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#201 Zayaan

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 08:58 PM

What about for DB RK? Activate -70% delay,then gear switch to add only -20% delay and rest of the gear to full ranged mod?

 

It's certainly viable with low ping, otherwise I'd only bother switching shoes.


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#202 blackCROSSCY

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 09:25 PM

switch shoes and garment. Keep the peuz armor and accessories.

Edit: i think you can switch whatever you want, but it’s helluva troublesome for 10seconds of ACD the more things you swap

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#203 heickelrrx

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 10:24 PM

Your RK there has less than 100m worth of gears? So you don't have any +9 gear? Not even a Tae Goo Lyeon? 

my Bio4 setup for leveling

 

+5 2x Kingbird Erde 2x EA 30m

Temp Dex with Verit : 8m

GFSS [1] Vit +7 (Aliot) : 10m

Anti Medium Bradium Shield : 15m

2x Peuz Seal (SP enchant, Not perfect) : 10m

Glorious Suit : not sure, self sustain from EMB , let's say 40m

 

I'm not exactly leeching, average run with decent party always able to clear under 30m, why should I invest on high end gear just for freaking leveling anw -_-

 

when I got 175/60 I reset anw, it's really not capable doing anything solo, how come u expect people who just playing with same setup afford more expensive gear anw?

 

it's has been few month, I'm able to gear up myself using this RK After of course reseting to Physical Build I'm not already posses some decent gear as +10 ORC, +9 Temporal Luk AD/LD, Faw Fatal 10, +9 Zweihander, Luminous, Syringe ect, now my current focus is getting higher end weapon as my current main weapon isn't exactly good, since I only can afford doing 1 Faceworm + OGH run solo on weekdays due to my busy life irl, can't really grab much but I steadly made 50m/day.

 

DB is great for leveling, but for farming? tbh it's meh especially for people who have RK as their 1st character on this server, I strongly recomend STR build for newer player and crit build for high end player for more money and versatility in many ground including have access to Holy/Shadow/Ghost element attack


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Posted 27 January 2018 - 12:37 AM

my Bio4 setup for leveling

 

+5 2x Kingbird Erde 2x EA 30m

Temp Dex with Verit : 8m

GFSS [1] Vit +7 (Aliot) : 10m

Anti Medium Bradium Shield : 15m

2x Peuz Seal (SP enchant, Not perfect) : 10m

Glorious Suit : not sure, self sustain from EMB , let's say 40m

 

I'm not exactly leeching, average run with decent party always able to clear under 30m, why should I invest on high end gear just for freaking leveling anw -_-

 

when I got 175/60 I reset anw, it's really not capable doing anything solo, how come u expect people who just playing with same setup afford more expensive gear anw?

 

it's has been few month, I'm able to gear up myself using this RK After of course reseting to Physical Build I'm not already posses some decent gear as +10 ORC, +9 Temporal Luk AD/LD, Faw Fatal 10, +9 Zweihander, Luminous, Syringe ect, now my current focus is getting higher end weapon as my current main weapon isn't exactly good, since I only can afford doing 1 Faceworm + OGH run solo on weekdays due to my busy life irl, can't really grab much but I steadly made 50m/day.

 

DB is great for leveling, but for farming? tbh it's meh especially for people who have RK as their 1st character on this server, I strongly recomend STR build for newer player and crit build for high end player for more money and versatility in many ground including have access to Holy/Shadow/Ghost element attack

 

Man, props to you for working with that gear.


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Posted 01 February 2018 - 03:57 AM

let's see

 

under 400m Budget? as y point up for everyone

 

 

not sure lol

 

he point that bio5 is for everyone that even level 100 can join, I doubt he ever farm bio5, my guild already done that on release, and we decided it really waste off supplies comparing to -_-ty drop rate when compared to gigantic craft requirment

 

 

well as he clearly state 

 

doing bio4 I do with  RK under 100m budget. idk what he mean by Party Guide on Bio4 can be reused, reason why Bio5 is insane is because the -_-ty rate compared and if u haven't got high tier gear u can't never hope do it efficiently, (Only +7 weapon, no faw, ect) while on NOGH it is possible to do so.

