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Make Cash Shop (lucky box & OCP) gears to be obtainable from in game content

Started by fuyukikun , Jan 21 2018 06:54 AM

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#1 fuyukikun

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 06:54 AM

To reward more players from ingame items rather than cash shop frenzy which is obvious play to win. Make them to be able to gained from quest or monster drops. Of course the one farmable is the hard path.

Here are the proposal. (warning: big text ahead)

LUCKY BOX & OCP ITEMS

Monster Drops:

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Quest:

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SHADOW GEARS

I also still waiting the realization of idea campitor said:

"Shadow gears dropped from monsters when the killer is using costume analyzing eye."

As of my idea, i would like to increase the incentive of killing champion monsters. Shadow gears will drop from champion monsters. As of the rate, it depends on the monster level. Some gears will drop from high leveled monsters with better rate. The rate is something like:

0.05% for noob levels (monster level 1-35)

0.1% for beginner levels (monster level 36-70)

0.15% for intermediate levels (monster level 71-100)

0.2% for advanced levels (monster level 101 - 125)

0.25% for high levels (monster level above 125)

Perhaps something like:

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Power Earring: Solid Bungisnis (0.2%), Furious Wootan Fighter (0.1%), Soldier Skeleton Ringleader (0.05%), Furious Soldier Skeleton (0.05%)

Power Pendant: Furious Wanderer (0.2%), Solid Banaspaty (0.15%), Furious Driller (0.1%), Solid Horn (0.05%)

Vital Shield: Knocker Ringleader (0.25%), Solid Snowier (0.2%), Swift Dryad (0.15%), Swift Coco (0.05%). Solid Coco (0.05%)

Vital Shoes: Solid Leib Olmai (0.2%), Solid Zombie Prisoner (0.15%), Furious Stalactic Golem (0.1%), Solid Andre (0.05%)

Lucky Armor: Elusive Zakudam (0.2%), Furious Noxious (0.15%), Poring Ringleader (0.05%), Furious Poring (0.05%), Elusive Poring (0.05%), Swift Poring (0.05%)

Lucky Weapon: Furious Venatu (0.2%), Yao Jun Ringleader (0.15%), Furious Dokebi (0.1%), Swift Yoyo (0.05%). Solid Yoyo (0.05%)

Int Earring: Solid Dark Pinguicula (0.2%), Elusive Vavayaga (0.15%), Solid Orc Lady (0.1%)

Int Pendant: Aliza Ringleader (0.2%), Swift Medusa (0.15%), Furious Wild Rose (0.1%), Solid Steel Chonchon (0.05%)

Athletic Shield: Ancient Mimic Ringleader (0.2%), Swift Dragon Tail (0.15%), Furious Toucan (0.1%), Novice Poring Ringleader (0.05%)

Athletic Shoes: Furious Alicel (0.2%), Elusive Disguise (0.15%), Furious Tamruan (0.1%), Elusive Peco Peco (0.05%)

Dex Weapon: Giant Hornet Ringleader (0.2%), Swift Stem Worm (0.15%). Sea Otter Ringleader (0.1%)

Dex Armor: Swift Dimik (0.2%), Venomous Ringleader (0.15%), Solid Requiem (0.1%), Elusive Deniro (0.05%)

Hard Armor: Elusive Bradium Golem (0.2%), Swift Poison Toad (0.15%), Solid Cornutus (0.1%)

Champion Shoes: Roda Frog Ringleader (0.05%). Furious Roda Frog (0.05%), Elusive Sting (0.2%), Elusive Alarm (0.15%)

Critical Armor: Swift Ice Titan (0.2%), Solid Porcellio (0.15%), Elusive Raggler (0.1%)

Critical Weapon: Swift Angra Mantis (0.25%), Elusive Angra Mantis (0.25%), Swift Mantis (0.1%)

Ancient Armor: Solid Nephentes (0.2%), Furious Gargoyle (0.15%), Gargoyle Ringleader (0.15%), Swift Mummy (0.1%), Solid Mummy (0.1%)

Kingbird Weapon: Elusive Violy (0.2%), Swift Violy (0.2%), Solid Violy (0.2%), Solid Parasite (0.1%), Wormtail Ringleader (0.05%)

Basis Armor: Solid Tatacho (0.25%), Solid Solider (0.15%), Swift Shellfish (0.1%), Swift Spore (0.05%)

Basis Shield: Miming Ringleader (0.25%), Solid Holden (0.15%), Elusive Magnolia (0.1%), Lunatic Ringleader (0.05%)

Divine Armor: Swift Zombie Slaughter (0.2%), Furious Lude (0.15%), Swift Orc Skeleton (0.1%), Furious Zombie (0.05%)

Divine Shield: Remover Ringleader (0.2%), Furious Clock (0.15%), Clock Ringleader (0.15%), Cookie Ringleader (0.1%)

