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#51 layupka

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 12:35 AM

i like the idea of being 1., say i need something but i wait for weeks or month or nothing at all in my server thor. just to have that thing i want., i want many people playing to ease my needs and reduce hunting due to real life work. make it again an MMORPG and not RPG only.. it is hard to buy and sell if you have no one to deal with.
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Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:27 AM

server will explode, idro alone got more than 10k players :heh:


10k? are you sure it's a real number? I know a couple of people that plays idRO and they say it is full of bots. By any chance you are talking about the new renewal server?
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#53 Scuba

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 05:10 AM

Total average CCU for official RO servers in 2016 was like 30k worldwide.

 

Not factoring in bots, of course.


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#54 Ecologist

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 05:30 AM

A lot of gears went up in prices even RWH, HBP and FAW. This can't be just simple inflation. Is there some sort of mass exodus from other servers? Looking at ragial prices, a lot of items almost doubled in price in just a week or two.

 

Because, it is how you see things. Try to look at it in a different way. For example, if you're trying to wait and snipe "below average" HBP and unfortunately it doesn't go down then your patience should be your last option. Open your own pub in eden and try to wait... Im pretty confident you will get what you want. Back in 2013 it's already like that. IT'S A CHAIN REACTION. It will start with one guy who will vend item (ex.hbp) priced at 200m. While some vending at 100m to 130m. Everything that is under the guy's price will be sold obviously until it's gone. Then the 200m will come in play and the chain reaction of high ballers will join that play. And someone will push it hard putting 30m+ on top of that 200m. Clearly the 200m will be sold. I also did that last year, mob priced at 1.6B to 2B. I opened pub for 2.5B then wait. Mob priced below me get sold very fast. I waited about 2 to 3 weeks. Then here comes the other player matching my 2.5B. I went offline to see if someone will go higher than 2.5B plus "making it look like i sold it" Guess what, the other player took advantage of it making it 2.6B. And i went online again with the same price "2.5B" and sold it in a few hours. Until I myself push it a little harder selling my 4 remaining mobs at 3B each and they're all gone now. That is a chain reaction.

 

Just ignore those high ballers and get your own pub, put your own price. I'm sure someone will enter your pub and become a teacher in an instant and most probably giving you pieces of advice like they know everything. LOL. Just ignore them as well "-_-*ng bastards". Just wait and you will get it. Simple as that. The best thing you can do is plan ahead of time. Like if you're planning to create a gene buy everything you need. Open your pub in eden or buy in forum and wait for weeks while you're leveling it. The most common mistake you can do is "when you're buying things in a hurry".

 

For me, I dont see things going up or going down. It's the same as it is.


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 10:49 AM

Supply and Demand

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 02:33 PM

Supply and Demand

 

 

 

 

 

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You've been here in the forum for too long and you still believe that? I can even buy HBP @ 120m if i want.. It's called strategy. There's no such thing as supply and demand. lol.


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 03:13 PM

supply and demand will be met when 2 become 1. 


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 03:24 PM

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#59 JadeMountain

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 03:26 PM

I am reluntantly to write a topic regarding ' i am out of char to park my trading zeny'.  that is how bad the inflation is pushing 2.147B zeny celing per char.  I hear the rightful 'gold/silver/copper' coin system got blow up in RO2 due to abuse of glitch,  without that implement....i do not know how will RO fixed the problem


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 03:30 PM

supply and demand will be met when 2 become 1. 

 

-_-ing technicality. Whatever...


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:22 PM

how do you buy something for 120m if the people that have such thing ain't playing anymore or doesn't want to sell it?


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 04:38 PM

how do you buy something for 120m if the people that have such thing ain't playing anymore or doesn't want to sell it?

 

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 05:14 PM

Just going to bump this thread because apparently some believe Supply and Demand is a cover up to another conspiracy theory in the RO market. Pretty sure this has been said by everyone above but some people can't seem to grasp Capitalism on RO.

 

Scarcity Value is the reason why most of the Grove gears are rising in price. I'm not saying its impossible to get a clean HBP or FAW for under 200m or 400m respectively, but most sellers and distributors are either:

 

1. Long gone from the game

2. Unwilling to hoard WPE or KP to spam open boxes

3. Keep multiples of the same gear for themselves (for switching gears and alt characters)


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 05:18 PM

it's always the seller's call. not the buyer's.  :rolleyes:


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 05:45 PM

Just going to bump this thread because apparently some believe Supply and Demand is a cover up to another conspiracy theory in the RO market. Pretty sure this has been said by everyone above but some people can't seem to grasp Capitalism on RO.

