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#1 Feuer

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 01:10 AM

 

First Death took exactly 1.68 seconds. That's faster than an average stun.

Second Death took 0.64 seconds. That's 640 milliseconds. That's shorter than someone casting + instantly breaking sleep. It's not even a 1 second stun.
 
And guess what, that's a 250 Bourge with Dmg Reduction, and a 2pc pvp 2pc exalted mix set with mid-grade refines.
 
FIX YOUR GAME BRO. SERIOUZ. Jesus christ. 
 
 

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#2 Elovin

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 08:07 AM

Both times you got hit by a runed scout and a runed bourg at the same time.The only thing which is broken is that u cant always properly see the damage on ur hp bar above your head. That happens alot to me also..full hp bar and then sudden death.

I think you underestimate the damage of runed chars or overestimate your own char. Dont forget the dots btw...

 


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 09:07 AM

ye, its not just the scout, the bourgs aoes can easily reach you and is doing majority of the dmg...trust me 


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 09:07 AM

You are taking canon bourg runed damage basically single target on top of a runed scout on a DEALER

Runes no runes, gears no gears. Doesnt matter a dealer aint surviving that (maybe a cleric could other than that... <snip>)

 

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 09:13 AM

if you play a dealer class, dying is part of it, its the true glass cannon of the game.


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#6 Elovin

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 09:58 AM

Actually the bourgs aoe is killing him in the first scenario.

In the second its dots and an almost same timed skill of scout and bourg.

 

I dont know what to say to that Knight botting thing...its not like you can blame one clan doing this lol

Rigging..well i already said so, i dont blame those people anymore..the game is broken and i blame the staff for it since they dont fix the crashes...and its also not only one clan you can accuse

 

I dont know why its important that the arti got banned but he didnt get banned for killing you in two animations


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 10:05 AM

You're in the same clan that I am talking about, you're going to defend it.

 

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as for him dying to multiple combinations of skills, sure.

But I'm guaranteeing that if he didn't have his system chat blocked off, you'd be able to see the amount of skills he's receiving per user. It's one of the easiest ways to tell if somebody is attacking you while on WPE or not. I can already tell his last death was by Triple shot, a grenade, and launcher smash into a single animation display of damage.

 

 

 

Elovin, do me a favor, and check out the system chat message(s) that are appearing when I am attacked by that artisan in that video.

Mind telling me why packet(s) ... I mean game messages are being delayed to me? As I died, you can slow the video down and see that I am hit with a bunch of different skills at once before my buffs are removed in game system chat before I am dead. Mind you the user only did one auto attack animation, and it's the only damage that shows as it's supposed to, a 1.8k auto attack.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 10:11 AM

5? Pfff naive i can make 50 into 1 come at me ( note the irony.)

seriously ur crying just ... LOL
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Posted 07 March 2018 - 10:46 AM

Ya know...

 

The enitre point of this thread, is this.

 

Even if someone ran into a fully runed, fully passives, fully clan passived, max refined person, while wearing nothing but reinforced with mid tier refines and clan passives, THEY SHOULDN'T BE DYING IN .64 SECONDS.

 

Fix the power gap, fix the power creep, fix the god damned OP classes who are ruining this once great and fun game, or FIRE GENESIS and get someone who isn't scared to SPEAK in public and who knows how to fix the things THEY BROKE. 

 

As for all this rigging crap, Take it out of my thread or stfu. I'm tired of playing these pedantic blame games and I'm tired of you guys always dragging the posts off-topic giving the staff an excuse to not reply. Stop making these serious threads a pile of burning garbage, salt and poison. 


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:37 AM

Feuer is right. Dying in .64 seconds isn't the way that PvP should be. I don't understand where the challenge is or where the fun is in that.

 

It's a shame. I've been checking back on the forums every couple of months, catching up on the posts and changes. But I haven't seen anything change for a long time. I check back hoping for a reason to log into the game again but everything just screams 'stay away'.