Damned Armor: Hodremlin Ringleader (0.2%), Goat Ringleader (0.15%), Solid Goat (0.15%), Furious Smokie (0.05%)

Damned Shield: Elusive Banshee Master (0.2%), Elusive Evil Druid (0.15%), Solid Martin (0.1%), Elusive Rocker (0.05%)

Envenom Armor: Swift Centipede (0.2%), Furious Anacondaq (0.15%), Furious Argos (0.1%), Poporing Ringleader (0.05%), Furious Poporing (0.05%), Elusive Poporing (0.05%)

Envenom Shield: Solid Rogue (0.2%), Solid Assassin (0.2%), Sidewinder Ringleader (0.1%), Solid Sidewinder (0.1%), Solid Poison Spore (0.05%)

Flame Armor: Solid Vadon (0.1%), Swift Magmaring (0.2%), Swift Wolf (0.1%), Furious Baby Desertwolf (0.05%), Baby Desertwolf Ringleader (0.05%)

Flame Shield: Elusive Kasa (0.25%), Furious Explosion (0.15%), Solid Elder Willow (0.05%), Swift Elder Willow (0.05%)

Geist Armor: Plasma Ringleader (0.2%), Marionette Ringleader (0.15%), Elusive Skeleton Worker (0.1%), Elusive Hornet (0.05%)

Geist Shield: Elusive Nightmare Wraith (0.2%). Solid Whisper (0.15%), Furious Myst Case (0.1%), Swift Savage Babe (0.05%)

Hallowed Armor: Swift Vanberk (0.2%), Solid Deviruchi (0.15%), Furious Beetle King (0.1%), Elusive Chonchon (0.05%)

Hallowed Shield: Swift Loli Ruri (0.2%), Elusive Zu Pho Long (0.15%), Swift Metaller (0.1%), Furious Picky (0.05%)

Saharic Armor: Elusive Drainliar (0.1%), Furious Anolian (0.2%), Swift Piranha (0.15%), Drops Ringleader (0.05%)

Saharic Shield: Elusive Galion (0.2%), Freezer Ringleader (0.15%), Furious Merman (0.1%), Fabre Ringleader (0.05%), Solid Fabre (0.05%)

Underneath Armor: Furious Caterpillar (0.2%), Furious Rake Scaraba (0.25%), Stapo Ringleader (0.15%)

Underneath Shield: Elusive Antler Scaraba (0.25%), Swift Unihorn Scaraba (0.2%), Swift Karakasa (0.15%)

Windy Armor: Solid Mandragora (0.05%), Elusive Luciola Vespa (0.2%), Solid Roween (0.15%)

Windy Shield: Elusive Hill Wind (0.2%), Swift Hill Wind (0.2%), Swift Argiope (0.1%), Elusive Argiope (0.1%)

Immune Armor: Solid Raydric (0.2%), Swift Raydric (0.2%), Elusive Wood Goblin (0.1%)

Athena Shield: Elusive Ambernite (0.05%), Solid Kobold (0.2%), Grand peco ringleader (0.1%), Solid Grand Peco (0.1%)

Unfreezing Weapon: Furious Majoruros (0.2%), Solid High Orc (0.15%)

Stability Shield: Solid Dark Shadow (0.25%), Swift Dark Shadow (0.25%), Furious Golem (0.1%)

Unfreezing Earring: Furious Constant (0.2%), Elusive Mi Gao (0.15%)

Unfreezing Pendant: Solid Arclouze (0.2%), Arclouze Ringleader (0.2%), Elusive Orc Zombie (0.1%)

Safeguard Shield: Furious Incarnation (0.25%), Swift Incarnation (0.25%), Elusive Incarnation (0.25%)

Liberation Shoes: Skeleton General Ringleader (0.25%), Furious Skeleton General (0.25%)

Breeze Armor: Breeze Ringleader (0.2%), Furious Breeze (0.2%), Leaf Cat Ringleader (0.15%), Furious Dustiness (0.1%)

Beholder Shoes: Swift Kobold Archer (0.2%), Elusive Pitman (0.15%), Furious Hode (0.1%), Furious Marin (0.05%)

Flameguard Shield: Penomena Ringleader (0.2%), Furious Penomena (0.2%), Elusive Mimic (0.1%), Furious Mimic (0.1%)

Bloody Shoes: Echio Ringleader (0.25%), Assaulter Ringleader (0.15%),

Cranial Shield: Elusive Thara Frog (0.1%), Swift False Angel (0.2%)

Brutal Shield: Furious Orc Warrior (0.1%), Furious Nightmare Terror (0.2%), Swift Minorous (0.15%), Elusive Minorous (0.15%), Furious Minorous (0.15%)

Clamorous Shoes: Swift Knife Goblin (0.1%). Elusive Knife Goblin (0.1%), Manananggal Ringleader (0.2%), Elusive Familiar (0.05%)