 

 

also as we talking about budget, warlock gear is really expensive,WL has great DPS but need a gear 2 invest so it's really not everyone area,

 

not sure about the definition of everyone on this section, but I believe everyone include low tier player that just start the game

 

Because slacking and ranting wont get you anywhere, don't even bother to search the guide I see. :heh:

 

 

I think you just leech your way during your previous bio4 party run, because you don't even understand what partying is and what role held by each class inside a decent bio4 party without gwings of course.

 

Partying means covering each member weaknesses including covering members that can only afford cheap gears through natural class advantages.

 

For example :

Gravity create the strongest tanking class in the game that can cover almost every monster fatal damaging skills alone even without decent gear or naked

Gravity create class that can provide free tripled Kiel & Double beelzebub cards area effect buff

Gravity create class that can provide free tripled Pharaoh card area effect

Gravity create class that can render AoE spells unusable and boost specific elemental skills both physical and magic area effect

Gravity create class that can sustain party by absorbing several party members damage into his own

Gravity create class that can provide drake cards effect that affecting whole members inside the party

Gravity create class that can provide complete protection against strip / breaking attempts to your equipped gears

Gravity create class that can buff party members and debuff enemies at same time.

there are many more perks that blessed into specific class by gravity

 

Partying : Even when you're just pretty much a little cogs on your own, but when properly assembled with the other complementing parts as a collective entity you can shake the Rune Midgard.

 

Basic Bio4 and Bio5 party aim is party survival while still be able to dish decent party combined damage. 400m budget to gear a single party member are more than enough for Bio5 partying, the key things to be brought are alice carded shield because all monsters are boss protocol, garment with common neutral element reduction (raydric) / specific element reduction for tanking monsters specific elemental skills (marse, jakk , dustiness, etc), various elemental armor and cheap reflect gears for party members with tanking role to keep monsters latching into the tanks.


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#206 heickelrrx

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 08:47 PM

Because slacking and ranting wont get you anywhere, don't even bother to search the guide I see. :heh:


I think you just leech your way during your previous bio4 party run, because you don't even understand what partying is and what role held by each class inside a decent bio4 party without gwings of course.

Partying means covering each member weaknesses including covering members that can only afford cheap gears through natural class advantages.

For example :
Gravity create the strongest tanking class in the game that can cover almost every monster fatal damaging skills alone even without decent gear or naked
Gravity create class that can provide free tripled Kiel & Double beelzebub cards area effect buff
Gravity create class that can provide free tripled Pharaoh card area effect
Gravity create class that can render AoE spells unusable and boost specific elemental skills both physical and magic area effect
Gravity create class that can sustain party by absorbing several party members damage into his own
Gravity create class that can provide drake cards effect that affecting whole members inside the party
Gravity create class that can provide complete protection against strip / breaking attempts to your equipped gears
Gravity create class that can buff party members and debuff enemies at same time.
there are many more perks that blessed into specific class by gravity

Partying : Even when you're just pretty much a little cogs on your own, but when properly assembled with the other complementing parts as a collective entity you can shake the Rune Midgard.

Basic Bio4 and Bio5 party aim is party survival while still be able to dish decent party combined damage. 400m budget to gear a single party member are more than enough for Bio5 partying, the key things to be brought are alice carded shield because all monsters are boss protocol, garment with common neutral element reduction (raydric) / specific element reduction for tanking monsters specific elemental skills (marse, jakk , dustiness, etc), various elemental armor and cheap reflect gears for party members with tanking role to keep monsters latching into the tanks.


I do asking for bio5 efficient guide for RK under 400m budget, not bio4 guide

Stop changing the topic, and I don't recall asking u to judge how do I do party?

