% is the tops you need in IRO because we have DB to be minimum 0.2seconds CD. So you may cut down on ACD gears and replace them with HP/range/cast. Just set it at 90%.

 

Also, to be able to ACTUALLY do 5 DB a second even with 90% acd is another problem by itself. Most people can't do it without great pings, and even then, due to animation delay, only at 190aspd do you have a chance of actually sprouting out anywhere near 5 with insta-cast or close to insta-cast. The other option to do around 3-4 DBs is what most people settle for, which is animation cancelling with DB-walking. It's a bit more tedious, but worth it since you dont need that high of aspd. Its generally these players going valk hammer+ scutum, but they do have 90% acd even with these.

 


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