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[DORZ]

Good day everyone... May I know what is the best weapon for ab gene based on your experience. I know it depends on the monster but for general mvp purposes, what do u think is the best one and what card? thank u so much.

[Ashuckel]

Hurricane Fury [AK], highest refine and EA enchant possible. Highest damage. 2h

Glorious Morning Star. Highest demihuman damage. 1h

Robot Arm. Highest general damage. 1h

(+15)Crimson Mace.2nd Highest general damage, requires less str to be fully effective as Robot Arm, has less matk. 1h

Edited by Ashuckel, 20 January 2018 - 01:16 AM.

[pp322]

Vicious Mind Mace [AK] with perfect Damage to Boss monsters and Ranged Damage Bonus properties

[DORZ]

Hurricane Fury [AK], highest refine and EA enchant possible. Highest damage. 2h

Glorious Morning Star. Highest demihuman damage. 1h

Robot Arm. Highest general damage. 1h

(+15)Crimson Mace.2nd Highest general damage, requires less str to be fully effective as Robot Arm, has less matk. 1h

 

HF is somewhat not on my list since i prefer shield.

Glorious star - I have this for bio

 

I was thinking of Crimson mace... Just curious about less str... Why?

[DORZ]

Vicious Mind Mace [AK] with perfect Damage to Boss monsters and Ranged Damage Bonus properties

 

Im not familiar with this mace. Is it really the best damage for boss monsters? How's your ab damage doing using this mace?

 

Thanks.

[DataDrain]

HF is somewhat not on my list since i prefer shield.

Glorious star - I have this for bio

 

I was thinking of Crimson mace... Just curious about less str... Why?

 

Weapon Lvl 3 and Huge EAtk, but low Base Weapon Atk

 

Learn about ATK formula here

[Ashuckel]

each 1str gives +0,5% base weapon atk power. Robot Arm has 195 base atk, while Crimson has 80 base. Crimson makes up for that with the bonus atk gained per refine and lvls.

At 160 str, a +12 Robot Arm has the exact same average damage as a +15 Crimson Mace.
Higher values of str will be more favorable to Robot Arm, lesser values, Crimson.

[pp322]

Im not familiar with this mace. Is it really the best damage for boss monsters? How's your ab damage doing using this mace?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicious Mind with perfect bonus properties. It is impossible to be owner this weapon But if you have one this is the best 1h-Mace for ABing now

 

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Edited by pp322, 20 January 2018 - 02:17 AM.

[pp322]

each 1str gives +0,5% base weapon atk power. Robot Arm has 195 base atk, while Crimson has 80 base. Crimson makes up for that with the bonus atk gained per refine and lvls.

At 160 str, a +12 Robot Arm has the exact same average damage as a +15 Crimson Mace.
Higher values of str will be more favorable to Robot Arm, lesser values, Crimson.

 

I have some question about STR in case active Power Maximize(Enforcer Shoes). Robo still need 160str to beat crimson ?

[Ashuckel]

a little less str would do it. Just keep in mind, 160 str isnt something hard to pull off. 120 base str, job bonus/buffs and +20str food already makes you past 150

Edited by Ashuckel, 20 January 2018 - 02:04 AM.

[pp322]

a little less str would do it. Just keep in mind, 160 str isnt something hard to pull off. 120 base str, job bonus/buffs and +20str food already makes you past 150

 

I need to keep dex120 int120 for mob scarf bonus. In my mind 3 times bonus matk form mob > str120(tengu or mob) + robor's arm or i miss something ?

[Ashuckel]

it is similar, but the later has more damage potential basically because the game makes ATK scaling much much easier than matk.

With the all the gears and buff you can have, the small 10% size modifier from tengu can easily become 150~200+ total atk. And then theres the 11% ranged, applying to all of the atk (status too) and matk

Edited by Ashuckel, 20 January 2018 - 02:27 AM.

[DORZ]

Btw, why are RTE, Erde and Thanatos Hammer not in the choices now for ab? And is it not affected by ak card? only as card? 

Edited by DORZ, 20 January 2018 - 03:27 AM.

[Ashuckel]

Valid choices, but the question was best weapons, answer given were best weapons. AK increases it, as it increases atk.

[DORZ]

Valid choices, but the question was best weapons, answer given were best weapons. AK increases it, as it increases atk.

 

 

Oh ok, that's a good clarification. My last question... For these 4 weapons, can u rank it from 1-4.. 1 being the best and 4 the least? assumed they all have the same refine level.. "For general purpose mvping"

 

RTE + 3xAK

ERDE(full enchant) + 2xAK

CRIMSON +1AK

THANATOS +AK

 

Thank you so much!

Edited by DORZ, 20 January 2018 - 03:55 AM.

[Ashuckel]

at wich refinement

[DORZ]

at wich refinement

 

All +12 or you can rank it all at +15

[Ashuckel]

total str?

[DORZ]

total str?

 

 

120

[yauhoilun]

+15 HF EA12 with AK card

 

600k per bomb easily

[Ashuckel]

the only weapon of those that is worth +15ing is the crimson mace, the Erde doesnt gain much atk ans the others are lv4 weapons, aka hard as f to reach that refine.

at 12:Thana Hammer>Erde/RTE>Crimson

RTE can pull ahead of Thana Hammer by a small margin against medium sized enemies, but will lose on big,wich are most mvps.

Erde has the lowest atk+matk of them all, but due to the nature of ranged%, it can still be decent.Keep in mind i counted as max ea enchant, and those are not common nor cheap.

[StunTosMati]

Btw...crimson sabre is give more atk than crimson mace...why ppl choose crimson mace is because crimson mace wont break...n ppl forget about crimson sabre actually better than mace even no give big different

[StunTosMati]

Skill on gene if not wrong also have passive skill for handed weapon

[carbinemortiser]

Crimson sabre has 75% damage modifier to large monsters.

[DORZ]

the only weapon of those that is worth +15ing is the crimson mace, the Erde doesnt gain much atk ans the others are lv4 weapons, aka hard as f to reach that refine.

at 12:Thana Hammer>Erde/RTE>Crimson

RTE can pull ahead of Thana Hammer by a small margin against medium sized enemies, but will lose on big,wich are most mvps.

Erde has the lowest atk+matk of them all, but due to the nature of ranged%, it can still be decent.Keep in mind i counted as max ea enchant, and those are not common nor cheap.

 

Just what I was thinking of.. I got an idea now... Thanks for the help!