Cadi Shield: Swift Raflesia Arnoldi (0.15%), Pinguicula Ringleader (0.2%), Solid Alligator (0.1%), Tarou Ringleader (0.05%)

Chemical Shoes: Elusive Scorpion (0.05%), Elusive Muscipular (0.2%). Savage Ringleader (0.1%), Solid Savage (0.1%)

Caster Pendant: Celia Alde Ringleader (0.25%), Owl Duke Ringleader (0.15%), Elusive Marduk (0.1%)

Dragoon Shield: Swift Petite (0.15%), Solid Petite (0.15%), Furious Green Ferus (0.25%), Boa Ringleader (0.05%)

Dragoon Shoes: Solid Blue Acidus (0.25%). Blue Acidus Ringleader (0.25%), Solid Draco (0.2%)

Divine Shoes: Necromancer Ringleader (0.25%), Zombie Master Ringleader (0.2%), Swift Sohee (0.1%)

Requiem Shield: Swift Teddy Bear (0.15%), Furious Dark Priest (0.2%), Elusive Ghoul (0.1%). Furious Ghoul (0.1%)

Gargantua Shield: Bigfoot Ringleader (0.1%), Dolomedes Ringleader (0.25%), Furious Sandman (0.15%), Elusive Stainer (0.05%)

Insectiside Shoes: Swift Caramel (0.1%), Solid Drosera (0.2%), Swift Greatest General (0.15%), Furious Thief Bug (0.05%), Thief Bug Ringleader (0.05%), Solid Thief Bug (0.05%)

Fisher Shoes: Furious Sropho (0.2%), Elusive Red Eruma (0.15%), Furious Plankton (0.05%)

Homer Shield: Swift Raflesia (0.15%), Solid Novus (0.15%). Swift Novus (0.15%), Elusive Novus (0.15%), Novus Ringleader (0.15%)

Hard Earring: Solid Cenere (0.25%), Solid Mineral (0.15%), Metaling Ringleader (0.1%), Solid Metaling (0.1%)

Wise Earring: Willow Ringleader (0.05%), Elusive Carat (0.2%), Swift Sleeper (0.15%), Elusive Sleeper (0.15%)

Healing Weapon: Elusive Lady Solace (0.2%), Solid Enchanted Peach Tree (0.15%), Solid Geographer (0.1%), Swift Geographer (0.1%), Muka Ringleader (0.05%)

Rapid Pendant: Solid Cecil Damon (0.25%), Furious Injustice (0.15%), Swift Seal (0.1%)

Resist Spell Pendant: Elusive Mistress of Shelter (0.2%), Miyabi Doll Ringleader (0.15%), Dumpling Child Ringleader (0.1%)

Athena Earring: Furious Apocalypse (0.2%), Swift Siroma (0.15%), Swift Creamy (0.05%)

Satanic Shield: Furious Retribution (0.2%), Swift Retribution (0.2%), Elusive Retribution (0.2%), Solid Isis (0.1%)

Seraphim Shoes: Furious Little Fatum (0.25%), Dame of Sentinel Ringleader (0.2%), Elusive Grove (0.1%)

Spellflow shoes: Swift Agav (0.25%), Elusive Phen (0.1%)
Spellflow armor: Swift Bloody Butterfly (0.15%), Elusive Menblatt (0.25%)
Spellflow shield: Swift Banshee (0.25%), Elusive Evil Nymph (0.15%)

Malicious shield: solid antique book (0.25%), swift antique book (0.25%), Solid Rideword (0.1%), Swift Rideword (0.1%)
Malicious shoes: deathword ringleader (0.2%), swift deathword (0.2%), solid deathword (0.2%), Furious Bathory (0.1%)
Malicious armor: furious hunter fly (0.1%), Elusive Tiyanak (0.2%)

Magical weapon: Solid Skogul (0.25%), Furious Harpy (0.15%), Harpy Ringleader (0.15%)
Magical earring: Laurell Ringleader (0.25%). Swift Les (0.15%)
Magical pendant: Isilla Ringleader (0.2%), Solid Iara (0.15%)

Physical earring: Elusive Salamander (0.25%). Elusive Comodo (0.15%)
Physical pendant: Furious Dark Hammer Kobold (0.25%), Elusive Dark Hammer Kobold (0.25%), Swift Pasana (0.1%)
Physical weapon: Swift Nightmare Wanderer (0.25%), Furious Shinobi (0.15%)

This idea is still rough. Any inputs are appreciated.

Edited by fuyukikun, 24 April 2018 - 04:24 PM.

#2 fuyukikun

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 02:54 AM

No comment?
So it is better for all those cash shop items from boxes stay in the box forever?

