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[asperatus]

The evil face of the obscenity [1]

 
Special effects

(1) Int + 3 additional,  ignored Mdef 15% of all races. every 18 pure STR

(2) Luk + 3, complete avoidance +1, every 18 pure AGI
(3)  Dex + 3, casting time -1% every 18 pure Vit
(4) Str + 3, skill delay - 1% every 18 pure INT
(5) Vit + 3, MaxHP + 1% every 18 pure DEX
(6) Agi + 3, Def 15% of all tribes every 18 pure Luk

 

Equipment: Accessory

Applicable Job: All occupations

 

Seems pretty nice. With 90 STR one can get 75% bypass, the rest can be covered by enchant on vicious rod. 108 STR provides 90% bypass, which should be fine for content, I dont think going 126 STR is worth it.

 

Assuming 108 STR 103 INT 130 79 vit: 

STR provides us 18 INT for 129 total 

VIT provides 12 DEX for 138 total

DEX provides 21 VIT for 100 total

 

Basically, it provides a hefty stat boost for instacast in addition to hp bonus and 90% mdef bypass

However, it takes accesory slot. For varetyr sorcerer it  isnt worth it, since mdef bypass loses its value and cooldown reduction for varetyr is way better than stats.Very nice for pororoca set tho

Furthermore, not being able to use double spirit king ring means losing cooldown reduction and damage bonus on DD and Grave

 

Honestly, I'm not sure what to feel about it :v

I don't play warlock so IDK  about its value for them

[fenrir99]

Now combo it with the MATK version of Seraphim of Seraphone (MATK for STR points, but I don't have the item desc)

[Ashuckel]

you can only use one, on the right accessory slot. (so either magician gloves or that)

its nice for ppl who have vespers :v

it wont be a "budget" mdef bypass either because it is super good for other classes, unless it comes out abnormaly common,it's price will be quite up there.

[asperatus]

Now combo it with the MATK version of Seraphim of Seraphone (MATK for STR points, but I don't have the item desc)

 

Hmm, can't find its description anywhere

 

you can only use one, on the right accessory slot. (so either magician gloves or that)

 

Isn't Evil face just straight out better than Magician's glove? But yeah, definitely not a budget option

Edited by asperatus, 08 March 2018 - 08:19 AM.

[Ashuckel]

the str stat can screw up some builds and their stat distribution. If you can work around that, yeah its better

[Zayaan]

Assuming 108 STR 103 INT 130 Dex 79 vit: 

STR provides us 18 INT for 129 total 

VIT provides 12 DEX for 138 total

DEX provides 21 VIT for 100 total

 

 

You would be missing a MAtk bonus from Mob Scarf with that build.

 

I'd do: 108 Str, 20 Agi, 70 Vit, 120 Int, 120 Dex, 3 Luk

 

Contrary to popular belief, you don't need exactly 100 Vit under Renewal mechanics. Resistance bonuses from level difference is often times enough to reach Stun immunity, and even if that weren't the case, there isn't much reason to be concerned about Stun outside of Bio5.

Edited by Zayaan, 08 March 2018 - 09:19 AM.

[Ashuckel]

and even not counting the level difference, the sheer amount of stats you get from gears, job bonus and foods/buffs is often enough to pump your vit by 20~30 points. Most my (non HP scaling)classes have been sitting at 70~80 base vit, unless i want it to benefit from a specific gear/effect.

[asperatus]

Hmm, that's right, I forgot about Mob's requirements

 

108 Str,  72 Vit, 114 Int, 126 Dex

Dex from vit: 12, Int from str: 18 for 132 final INT and 138 final dex 

Base int + dex = 240, so just enough for mob 

 

Still, I can't really find practical usage for this item on sorcerer. Varetyr doesnt need mdef bypass and cooldown on SKR is better than some stats, DD and EG are probably better with SKR too (less cd = more hits = more reliable runaway procs). This leaves waterball on bosses, but let's face it = how many sorcs have access to mvp card that provides waterball?

 

[YangeWenli]

Dual dagger magic oboro,Magic doram,Ado/ME AB,caster shadow chaser could enjoy this

Edited by YangeWenli, 08 March 2018 - 10:54 AM.

[Ashuckel]

on Oboro its not that simple. Mdef bypass is awesome sure, since you dont really have sources of this as a ninja, but getting 126 str (getting any less is not worth it) while maintaining the cast speed aspd and matk is not that easym

[LordYggdrasill]

Hmm, that's right, I forgot about Mob's requirements

 

108 Str,  72 Vit, 114 Int, 126 Dex

Dex from vit: 12, Int from str: 18 for 132 final INT and 138 final dex 

Base int + dex = 240, so just enough for mob 

 

Still, I can't really find practical usage for this item on sorcerer. Varetyr doesnt need mdef bypass and cooldown on SKR is better than some stats, DD and EG are probably better with SKR too (less cd = more hits = more reliable runaway procs). This leaves waterball on bosses, but let's face it = how many sorcs have access to mvp card that provides waterball?

 

Why 114 INT, 126 Dex rather than 120 INT/120 DEX? The former eats up more stats points, and the 1% Max HP gain is negligible. Id put the available points on another stats instead of going up beyond 120 DEX.

[TothWL]

I had 2 builds planned for this item when it comes to bRO, one had a mob scarf stat distribution and the other hadn't.

 

Keep in mind I only play PVE and have access to a LOT of MVP cards to get 100% Mdef P or 70% delay reduction, etc etc.

 

https://calc.irowiki...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

I chose agi over vit because :

1 - I value agi more.
2 - Vit gets buffed up by 120 dex, agi doesn't since luk is the worst stat to get.

3 - In bRO magic gloves only gives 20% mdef reduction, but we can wear 2 (still -_- but better than nothing), so from 20% to 75% it's a much better deal but in return you must break your build because outside of this scenario str is totally useless for PVE considering you don't need the weight limit increase.

 

The other build isn't interesting for iRO and thinking back on it now, it's straight up inferior

[asperatus]

Why 114 INT, 126 Dex rather than 120 INT/120 DEX? The former eats up more stats points, and the 1% Max HP gain is negligible. Id put the available points on another stats instead of going up beyond 120 DEX.

 

Dex still counts toward instacast so I want it high regardless
 

[NekoCaptainNoob]

Maybe build for this item would be like 

Str 90

Agi 35  *

Vit 90 
Dex 120
Int 120
Luk 2  *

 

* Or  Agi 2  Luk  35
 

 

Int Dex must be both 120 for Mob Scarf .....

[Ashuckel]

with 108 str you can complement the mdef pierce with a tsod/piercing staff for example.(and 90% pen by itself is gonna be more than enough in a lot of cases)
If you gonna use any of the shield+weapon card combos for mdef bypass, it is hardly more worth than simply using M.Glove.

You can go 126 str but you will most likely give up on the last bonus from mob scarf, wich isnt as terrible as it sounds. You may be able to keep all those stats, but you'd have to get some specific gear to maybe deal with a possible stun or suplement aspd.

90 str is super nice if you happen to have access to a vesper tho