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#1 Ascar91

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:10 PM

Hey team,

 

well, it would be nice to get zeny sinks back again. I had the feeling that the Raffler was doing his job and we really need sinks again. Inflation is getting out of hand... again. >.<


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#2 Amongluttony

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:19 PM

To be honest i dont see any help with the Raffler this time, maybe put a really rare or powerful item there with very low chance to win can really help, just a example:

1M per ticket

Consolation prize 10~20 strawberrys (dont cover the investment but still are useful)

grand prize Kafra blossom card (chance to win 0.5%)


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:28 PM

I wouldnt mind. But people complaining about "oh no I can only have 2b on my char" should say everything. :P

Please find a good way to get zeny off the server again. Thanks 


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#4 rhexis

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:55 PM

Too little too late. A raffler is not going to help much.
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 10:22 PM

Yes, yes, yes, and yes!

 

I was talking exactly about this on Teamspeak and I was glad to see that the first thread on the list was this one.

 

Why did you guys remove that Zeny Sink? People were wasting billions of zeny on consumables that were being spent on WoE and PvE so people were litterally deleting billions of zeny away from the server.. Economy was somewhat "stabilized" and stuff started to get easier on everyone and boom. Raffler is gone and many events have made silvervine prices go crazy again.

 

You distracted us well during the vacations but THE SOUTH REMEMBERS.

 

GIVE US BACK OUR BELOVED ZENY SINK! GIVE US BACK OUR RAFFLER!!!

 

 

Please? :D


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:37 PM

i have some useless items like useless cards which nobody want to buy...
maybe put a npc in 5cards + an amomunt of zeny for a box which got a random drop from bad till super good if that is possible...
or like other said the raffler back ... there are many options for a zeny sink.
or just wait till a single elu coast 5m and do nothing till the server got 100players left and die.
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:47 PM

Nono I didnt open this topic to rant on the WP team.

Its just a friendly reminder for them that we need another Zeny sink ;)


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:51 AM

I got an idea... What if you make NPC that will upgrade your equipment for a fee 5mil each time.

But the success rate is only 2% AND the equipment will not break if the upgrade fail...

I know alot of rich people will try using that NPC to upgrade their equipment.

Just do like the desocket card NPC, Richard (with NO item to raise the chances of a successful)

 

This is one of the way to Zeny sink (I hope)


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 02:02 AM

I got an idea... What if you make NPC that will upgrade your equipment for a fee 5mil each time.
But the success rate is only 2% AND the equipment will not break if the upgrade fail...
I know alot of rich people will try using that NPC to upgrade their equipment.
Just do like the desocket card NPC, Richard (with NO item to raise the chances of a successful)

This is one of the way to Zeny sink (I hope)


Related to this, here's something WP seems to have trouble understanding:

If something has a cash shop alternative, it's not a zeny sink. If you can do something ONLY with zeny, that's a zeny sink.
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Posted 14 January 2018 - 04:37 AM

Enchant sunglasses with slot.

Cost: 100m

Chance: 10%
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Posted 14 January 2018 - 07:20 AM

Ye bring it in guys. Nice ideas. I like the sunglasses... that would burn zeny of the server like hell.


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 07:24 AM

Bring comodo diamond gambler, raffle npc, and strawberry and blue herb npc seller.
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Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:36 AM

A Zenny sink will not fix Lazy Players. If you're unhappy the current cost of items on the market, I'd advise to farm more, or simple not play anymore.


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:48 AM

paramarket


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:50 AM

A Zenny sink will not fix Lazy Players. If you're unhappy the current cost of items on the market, I'd advise to farm more, or simple not play anymore.

 

I suggest you go and google how economy works.

 

Its not about them being lazy at all.


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:56 AM

On a P.server I used to play, they had a map called the "MVP room." If WP created a huge map and filled it with every MVP in the game but took out the chance for cards or equipment, and put a hefty price tag and a time limit on it, I think people would enjoy that for a while, at least.

 

But I wouldn't hold my breath on any ideas being implemented any time soon.


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:08 AM

IRO already have Paramarket update but is not implemented, yet. It could be made useful perhaps, assuming they have full control now on the settings. If I remember correctly, only a handful of things were possible to tweak in Paramarket.

 

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For anyone interested:

Paramarket update test/discussion thread (Renewal server):

https://forums.warpp...updated/page-14

 

Paramarket info on fan made wiki page:

http://ragnarok.wiki...iki/Para_Market

 


Edited by VModCinnamon, 14 January 2018 - 09:13 AM.
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#18 Wolfen

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 10:49 AM

I still think a 5%-10% zenny tax on every rodex, trade or item vend on a player shop would do wonders on estabilising the zeny amount.

Now on what cpuld iro do, put the raffer back, but only rotate between r.ori, r.elu and strawberrys consolidations, just change the grand prices and the entry cost.

Edited by Wolfen, 14 January 2018 - 10:49 AM.

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:32 PM

Campitor has expressed interest in using paramarket for selling items commonly sought after and/or commonly botted, such as alchemist potting items. I'll leave a note for him to see if he's still considering this option.
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Posted 14 January 2018 - 04:17 PM

Silvervine is 13M now. Does anyone care?


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 05:33 PM

Silvervine is 13M now. Does anyone care?

 

no we don't, that's why we have lots of people bringing this up in the forums and ingame and the GM team thinking of paramarketing.

 

it's like .. wooosh


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 06:46 PM

slottet sunglasses in market is nice idea, all who farm bio3  can raffle a lot of sunglasses

 

 

 

 bring the rafller back, we need more blue herbs >.<


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:23 PM

no we don't, that's why we have lots of people bringing this up in the forums and ingame and the GM team thinking of paramarketing.

 

it's like .. wooosh

 

SV is 12m now, thanks for caring it musta worked!


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:03 PM

SV is 12m now, thanks for caring it musta worked!

 

not much normal players can do other that NOT RISE THE PRICE


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 09:44 PM

*looks at the multiple pages of spam

 

I propose a 15,000z base price for sending mail to non-friends ~


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