36 replies to this topic

[Ryuuz0]

@Campitor 

I really hope we wont have the 10 sec cooldown fist in Trans

It would make the class just super useless, just copy paste the cd from Thai its 2-3 sec

Edited by Ryuuz0, 11 March 2018 - 12:28 PM.

[Suraborn]

Camp what were the results from the questions you were asking home office about the possible change?

[VModSoup]

Please keep the thread on topic.

[theRagnarokDude]

+1

[Varcieh]

+1

[laquintinie]

+1

[acofgod]

+1

[Varcieh]

In comparison to other classes like Sniper/LK/Clown, 10s cd is just insane.
Especially with added Zen.

[Philione]

+1

[8733130503023857157]

+1

[pints129]

Keep it 10 seconds. Play a real class. 

[Ashuckel]

while ppl dont have enough reductions to survive a gfist most of the time, the cooldown is just fine. When it comes to the point that most ppl can survive an ok geared gfist, then maybe it should be reduced.

[YongkySH]

Buff the fist plox

[Renaru]

Keep the cooldown, the last thing Champs need is to be stronger.

[ElenaGilbert]

+1.

 

reducing its cool down doesn't make champs stronger. it makes them more usefull. 10sec cool down is waay too punishable

[htpgmail]

The cooldown is fine. 

[theRagnarokDude]

The cooldown is fine. 

 

Please ignore the monk hater who doesn't even WoE.

 

And certainly please ignore the person suggesting to play a real class that plays an assassin...

 

Thanks.

 

<3 you doe.

 

If Monk needs a 10 second cast delay, Sage Dispel should have the same. Leave my -_- monk alone, pls. I have to wait long enough with cast delays to punch anyone. Thanks.

[laquintinie]

We're gonna have sinx with edps and biochemists spamming ad with renewal formulas and you guys think reducing to 3 sec is OP? It wasn't even supposed to have any cooldown at this point, just a reminder...

 

10 sec would be ok if it was a cooldown on GFist only, but being on SP regen and therefore unabling you to use buffs, absorb spheres, agi down etc, it's just too much

 

GFist is supposed to be short ranged OP, that's why we have dispell, cobweb, devotion and so many long distance damage skills with transclasses

Edited by laquintinie, 13 March 2018 - 09:34 AM.

[Suraborn]

No one should really care about the gfist cd. The potting cd is the real offputting mechanic. Keep 10 secs on gfist but give back monks viability after gfist.

[Ryuuz0]

nah 10 sec is way too much, 5 sec is also ok.
And no, it wont make them op.

[Campitor]

Okay first lets define what were talking about.

According to the server files I have GFist has the following settings (In milliseconds if everything is consistent)
Fixed Cast Delay
0

Stat Based Cast Delay by skill level
2000, 1750, 1500, 1250, 1000, 500, 1000, 1000, 1000, 1000

Global Post Cast Delay
3000, 2500, 2000, 1500, 1000

Single Post Cast Delay
0

I have requested these same settings files from Thai for a comparison.

[Ashuckel]

it's not the skill innate cooldown they talk about, is the 10s lockout of restoring SP by any means. (Wich effectivelly puts everything at a 10s cd)

[laquintinie]

@Camp

 

it's not the skill innate cooldown they talk about, is the 10s lockout of restoring SP by any means. (Wich effectivelly puts everything at a 10s cd)

 

Yea, GFist basically triggers that 10 seconds "buff" that locks sp restore (which was implemented after Renewal and mostly due the existence of +9 Glorious Fist, which makes GFist instant cast and Fury to instantly autocast Zen, making the skill ridiculously spammable). So it's basically being requested to either 1) lower that 10 second thing to 3~5 seconds OR 2) transform that 10 seconds into a GFist cooldown, which would allow sp to be regenerated and other skills to be used. Being useless for literally everything for 10 seconds is a lot...

Edited by laquintinie, 13 March 2018 - 02:37 PM.

[ArmoNz]

5 Seconds instead of 10 on the 0 SP thing after casting it.

[Varcieh]

@Camp


Yea, GFist basically triggers that 10 seconds "buff" that locks sp restore (which was implemented after Renewal and mostly due the existence of +9 Glorious Fist, which makes GFist instant cast and Fury to instantly autocast Zen, making the skill ridiculously spammable). So it's basically being requested to either 1) lower that 10 second thing to 3~5 seconds OR 2) transform that 10 seconds into a GFist cooldown, which would allow sp to be regenerated and other skills to be used. Being useless for literally everything for 10 seconds is a lot...

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