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#1 XIII_Eraser

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 02:06 PM

Are enforcer shoes worth it if you're only going for the Atk% bonus and the Ignore Defense? I know its on a case by case basis depending on how much a person is willing to spend but I want to know if generally its worth it just for atk bonus and defense ignore assuming I max out the skills needed for both.


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#2 ShinobiEX3

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 03:33 PM

hmm maybe


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Posted 20 January 2018 - 03:44 PM

and the HP/SP bonus

 

and the Power Maximize

 

worth it


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Posted 20 January 2018 - 04:42 PM

Yes, it is worth!
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Posted 20 January 2018 - 04:43 PM

I don't see any huge difference on my damage vs temporal luk and enforcer shoes in terms of my crit type gx. it might just because I only have 1 dex which is doesn't give a variance in my dmg. But if you're planning to do RC build, the dmg you're gonna get is noticeable. You can also use enforcer shoes on your other char to utilize power maximize then switch to other shoes.


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Posted 20 January 2018 - 07:07 PM

I don't see any huge difference on my damage vs temporal luk and enforcer shoes in terms of my crit type gx. it might just because I only have 1 dex which is doesn't give a variance in my dmg. But if you're planning to do RC build, the dmg you're gonna get is noticeable. You can also use enforcer shoes on your other char to utilize power maximize then switch to other shoes.

 

Is that with power maximize and the bonus from weapon crush + counter slash? Isn't your damage supposed to be noticeably higher?


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Posted 20 January 2018 - 08:34 PM

I dont think dex affects the variance
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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:13 PM

MA has like 0.2 seconds of VCT, and 0.3 seconds of FCT. It would be very unnoticeable.


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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:44 PM

But he doesnt use MA
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Posted 20 January 2018 - 09:46 PM

I didn't see anywhere currently in this thread that tells us what he uses.


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 02:00 AM

Good replacement to str boots. Luk boots, not so much.
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Posted 21 January 2018 - 03:32 PM

Yong is right I'm not on planning to use the enforcer shoes for MA it's more as a replacement for temporal str boots.
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Posted 21 January 2018 - 05:01 PM

Yong is right I'm not on planning to use the enforcer shoes for MA it's more as a replacement for temporal str boots.

 

They are better than Temp Str boots for RC, the 20% ATK is a nice mitigation for the heavily loss of pure ATK. Obviously you get more damage if things like BP procs, but eh, I like the constant flow of DPS rather than the random chance of burst.


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 05:37 PM

They are better than Temp Str boots for RC, the 20% ATK is a nice mitigation for the heavily loss of pure ATK. Obviously you get more damage if things like BP procs, but eh, I like the constant flow of DPS rather than the random chance of burst.


Im guessing, temporal luk wins for crit type because of def bypass nerf?
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Posted 21 January 2018 - 05:53 PM

even if it was there, there are more effective ways to get def ignore for the most common races already. 30~38% crit dmg is a pretty sizeable boost (aside a QoL aspd enchant and the +200 boosts)

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 06:55 PM

You can just RC and do the same thing. How many edp bottles can you buy for 1.5b?


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 07:57 PM

You can just RC and do the same thing. How many edp bottles can you buy for 1.5b?

 

well it does boost RC too, like jump from 100k to 140k on celine kimi.

and for MA, if u setup it right, you can one-two shot monster at leveling stages without edp


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 08:00 PM

at current price, 21k+
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Posted 21 January 2018 - 08:13 PM

^ if you strictly talking about RC / CRS GX or even MA

question yourself if can you afford it right now. you will eventually have to get your hands on one of these.

Enforcer shoe is far superior as compared to the choices available right now, 

that 20% boost is a multiplier, it wields better performance as your equipment setup improves.

 

 

well it does boost RC too, like jump from 100k to 140k on celine kimi.

and for MA, if u setup it right, you can one-two shot monster at leveling stages without edp

 

wait. this is with mild wind and level 5 venom impress, right?

i just gotten hold of that leo crown and never seems to get it to work & i only had level 1 impress ._.


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 08:52 PM

yeah, i only deal 50k without VI lol


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 09:14 PM

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 10:10 PM

Yes, this Enforcer shoes really good, far better than temporal BP because it boost Atk, HP/SP bonus, and bypass def and the most important things that now GX can use MA build for leveling, so the demand for poison bottle decrease and can be bought at cheaper price in the long term :)

 

 

As a RC GX, what is the proper skill build so we can get the max benefit from enforcer shoes ? i tried simulate the skill build but it seems i must sacrifice the VI level just to lv 2, is it ok just using a lv 2 VI ? need any advice thx


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 10:21 PM

I dropped VI because what's the point of having it, things die fast enough.


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 10:37 PM

I think it's really good for DD DA , DD Crit  GX leveling with MA  use dual weapons instead of Katar 

* For DD Crit  just try MA build   after max level just reset stat/skill to DD crit  (Reset for avoid DA , make sure that changed to SinX at Job lv. 42) 


I'm making MA GX  now as SinX    leveling with dual weapons is great 

Hunterfly carded on both weapons will save a lot of consumables

I have +7 Enforcer shoes in my Kafra   I think I'll stick with it :D
 

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Edited by NekoCaptainNoob, 22 January 2018 - 12:27 AM.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 06:23 AM

Will this make MA viable in NCT? Any plausible set-ups for MA leveling? Dual wield or katar?


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