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[heickelrrx]

not everyone want to spend that much, Personally RK is my first char and it do steady farming everyday, Cheap 2 Gear up, cheap 2 level up

 

anw what you trying to do is break the game, Like I said earlier, RK isn't weak, it just The Freaking OCP Broke other class. To be honest I sometime wish all ocp item would just vanish cuz they hurt balance so bad, but I bet ppl who already buy it will rage,

 

it just Gravity idea of making money by selling OCP, while they're breaking renewal server, tbh those OCP gear not supposedly exist on our server if we just receive content from episode update.

 

Also This is an MMORPG, not freaking moba, u don't compete with other in term of DPS, different class fill holes in party, Again OCP gear break the game balance, making most end game content are soloable, and kill party play, not mention instance reward really punishing if u go party compared 2 solo

 

 

the whole thing is because OCP, and blame gravity that force WP 2 sell OCP

Edited by heickelrrx, 21 January 2018 - 08:28 AM.

[Nirvanna21]

kek, why did you purchase 2 Beelzebub :I

[GG8701]

My rk has 1.5b worth of item and it's strongAF!

[Ashuckel]

thats a pretty needlessly expensive setup that barely increases the efficiency of the class after the first few cards kek

but you do you i guess v:

[DarkGazer]

I'm willing to guess some of the numbers thrown here are a 'bit' exaggerated. 

[Nirvanna21]

It's a little bit of an in-joke.

Edited by Nirvanna21, 21 January 2018 - 11:32 AM.

[mrricebox]

"I don't care how much I spent."

 

>entire thread about damage with relation to overall investment

 

 

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[LordYggdrasill]

anw what you trying to do is break the game, Like I said earlier, RK isn't weak, it just The Freaking OCP Broke other class. To be honest I sometime wish all ocp item would just vanish cuz they hurt balance so bad, but I bet ppl who already buy it will rage.

 

Actually OCP items dont hurt balance as bad as you think, in fact the classes are more balanced with the OCP items. Without MDEF bypass items, mage classes will continue to be weak and will never have a chance to turn things around. Without the Imperial items, RGs will also continue to be weak compared to RKs. You cant just look at Gene and GX and say how OCP breaks the balance, its necessary to see from the entire picture.

 

Overall, the classes are more balanced than before, the weaker classes now have a chance to shine which will be practically impossible without OCP. In a way I do agree that OCP has gone a bit too far and it may be a good time to discontinue it, but in no way I'd support taking away all past OCP items. Some classes deserve to be buffed, and they get it rightfully.
 

[awesomegeek]

"I don't care how much I spent."

 

>entire thread about damage with relation to overall investment

 

 

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LOLs

 

Actually OCP items dont hurt balance as bad as you think, in fact the classes are more balanced with the OCP items. Without MDEF bypass items, mage classes will continue to be weak and will never have a chance to turn things around. Without the Imperial items, RGs will also continue to be weak compared to RKs. You cant just look at Gene and GX and say how OCP breaks the balance, its necessary to see from the entire picture.

 

Overall, the classes are more balanced than before, the weaker classes now have a chance to shine which will be practically impossible without OCP. In a way I do agree that OCP has gone a bit too far and it may be a good time to discontinue it, but in no way I'd support taking away all past OCP items. Some classes deserve to be buffed, and they get it rightfully.
 

 

OCP has barely addressed RG's main weakness though.. which is AoE DPS.
​Right now Cannon Spear damage w/o megs with Imperial Ring+ Imperial Spear still sucks.
​The Bio5 hat for RG is the one that made the difference. Not OCP.

​I agree with what you said mostly though.

[sickgaming1986]

My RK has 100% ACD and instant cast.

Give us this.

 

 

 

and I won't complain about my DPS.

 

 

Don't get me wrong I love my RK for what he is right now, but the OP has a point.

Others classes got way overbuffed with gear.

[Ashuckel]

no

[Yugacky]

Isn't it easy to do over 100k IB using two or three True Seyren cards?

[meli]

Red baby dragon pls.

 

[MrLekkz]

Isn't it easy to do over 100k IB using two or three True Seyren cards?

You can do it even if you dont have any true seyren card

[Sahmuurai]

hellooo

plzz buff RK, it need more gear and hp so can finish instances faster

some instances take 10 minute, it too long

if we can buff so we can finish in 5 minutes, then save lots time so can make more RK and farm more

 

thanks youuuu

[ShinobiEX3]

I don’ really care how much I spent. I care if it really worth spending for. After I tested it, it is weak and not worth it. Other classes just need maybe 10-20b to deal the same damage as 200b rk. how stupid it is:p

you contradict yourself in soo many lvls on this post it made me sleepy.

 

long story short. if you just play the game thinking that if you throw money on a char with no knowledge on how to play the char,  you will be like this guy here ^

 

PLease to all RK players or any class type players. learn your class it will save you zeny and headaches in the long run.

[heickelrrx]

Actually OCP items dont hurt balance as bad as you think, in fact the classes are more balanced with the OCP items. Without MDEF bypass items, mage classes will continue to be weak and will never have a chance to turn things around. Without the Imperial items, RGs will also continue to be weak compared to RKs. You cant just look at Gene and GX and say how OCP breaks the balance, its necessary to see from the entire picture.

 

Overall, the classes are more balanced than before, the weaker classes now have a chance to shine which will be practically impossible without OCP. In a way I do agree that OCP has gone a bit too far and it may be a good time to discontinue it, but in no way I'd support taking away all past OCP items. Some classes deserve to be buffed, and they get it rightfully.
 

