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#51 evotec

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 01:35 AM

Stop crying, All of us in Asia/Australia have put up with sh!t times for years, get over it ;)

If you were not my guildy id say something rude. Have fun woeing with half our guild and 3 guilds missing completly from woe2. Its gonna be fun with empty castles I hear. Get me a bryn while im sleeping <3

I guess WP expects all the vendors to join forces and macro the castles with auto attack. Oh well.


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#52 Ryuuz0

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 01:37 AM

I dont get why u guys dont just do woe 1 time. Alot eu guilds wont play woe 2 which is sad good job warpportal not surprised that restart died after 4 months you guys got no idea how to handle a Server xddddddddddddddd made my day
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#53 Alezzia

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 01:42 AM

Good thing it's on a Friday huh?

 

Doesnt mean ppl want to wake up or stay up every week until 4am-6am in EU.

 

WoE 1 time is good, just put it on a different day or somewhere around the time WoE 1 is.


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:04 AM

What was wrong with the timeslot from the last Woe2 test?! I dont believe ur bot/vendor graph for 1 second Camp.

If you say it was low attendence you might ask yourself why? People were eager to try, but since the portals did not work for 1 hour alot of guilds left.

Its a international server, and there is times that can work for us all. This is not one of them.


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:11 AM

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You're joking, right? You couldn't even be bothered to do a chart for the current population?
The last time we had 4k people online was MONTHS ago and that was mostly bots, so what are you even basing that time on?

Why don't you just let the community decide? Put an NPC into the game like the dungeon teleport vote and have people vote on a time that way, can't be that hard. That way you're including the people who don't visit the forums, since that was a concern regarding polls. Put regular announcements about it in the game, leave it for a week and boom, there's your result.
(Additionally, that way everyone who didn't take the time to vote can't complain. Just like in real life.)

Someone in the feedback thread for the new time suggested a time that would be way better than yours just with a bit of thinking, maybe you should try that for once.

Even if you just make it 2h later than it currently is, it wouldn't be 3 or 4am for Europe and still perfectly fine for everyone else.
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#56 evotec

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:18 AM

Great answer Steph. 

+1 for a vote. 


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#57 Namrok

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:23 AM

all of us in Asia/Australia have put up with sh!t times for years, get over it 

 

 

 what a names of AU / Asian  woe guild there? plz ?

 

 

 I might be able to do the woe time, pretty sure the other 90% of my guild won't. 3-5am is a miserable time.

 

 

for our guild is  8 nolife nerds can woe in this time ,  20 ppl with real life doesnt


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:27 AM

3.5k bots 500 real players

Catniptor or whatever ur name is, check the real population. I dont think bots gonna play WoE.But this is gonna be too hard just let people vote.

But yeah whatever already tired telling you guys what to do.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:19 AM

Make the Friday time 10-12 pm and it should be tolerable.

Or, as was said multiple times, put it Sunday at the same time as Woe 1.0.

Or just change the slots around and put Woe 2.0 at the currrent 1.0 slot and 1.0 to Friday/Sunday.

Or just bundle them together in the same 2h.

Or how about after Woe 1.0 on Saturday? lol

Edited by Varcieh, 14 February 2018 - 03:20 AM.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:24 AM

Oh god.

 

You obviously can not use that Graphic to justify your decision, since the data seem to be way off, and for the fact that WoE time and action time strongly correlate with one another.

 

Consider this:

 

(Guild leaders please chip in if I am mistaken here)

 

-DW (35-40 players) - BR

-SH (40-50 players) - BR

-Valhalla( 45-55 players)- ???

-SNL( 45-55 Players)- NA>AUS>EU

-Sidequest (15-20 players??)- Mostly EU/US

-YumYum (15-20 Players??)- RU

-Melody( 10-15 players) - EU

-24/7(30-40 players) - EU

-Epiphany(30 players?)-  No data.

-Rebellion(30 players?)- PH?

-Valkyrie (10-20 players)- US/ EU

-Pink Martini(20-30 Players) - EU/US/BR

 

So:

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With this in mind:

 

Spoiler

 

 

Now all you have to do, is put this options for a 3 round vote, and you´ll have your -_- answer.

 

You are welcome.

 

EDIT: Added All suggested guilds.

EDIT2: Thanks VMod-Perfect. If you could also add the table I linked under the Guild infos, would be great.


Edited by OrionSlayeer, 14 February 2018 - 10:33 AM.
Mod Edit: Fixed image, added in spoiler tag. Is this all right?

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#61 Aromat

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:44 AM

You're joking, right? You couldn't even be bothered to do a chart for the current population?
The last time we had 4k people online was MONTHS ago and that was mostly bots, so what are you even basing that time on?

Why don't you just let the community decide? Put an NPC into the game like the dungeon teleport vote and have people vote on a time that way, can't be that hard. That way you're including the people who don't visit the forums, since that was a concern regarding polls. Put regular announcements about it in the game, leave it for a week and boom, there's your result.
(Additionally, that way everyone who didn't take the time to vote can't complain. Just like in real life.)

Someone in the feedback thread for the new time suggested a time that would be way better than yours just with a bit of thinking, maybe you should try that for once.