#3 YongkySH

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 03:01 AM

I shared the link on discord, hopefully people'll come

#4 fuyukikun

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 03:09 AM

moved shadow gear to the first post

Edited by fuyukikun, 26 January 2018 - 05:21 AM.

#5 MrLekkz

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 08:01 AM

+1 for this. But i don't think WP will implement it. Renewal seems to be their "money grab" server. While Chaos is stuck with magical stones/tokens and a stupid RNG shadow quest (that doesnt rotate), RE:START is giving out good kafra shop stuff like rideword hat and enriched ores for free.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 08:04 AM

Would be nice if some cashshop items can be obtained through in-game approaches, such as BMX3 and HE Bubble Gum from Merry Badger exchange, like how ppls can farm Tokens of Siegfred this way.

#7 Vhaaaaan

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 05:55 AM

I support this!

Hmm, I think you should also promote this post in Community Chat. Majority of people visit that section than here.

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 02:01 PM

Fuyuki Vendas Ideas are too good to be true :p_devil:

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 04:04 PM

i'm not 100% sure i support it, i mean i want it but there are things i concern about. might ruin the boxters business

edit:

my two cents, and i'm not saying this because i want to revive woe nor to rain on your parade. been thinking about gd's having ocp box drops too, might just be because iv'e only been exposed to it lately. if we get ocp's as drops in gd the benefits would be;

less likely or no bots at all, gd's are pvp areas too. and said guilds with access will be easy to see who bots inside and stuff. it takes effort to capture a whole realm for bot purposes, unless 2-3 guilds plan on doing that.
we get to revive gd wars as well as woe because now purpose is made.
what happens to pvm players? well the thing is, we have it in cash shop, so it's not that it isn't accessible. or if we have a pvm method that isn't too complex that would also be nice
should i worry about boxter being abused? nope, cause if it's the boxes themselves that drops then it's put into another rng test. plus the exclusivity of said obtaining method makes it more controllable.

we don't want it to be too rewarding as well, this is ocp's afterall. factors taken into consideration would be

if it's in the nature of counts make it insanely high, possibly 2-2.5k or higher idk the patience of ro players. i assume WP has this info for profiling cause i can say it would probably be party camped.
if it's a monster drop, per mob % chance (maybe 0.5%, 1% assuming people use gums? or lower), cause some are easy to kill some are not.
which boxes goes where.
is this even possible.

Edited by DarkOrinus, 23 January 2018 - 04:35 PM.

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 08:53 PM

bot won't benefit on that bio5 hunt. people with lots of alts will. :heh:

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 01:46 AM

A brownie point bag giving random small~medium amounts of points, to drop when certain mvps are killed is ok i guess.

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 02:44 AM

bot won't benefit on that bio5 hunt. people with lots of alts will.

don't get me wrong, imma just bring justice to my conclusions. the scenario goes like

do easy tasks for your preferred ocp box > ez boxes from boxter

in which bots will feast over if they get a window of opportunity

Edited by DarkOrinus, 25 January 2018 - 02:55 AM.

#13 layupka

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 03:18 AM

you my friend have a lot of knowledge in this game. you are a dedicated player. awesome.. great i hope it will goes that way i want my mobs scarf and cylindrical head.

#14 fuyukikun

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 07:31 AM

A brownie point bag giving random small~medium amounts of points, to drop when certain mvps are killed is ok i guess.

Good idea, but brownie points is not used anymore.

I always think how to make killing champion monster become more rewarding.

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 08:01 AM

isn't boxter still a thing?

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 08:27 AM

she's been replaced with giving her 2 of the same items from a specific ocp to get 1 box of that specific ocp.

but it adds to the thought that it may at least be a possible solution or if we could get them both options, since it already had a background to such. i kinda like the simplicity. you got your hunting as well as making it less complex. card drops are kinda meh for this considering people don't even have time to run anymore lol let alone make them grind.

another thought, if you want limits, could also put cooldowns on recieving ocp's efficiently on a daily basis (reduce spamming). could compare to those daily repeatables other mmo's have

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 04:59 AM

that is why i said in OP.

The ingame content is harder to get. If you want to get it instantly, just do cash shop gambling.

The point of my thread is to make the cash exclusive gears should be accessible by anyone. How easy to be accessed is different story, coz we know WP needs money too.

#18 fuyukikun

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 06:09 PM

updated list

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Posted 27 January 2018 - 10:43 AM

Is that working now ? Analyze eye costume ? Does that make you farm shadow items ?

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Posted 28 January 2018 - 02:33 AM

Not yet

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Posted 28 January 2018 - 08:08 AM

Really good idea but you know that's not going to happen

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Posted 28 January 2018 - 05:44 PM

Negleclatti confirmed

Good luck fuyu, but this server have no future. Let us just hope for Ragnarok Zero to come for us fast. While this i'll keep my self in bRO.

Edited by Ethanasael, 28 January 2018 - 05:45 PM.