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[WarlockFier]

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Thanks Soup. Poor Cinnamod is almost bald. :v 

[NickMaison]

put a 3min cooldown timer after respawning with token, if player dies within the 3min mark the respawn button will not appear until the timer expires, an icon should appear on the right side of the screen to indicate the timer.

 

you can also make it so that different maps have different cooldown time so that maps like bio5 with prevalent spam abuse have 5mins or more cd time than ogh or hazy

 

 

[Nirvanna21]

put a 3min cooldown timer after respawning with token, if player dies within the 3min mark the respawn button will not appear until the timer expires, an icon should appear on the right side of the screen to indicate the timer.

 

you can also make it so that different maps have different cooldown time so that maps like bio5 with prevalent spam abuse have 5mins or more cd time than ogh or hazy

 

You can't, this has been discussed many times as a good solution but literally cannot be implemented.

[DarkOrinus]

i thought i read over another thread about eve natalia reviving some loots from mvps as tradable goods for essentials? thats increasing their loot style good enough for me

and about how i need much more than 10, 20 rather. it isnt because im bad, ive thought anout it my sitch (i use over 30 in 1-2 hours, im not reeally the best geared and best player) as well as others who would probably grind every instance out there (we have tons) giving them at least 1-2 tokens to revive themselves if lag strikes or if other unfortunate events happen. might be just me evening out my situation and others' situation

bottomline sorry for being weak and understanding of others at the same time

[Nirvanna21]

i thought i read over another thread about eve natalia reviving some loots from mvps as tradable goods for essentials? thats increasing their loot style good enough for me

and about how i need much more than 10, 20 rather. it isnt because im bad, ive thought anout it my sitch (i use over 30 in 1-2 hours, im not reeally the best geared and best player) as well as others who would probably grind every instance out there (we have tons) giving them at least 1-2 tokens to revive themselves if lag strikes or if other unfortunate events happen. might be just me evening out my situation and others' situation

bottomline sorry for being weak and understanding of others at the same time

 

I did try posting some minor changes for it, to expand the range of certs and other rewards, but who knows if it will get looked into.

[DarkOrinus]

well they did it with tokens, and they have been delivering a bit for sometime now. so it's not like it's impossible

[KriticalAssassin]

I'm still lol'ing at the people who can't do math saying that it makes it unfair for non vip even though they can use mini-vip to get them.

Cause apparently 16 emb = 30 tokens over 3 days is worse than 30 emb = 30 tokens with the old method.

Idk why they are changing some of the other redemptions though. Maybe the nerf to KvM badge exchange will get people interested in doing seal quests again though, noone does them anymore, and seals still need to be rolled.

[Nirvanna21]

well they did it with tokens, and they have been delivering a bit for sometime now. so it's not like it's impossible

 

This is what I proposed a little while back,

 

Spoiler

These are my proposed changes for Eve Natalia. Please note, I would suggest making the changes AFTER Hardmode ET is implemented, because ideally the other goal is to prevent ET being done three times per character via the current abusive methods.

 

The following items give 3 random Safe to 7 Certificates:

• Ring of Flame Lord, Ring of Resonance, Valkyrie Armor

 

The following items give 2 random Safe to 7 Certificates:

• Dark Bacilium, Diabolus Robe, Diablous Armor, Diabolus Boots, Hurricane Fury, Nidhoggur's Shadow Garb, Tae Goo Lyeon, Thorn Staff of Darkness, Twin Edge of Naght Sieger (Blue), Twin Edge of Naght Sieger (Red)

 

The following items give 1 random Safe to 7 Certificate:

• Spiritual Ring, Alca Bringer, Two-Handed Chrome Metal Sword, Mystic Bow, Hunting Spear, Bloodied Shackle Ball, Variant Shoes, Ledger of Death, Bison Horn

 

The following items give 2 Treasure Box or 3 Yggdrasil Berry or 5 Yggdrasil Seed:

• Valkyrian Manteau, Valkyrian Shoes, Nagan, Morpheus's Bracelet, Morpheus's Ring, Vesper Core 01, Vesper Core 02, Vesper Core 03, Vesper Core 04, Morrigane's Pendant, Morrigane's Belt, Morrigane's Manteau, Survivor's Manteau, Holy Stick, Flame Manteau of Naght Sieger

 

Would love additional input!

 

-Mike

[alvehu]

btw a ro player suggest to make a special thread where to post +1 to all those who wants the old merry badger npc... i think this could help GM understand how many active ppl want it .... and i think that could works, much fair for all.

[Toxn]

I'm confused, who are the GMs listening to? man, I wish the GMs would listen to what we had to say. Maybe then WoE could have been fixed 4 years ago or maybe we could have gotten a load of bug fixes by now.


See thats where I'm confused, apparently we already did according to some, yet here we are, still having a dead woe and so many bugs so many years later.

Edited by VModSoup, 15 February 2018 - 05:42 PM.
double post merged due to deleted posts

[DarkOrinus]

This is what I proposed a little while back,

Spoiler

These are my proposed changes for Eve Natalia. Please note, I would suggest making the changes AFTER Hardmode ET is implemented, because ideally the other goal is to prevent ET being done three times per character via the current abusive methods.