 

Scarcity Value is the reason why most of the Grove gears are rising in price. I'm not saying its impossible to get a clean HBP or FAW for under 200m or 400m respectively, but most sellers and distributors are either:

 

1. Long gone from the game

2. Unwilling to hoard WPE or KP to spam open boxes

3. Keep multiples of the same gear for themselves (for switching gears and alt characters)

 

 

If you practice socialization...Guild/friendship etc. You can buy things easily. I have kp/gum supplier at 14m/100kp 6m/gum. Also a long time player but not an eden/ragial/forum seller. Some maroons are just getting technical with prices as what they see it and some of them buying things when they needed it the most. That's why they see things as unfair price. In addition to that, if they went op then sell your gears op as well.. Its logical and u will see things the same as they are. You can easily go with the flow.


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 05:50 PM

it's always the seller's call. not the buyer's.  :rolleyes:

 

Oh yeah ... then complain nothing sells because no one is buying! lol


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 06:00 PM

it's always the seller's call. not the buyer's.  :rolleyes:

 

I guess I'll have to sell my 30000 jellopies for 1m each.


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 06:11 PM

Captain anecdotal evidence is here!


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 10:25 PM

imo, if ragial didnt exist, buy and sell would still be a thing. ragial killed it when people can see everything in one search. also the history of it's price. buyers tend to say "i saw it on ragial it was X00m you are OP". and sellers always put up a store with the same or even higher price and say "this is the average price in ragial you are low balling".

 

nowadays, you can only buy and sell items that aren't in ragial e.g. 1b+/can't be vended but can be traded


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:07 PM

Don't know what you're talking about. I have 10b (in items) that I earned through buy and sell. I never had to grind a day in my casual 2 years in iRO.
 

Also, don't we all learn in grade school that average (aritmetic mean) is heavily affected by extremes? Lol. 


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:24 PM

If you practice socialization...Guild/friendship etc. You can buy things easily. I have kp/gum supplier at 14m/100kp 6m/gum. Also a long time player but not an eden/ragial/forum seller. Some maroons are just getting technical with prices as what they see it and some of them buying things when they needed it the most. That's why they see things as unfair price. In addition to that, if they went op then sell your gears op as well.. Its logical and u will see things the same as they are. You can easily go with the flow.

 

push me to the edge, all my friends are ded (lol)

 

not like some of us don't have it, most are talking about the masses. quite frankly, even part of the masses. and not everyone can be friends with said suppliers  :rice:

 

cause these suppliers would probably limit their exclusivity too. thus the argument expands, i get you but you don't really take into consideration some things lol


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Posted 07 February 2018 - 02:21 AM

If you practice socialization...Guild/friendship etc. You can buy things easily. I have kp/gum supplier at 14m/100kp 6m/gum. Also a long time player but not an eden/ragial/forum seller. Some maroons are just getting technical with prices as what they see it and some of them buying things when they needed it the most. That's why they see things as unfair price. In addition to that, if they went op then sell your gears op as well.. Its logical and u will see things the same as they are. You can easily go with the flow.

 

Just because you have direct suppliers doesn't mean everyone on RO does. Remember, this thread isn't about your social circle - it's the OP's inquiry about rising prices. I never said anything about guild, friendship or the like. If people have it, that's good for them. Unfortunately, not everyone has that advantage and some people prefer to play solo or with their own clique, hence the lack of socializing with most general players.

 

Maybe you're part of the exclusivity that DarkOrinus mentioned, which I won't fault. It may just be that the original poster isn't in any exclusive list of gear/KP/WPE distributors or sellers, hence the thread's title.


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Posted 07 February 2018 - 03:09 AM

accept the fact.... we all want the best gear.. few of us willing to pay irl $ for it. thus, dumping german White Mark (zeny) to chase food and gold (KP item)


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Posted 07 February 2018 - 03:25 AM

Just because you have direct suppliers doesn't mean everyone on RO does. Remember, this thread isn't about your social circle - it's the OP's inquiry about rising prices. I never said anything about guild, friendship or the like. If people have it, that's good for them. Unfortunately, not everyone has that advantage and some people prefer to play solo or with their own clique, hence the lack of socializing with most general players.

 

Maybe you're part of the exclusivity that DarkOrinus mentioned, which I won't fault. It may just be that the original poster isn't in any exclusive list of gear/KP/WPE distributors or sellers, hence the thread's title.

 

Then again, practice socialization. If you don't "then post another thread again" and ask, why the prices are getting high?! Then answer the same question "Its because of supply and demand blahblah"

 

Then again, strategize... Practice socialization. If your friends are dead then create a new one. If that doesn't work for you, its your problem. Post another thread and ask again. Why the prices are getting high?

 

Then again, go with the flow. If prices are getting high then sell your items high. If that doesn't work for you. Post another thread and ask again. Why the prices are getting high.

 

If nothing works for you. Blame RO, Greedy sellers or maybe just blame noob buyers. If that doesn't work for you then you have an issue.


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Posted 07 February 2018 - 03:31 AM

push me to the edge, all my friends are ded (lol)

 

not like some of us don't have it, most are talking about the masses. quite frankly, even part of the masses. and not everyone can be friends with said suppliers  :rice:

 

cause these suppliers would probably limit their exclusivity too. thus the argument expands, i get you but you don't really take into consideration some things lol

 

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