If u can't provide guide for low budget RK on Bio5 then your argument that bio5 is open for everyone is invalid, just getting in for level 100 character is not a bar to set that is open to everyone.


Also mind that not everyone can be rich upon playing the game, they need gear and money, WK set as I earlier state is much more reasonable to get than true seyren because lot of userbase is looking for it, instead specific userbase who only play rk/sc
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Posted 03 February 2018 - 05:40 PM

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excuse me?

 

I'll wait your bio5 fargment hunt guide for low budget party with non maxed character then

 

 

-Still waiting for your bio5 guide for low budget RK + Video

 

 

well as he clearly state 

 

doing bio4 I do with  RK under 100m budget. idk what he mean by Party Guide on Bio4 can be reused, reason why Bio5 is insane is because the -_-ty rate compared and if u haven't got high tier gear u can't never hope do it efficiently, (Only +7 weapon, no faw, ect) while on NOGH it is possible to do so.

 

 

also as we talking about budget, warlock gear is really expensive,WL has great DPS but need a gear 2 invest so it's really not everyone area,

 

not sure about the definition of everyone on this section, but I believe everyone include low tier player that just start the game

 

 

I do asking for bio5 efficient guide for RK under 400m budget, not bio4 guide

Stop changing the topic, and I don't recall asking u to judge how do I do party?

If u can't provide guide for low budget RK on Bio5 then your argument that bio5 is open for everyone is invalid, just getting in for level 100 character is not a bar to set that is open to everyone.


Also mind that not everyone can be rich upon playing the game, they need gear and money, WK set as I earlier state is much more reasonable to get than true seyren because lot of userbase is looking for it, instead specific userbase who only play rk/sc

 

Who's being inconsistent again? :heh:

 

I already state in my previous post how you can be efficient low budget RK inside a bio5 party which have pretty much similarity guide with bio4, and I also mentioned the key gears.

 

It's simply you wont admit the bitter fact that your single lvl 175 character simply inefficient and overpowered by lesser leveled and undergeared players when formed as a party inside bio5 :heh: 

 

Stating invalidity without the reasons and facts within your arguments are pretty much stupid child way to argue.

 

Below is comparison why bio5 is more open for everyone than NOGH ever did :

Level 100 is clearly main point how the dungeon / instance are open for everyone, besides logically speaking getting multiple char and class to level 100 are far easier and less time consuming than getting multiple char and class to level 160 and it's been proven by ropd statistics that level 100-159 have higher population pool than lvl 160 and above :heh:.

 

at level above 100 to 159 there's also higher demand of getting party for undergeared characters than getting people to party at later levels  :heh:

more points to add, BIO5 doesn't have cooldown like NOGH instance, there are also no time limits for staying inside the dungeon as opposed to NOGH instance 1 hour duration.

It's just that people are less informed or don't have the general knowledge that bio5 level restriction are much lower than what their expected.

 

 

my main argument in previous post was the price surge of WK that will exceed true seyren card, not the general importance of the cards. The general importance of the cards for all physical class is simply facts and reason to support my argument.

 

Everybody can be rich upon starting the game with the right way and guides, it's a matter of priority either you have abundant time to play the game, but less real money to spend on the game or you have abundant real money to be spent on the game because you have very limited time to play.


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#208 ChakriGuard

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 11:41 PM

 

 

Everybody can be rich upon starting the game with the right way and guides, it's a matter of priority either you have abundant time to play the game, but less real money to spend on the game or you have abundant real money to be spent on the game because you have very limited time to play.

 

Or ... you can be just rich and lazy to play game ...  :p_devil:


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 01:30 AM

To get rich you need one thing, and one thing only....   WPE

 

 

Any news to the Red Baby Dragon so we can stop discuss about DB RK?


Edited by sickgaming1986, 12 February 2018 - 01:38 AM.

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