 

I see no vision for the future of this game like other games would show, 'whats coming'. I see no communication from CM's/ Developers. It's just a real shame because this game has so much potential. I constantly see people like Feuer, Phish posting suggestions but nothing ever comes of their good ideas. People are quick to think these posts are to just whine but actually are here so that action can be taken from the feedback and open up a communication line to the community and Genesis.

 

There would be a day that at least Leonis would respond, encourage feedback and take what was being said and adapt something that could be implemented. He would cast some vision of what is to come. It just looks like the current developer has given up, and no wonder most people say that game is dying. If it was any other company, they would be right there, reassuring your customers, casting vision. I see nothing here but uncertainty.

 

I'm not bad mouthing the game, I love the game, I want it to flourish, I want to play. But I need to see the basics fixed, a stable system and vision for the game.

 

More to the point. PvP is suppose to challenge the individual, think about how to get out of a certain situation, be strategic and not spamming. We need time to think about survivability in a situation but before you blink, you are dead... I don't understand how that is rewarding and fun?

 

 


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 12:32 PM

I 100% agree with  feuer on this topic  

 

and as for someone trying to blame one clan for something Like...................... 

 

Just stop cause your clan aint no saints ether 


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 01:09 PM

There is so many things wrong with this game, and accusing an entire clan is far to reached snuwfer.

I agree with the rest your being hypocritical right now because you have done the exact same things, and its not even part of the topic discussion :p_sleep:

 

As for the pvp part of the game, its fun but alot of things need to change.

For starters the damage is 40% now, its way to much and should be something like 20-30% due to many factors such as DoT crits (Where are the Heal crits?)

The statbuffs need to be reduced again, especially now with the new Beryl 10 gems statbuffers will make you hit that damagecap ezpz.

Damage is not showing properly at times, HP bar has a life of its own, and its freaking possible too cast multiple attacks in the same animation  :p_swt:

lots of classes that aren't being played, because they just sack atm.

and a number of other things that should be implemented, like diminishing returns for taunts and others type of CC's whether it being soft of hard!

 

 


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 02:51 PM

If I'm not wrong, it happens on PVM as well.

Instant death ! from 100% hp then BOOOOM death !


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:05 PM

bring back the accurate "choppy" hp bar! 


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:28 PM

Well this thread is going to get locked but I guess I should post before it happens.

 

 

In the 2nd clip Yojia hits you with phoenix arrow but the latency doesn't causes  your hp not to drop from it right away (it shows it as a miss but you can see Yojia getting crit from your reflect aura for 863 damage). ClusterSlave also hits you with something right after, (looks like a grenade buts its hard to tell) plus the dot damage from phonix arrow and Yojia still attacking you. 

 

So you got hit by probably 3 skills including 1 dot by 2 fully geared/runed chars at the same time while playing an ungeared char with horrible survival. So... it's not a surprise.

 

 

 

I will say though, that pvp is incredibly unforgiving for returning players which happen to be ungeared, and even more so for new players which don't have gear, clan passives and or IM/valor passives(potentially), and lastly experience in pvp. 

 

When I returned in April I still had some decent gear/passives, and experience from playing pvp through the many eras in Rose throughout the years. I did however not have clan passives for a long time and I have to say I had never felt weaker in this game since when union wars first came out in 2008 and I was still only a level 170. Anyway, my point is if it was that bad for me it's absolutely unplayable for a new player that wanted to get involved with it. 

 

Obviously there are alot of issues with pvp at the moment: part of it is due to class balance, part of it is due to the massive power gap between a fully geared/runed character and a newcomer, and part of it is due to the crashing in large groups. The current system has the best potential of any other eras but it still needs some tweaking.

 

 

Also another thing to mention.... Dealers are honestly the worst class to try to get into pvp with/gear first. They have too many weakness and dieing non stop will destroy your sanity. That isn't to say there are the worst classes; they just need actual good gear and runes to compete.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 04:23 PM

While we do appreciate the feedback given regarding PvP, due to the direction this topic has taken it has been locked. Please remember not to call out other players on the forums. If you need to report any suspicious activity/ ill mannered behavior make sure to send a ticket to the Support Team so that it can be investigated! 

 

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