Even if you just make it 2h later than it currently is, it wouldn't be 3 or 4am for Europe and still perfectly fine for everyone else.


i read somewhere in the login server are just the player which switched the map the last 1h... so maybe the real player amount is rly 4k and these 2.5k "player" more then the login server says just dont switch the map :)
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#62 Namrok

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:44 AM

Put an NPC into the game like the dungeon teleport vote and have people vote on a time that way, can't be that hard. That way you're including the people who don't visit the forums, since that was a concern regarding polls. Put regular announcements about it in the game, leave it for a week and boom, there's your result.

 

 

and random asian bot-farmer vote 999999 time from his alts?  and it decides a destiny of woe guilds? ?  no thx

guild leaders (woe guilds) can speak out from they guild, it not very lot ppl ~20ppl

 

 

@WPteam  - see a OrionSlayer Table,  he did more than you to choose best woe-time for all !!!111

https://imgur.com/6eTSKFC

 

 

 

-DW and SU are BR guilds and make up at least 80 players each WoE

-Valhalla has 40 players and the majority from the US.

-SNL has 45-55 and is very mixed as far as I know, but mainly US (?)

-YumYum is Russian

-Sidequest is US I guess (?).

 

 

also

24/7 - deuch / eu

melody - deuch

epiphany - idk, br/international?

valkyrie - us/eu

rebellion - ph / international

 

....

 


Edited by Namrok, 14 February 2018 - 03:50 AM.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:50 AM

Oh god.

 

@WP, every time you throw this kind of bull-_- on us, I can´t help but think you guys are way under qualified to do your job. The stupidity of this decisions is stroke inducing.

 

You obviously can not use that Graphic to justify your decision, since the data seem to be way off, and for the fact that WoE time and action time strongly correlate with one another.

 

Maybe your line of though was: "Only people in Asia are still buying WP, let´s try to please them!" And then you give us this bull-_- argumentation?

 

Here´s me doing your job ok?

 

Consider this:

 

(Guild leaders please chip in if I am mistaken here)

 

-DW and SU are BR guilds and make up at least 80 players each WoE

-Valhalla has 40 players and the majority from the US.

-SNL has 45-55 and is very mixed as far as I know, but mainly US (?)

-YumYum is Russian

-Sidequest is US I guess (?).

 

With this in mind:

 

https://imgur.com/6eTSKFC

 

 

Now all you have to do, is put this options for a 3 round vote, and you´ll have your -_- answer.

 

You are welcome.

 

EDIT 1231231: Can´t make the picture show on the forum. VMOD,CMOD,HMOD please help?

 

Good job, mate.

This is how those kind of decisions have to be made.

 

Also, 24/7 - German (EU).


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 03:55 AM

@Orion - great table, well done! I'd personally say anything as early as 6am UK time would be "reasonable", so that would open up a few more options.

(Quick correction: SQ has people from 4 continents, but most are Us/EU /no1)

@Namrok - regarding a vote: they could make it once per acc with a lvl70 or higher requirement to limit abuse, for example.

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#65 Namrok

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:08 AM

once per acc with a lvl70 or higher requirement to limit abuse, for example. 

 

 

 well.. ok  99lvl only maybe

 but... how many inactive 99 knights do you have in guild XD?

 

 


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:13 AM

well.. ok 99lvl only maybe
but... how many inactive 99 knights do you have in guild XD?


None, because I kick inactives regularly XD

But in all seriousness, how many people would get chars to 70+ just to vote on a WoE time?
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:15 AM

Realistic feedback; This WoE time cuts into my grinding time, fix it now

But again the real issue is. Why isnt warm cat muffler accessible, yet airbud is accessible to all 1 day after a contest. Stick to the real warm fuzzy issues ppl

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:39 AM

Guys, what about Roughnecks? Did they quit?


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:40 AM

how many people would get chars to 70+ just to vote on a WoE time? 

 

 

 100+ from any guild ?))

 

how you think how much chars have a random botfarm\zenysellers ?

 they can broke this poll  like a camp-online-statistic  in one minute XDXD


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:55 AM

Thanks for finally updating WSS, Alcohol and Ores on Raffler, but what's up with this WoE time? This chart counting afk merchants and bots is a very bad joke.

Plus at least half, if not most people, are fully geared since ages ago and only log for WoE because there's nothing else to do...

Please see the chart a few posts ahead of this... plus we already have a time that work, i.e. 1.0, why not use the same time on Sunday as many have suggested?

@Orion
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 05:00 AM

100+ from any guild ?))

how you think how much chars have a random botfarm\zenysellers ?
they can broke this poll like a camp-online-statistic in one minute XDXD


Botfarms and zenysellers don't care about the WoE time though :P

If they really wanted to do a poll, they could, let's be real. It would just take more effort than they're willing to put in, most likely.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 05:15 AM

Are you SERIOUSLY that ignorant to post a chart showing 5K players? Wow. Just... Wow.

 

I'm dying of laughter here. 


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 05:33 AM

I'm dying of laughter here. 

 

 

 

 

 its not funny. its a bad joke T_T


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 05:33 AM

So instead of removing the ENTIRE euro playerbase from WoE and the second strongest WoE guild on the server in 24/7, would there be an opposition to moving it forward another 2 hours? So 9-11 pst? Or 4 hours even? As a murican on a Friday night I’m pretty sure staying up for a 1am WoE time isn’t a big deal.

This will be a HUGE mistake if not tweaked slightly...
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 05:34 AM

Things like this would not be happening if you did not ignore my skype messages and pm's here on the forums trying to get you into the discussions with all of the guild leaders. You guys keep acting like you know better than us how this game works and whats best for it which is why you keep making these dumb decisions.


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