The following items give 3 random Safe to 7 Certificates:

• Ring of Flame Lord, Ring of Resonance, Valkyrie Armor

The following items give 2 random Safe to 7 Certificates:

• Dark Bacilium, Diabolus Robe, Diablous Armor, Diabolus Boots, Hurricane Fury, Nidhoggur's Shadow Garb, Tae Goo Lyeon, Thorn Staff of Darkness, Twin Edge of Naght Sieger (Blue), Twin Edge of Naght Sieger (Red)

The following items give 1 random Safe to 7 Certificate:

• Spiritual Ring, Alca Bringer, Two-Handed Chrome Metal Sword, Mystic Bow, Hunting Spear, Bloodied Shackle Ball, Variant Shoes, Ledger of Death, Bison Horn

The following items give 2 Treasure Box or 3 Yggdrasil Berry or 5 Yggdrasil Seed:

• Valkyrian Manteau, Valkyrian Shoes, Nagan, Morpheus's Bracelet, Morpheus's Ring, Vesper Core 01, Vesper Core 02, Vesper Core 03, Vesper Core 04, Morrigane's Pendant, Morrigane's Belt, Morrigane's Manteau, Survivor's Manteau, Holy Stick, Flame Manteau of Naght Sieger

Would love additional input!

-Mike

i did propose something of the like as well at our proposals thread. some that revives other daily instances, but of course they are also subject to change

i had a feeling the team had their hands full at the time i posted it so i stopped bumping it, might start to bump it again or maybe just give yours my inputs


To be very honest, the GM's are quite fond of listening to constructive feedbacks. But only some people can give it to em, and only some people whom they can trust (not that i have problems with GM decisions) but the thing is we did a have tiny bit of inequality.

First case, of all the token issues why solve it now?

Second case, the first few pages of the Tokens. thread showed a w/e opinion if it does get removed

Third case, this was rather a faster than usual fix than most upsetting possible fixes we would have liked

Although i'll be up front, the GM's did nothing wrong. It was rather, possibly failed sampling of a wide representation of the community. I would push for a voting of whoever gets to be in touch with the GM's upon all our matters but considering issues have happened before i don't think it's gonna be a possibility anytime soon

Edited by VModSoup, 15 February 2018 - 05:50 PM.

[Erydanos]

 

Further Edits:

• We found that we have an event version of the Token of Siegfried to use for Merry Badger. Due to this Kafra Stacker will still be able to stack Kafra Shop versions of Tokens of Siegfried.
• Discussions topics for reviewing these changes in March
  • ​Character binding VIP Tokens of Siegfried
  • Removing the character level requirement (Much more friendly to new players and characters) (Requires Character Binding)
  • Removing Weight from VIP Tokens of Siegfried (Requires Character Binding)
  • Increasing the Duration of Mini VIP Tokens of Siegfried to 16-24 hrs (Requires Character Binding)

 

 

I think is good we have this 'event' version Tokens that way normal Tokens aren't affected.

 

One thing I wonder, as some players have pointed it out (the ones still being constructive), the EXP/DROP buffs are a neat idea but potentially troublesome in practice, as you can't use them when you might need them most. Of course there's no problem if you're doing Gramps TI or Jitterbug but for other instances you have to go move through maps, spending valuable buff time. (Examples: ET, Dimensional Gap instances, Bakonawa, Nidhogurr's Shadow...)

 

So! What some players have proposed is to turn the buff into a character/account bound item to use when needed (just like the Old BM we get from registering at Eden Group), I think this idea is quite good but I have some concerns regarding it's implementation:

 

• Does iRO need kRO to create these new items? Or could iRO make them itself?
• How long would it take to implement them? (obviously if iRO can make them it would be faster than waiting for kRO)

Guess that's all concerning that particular Badger reward....

 

Concerning other rewards, I think weekly special should stay, mainly for the useful mats.  And no...no Yggdrasil Leaves please, maybe Yggdrasil Berries or something better, of course, requiring more EMB's for it.

[Ashuckel]

the reason why this new token could've been made , and the changes relatively quick, is because all of this can be done on iRO's end. Anything that requires simply a new item created for a rental version or anything that kRO has to do, will take from months to eternity to be acomplished.

[DarkOrinus]

it was still failed sampling in the end though, considering the uproar

[MikaKuchiki]

Why don't keep the old way of getting token and make it limited to carry? Even i said i can died during lag, i believe i never use more than 5 a day. 10 is a good amount. This "fix" just make it worse and confusing. Now which one is our old token and which one is expired token and when will it expired... will it expired during instance....pfttt...
And it's not fix the token spam at all, if it's the main cause why all of this stupid drama happened

Edited by MikaKuchiki, 15 February 2018 - 05:18 PM.

[alvehu]

Why don't keep the old way of getting token and make it limited to carry? Even i said i can died during lag, i believe i never use more than 5 a day. 10 is a good amount. This "fix" just make it worse and confusing. Now which one is our old token and which one is expired token and when will it expired... will it expired during instance....pfttt...
And it's not fix the token spam at all, if it's the main cause why all of this stupid drama happened

+1 to this !! keep the old way and get a limit of carry

[MikaKuchiki]

This issue start with a report of someone was spam tokens right? Or am i wrong?

[VModMango]

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Edited by VModSoup, 15 February 2018 - 05:51 PM.