 

the whole reason why OCP broke the game, not only they're ridiculous, they also easy to get,

 

reaching MDEF bypass , increasing skill damage is not must from OCP ,  they can come from item, shadow gear , cards, which is better approach for OCP

[ChakriGuard]

MvPs also break the game and they're hard to get and that's not good   

[bgmds]

you contradict yourself in soo many lvls on this post it made me sleepy.

long story short. if you just play the game thinking that if you throw money on a char with no knowledge on how to play the char, you will be like this guy here ^

PLease to all RK players or any class type players. learn your class it will save you zeny and headaches in the long run.

lol then don’t trash talk, prove that your rk can spend less and deal more damage. maybe you say, remove 2 bees and put in 2 vit 3, you can save 40b and increase 5k damage. Can’t really save while 2 was dropped to me:p And dracula isn’t possible to remove while it is effective on saving about 500 straw per instance.

[Jufi]

My RK has 100% ACD and instant cast.

Give us this.

 

 

 

and I won't complain about my DPS.

 

 

Don't get me wrong I love my RK for what he is right now, but the OP has a point.

Others classes got way overbuffed with gear.

 

Hope we get this on future OCP.

[DarkOrinus]

i was gonna write a long ass post it got deleted bc page refresh omg

 

tldr for your problems;

 

check out flp and its bonuses. balance your aftercast to 90% because they've been on about it as a cap. also if you were going for damage, now you talk about utility. which i say is good but face the consequences and i hope the benefit is more than damage output.

 

for the ocp thingy;

 

ocps = class limit would have been nice although it's too late

could also take a break and allow these gears to rotate to decrease value because availability will rise. WP can't grant exclusivity via item mall stuff cause that'll suck and they know it. specially a gear of relevance, look at unfro shadow set, although a diff nature to paying we got the same nature of being exclusive.

groove boxes also have been best in slot, so i dont see cash shop items being a problem with most. or maybe it's the i dont wanna invest anymore thing kicking in.

 

 

 

Edited by DarkOrinus, 21 January 2018 - 05:24 PM.

[ShinobiEX3]

lol then don’t trash talk, prove that your rk can spend less and deal more damage. maybe you say, remove 2 bees and put in 2 vit 3, you can save 40b and increase 5k damage. Can’t really save while 2 was dropped to me:p And dracula isn’t possible to remove while it is effective on saving about 500 straw per instance.

first of its not trash talk its truth talk. learn about your class and then put money in to your main char to be strong. if you just log in the game and just throw zeny at your char all day long with our prior knowledge on what you wan tto do for your char then, your the one making a mistake. Dont run to forums and complain that your main char is weak because you did something wrong.

 

Second if you want proof ill send you this link, https://forums.warpp...dated-08122017/ and then this, https://forums.warpportal.com/index.php?/topic/171342-rune-knight-mvp-videos/. Now go learn something.

 

3rd there is this thing called using multiple equipment's you should try that. I mean there is a reason to have a inventory >.>

[bgmds]

first of its not trash talk its truth talk. learn about your class and then put money in to your main char to be strong. if you just log in the game and just throw zeny at your char all day long with our prior knowledge on what you wan tto do for your char then, your the one making a mistake. Dont run to forums and complain that your main char is weak because you did something wrong.

 

Second if you want proof ill send you this link, https://forums.warpp...dated-08122017/ and then this, https://forums.warpp...ght-mvp-videos/. Now go learn something.

 

3rd there is this thing called using multiple equipment's you should try that. I mean there is a reason to have a inventory >.>

I don't know if you are stupid or something. First link guy doesn't even play DB rk at all. Physical RK is another way of playing RK, but it is not efficient for instance due to low damage of AOE(IB). Talking trash in the Internet is easy. People like you talk trash all day like you actually tried everything out for a class that someone said it is weak, but you are the only one who know nothing about it. rofl

 

btw, second link is useless too. RK has been proven by me that it can beat 99% of MVP or boss in iro, but what's the point of using a 100k per hit DB rk to go against a 1m damage gene on MVP farming. I really not sure what do you want to prove, or your math just suck.

[bgmds]

i was gonna write a long ass post it got deleted bc page refresh omg

 

tldr for your problems;

 

check out flp and its bonuses. balance your aftercast to 90% because they've been on about it as a cap. also if you were going for damage, now you talk about utility. which i say is good but face the consequences and i hope the benefit is more than damage output.

 

for the ocp thingy;

 

ocps = class limit would have been nice although it's too late

could also take a break and allow these gears to rotate to decrease value because availability will rise. WP can't grant exclusivity via item mall stuff cause that'll suck and they know it. specially a gear of relevance, look at unfro shadow set, although a diff nature to paying we got the same nature of being exclusive.

groove boxes also have been best in slot, so i dont see cash shop items being a problem with most. or maybe it's the i dont wanna invest anymore thing kicking in.

Yes, I did talk about damage in the first place, but the utility gained from dracula and bee can actually save a lot of supply and time from getting those for every instance because they are heavy. I wanted to sacrifice that for utility because the damage increase gain from the replacement of dracula and 2 bee will not be significant, maybe 5k-10k max. However, like some people saying gear like Red baby dragon Hat, or some other gears that buffs DB can significant buff DB for about 1.5 times, which doesn't really need to sacrifice anything. It is a good thing. Same like enforcer shoes for GX, or other skill based gears.

Edited by bgmds, 21 January 2018 - 05:46 PM.

[ChakriGuard]

Lmfao Ayin, you always QQ"ed about how GX died in WoE and even quit back when Smokies was still alive lol

Now go make me some food. B> Siroma 150k :3