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[awesomegeek]

 

can someone explain whats going on?

Here's the rundown:

With Imperial Spear and Imperial Ring:

VP: 100K

Cannon Spear: 225k

+9 Gelerdria 3AKs and Storm Stone:

VP: 70k
Cannon Spear: 230k

 

Everything else is the same.

[CadburyChocolate]

check element of weapon

[Leonchascon]

the damage is working as intended

 

Imperial Spear & Imperial Ring are boosting VP & CS damage by 90%

The spear most likely has EA enchants on top of the AK card

While the Geledria is carded in probably one if not the worst possible way to card it boosting boss damage by 125% with the 3 AKs

 

base + refinement atk on the imperial spear is higher too

so your geledria is inferior on every aspect to your imperial spear

why does it win on CS then? you may ask

well... look at your hat bonus, something something diminishing returns 

 

Edited by Leonchascon, 18 March 2018 - 01:37 PM.

[ChakriGuard]

Yup diminishing returns /rice

 

If try switching Imperial ring to BSG and see if CS hits harder.

[awesomegeek]

looks like the culprit here is the 3 AKs and Gelerdria + Stone combo's 50% Boss damage.

​75% + 50% = 125% It seems I'm losing the 25% boost as the bonus caps at 100%.

​Maybe that's why when I use these weapons on Bakonawa, the Gelerdria setup wins due to the separate modifier in Wind element.

​Thanks!

[awesomegeek]

While the Geledria is carded in probably one if not the worst possible way to card it boosting boss damage by 125% with the 3 AKs

​What's best card set up for this if I'm gonna be mainly using this weapon probably for Bio5?

​2 AKs and 1 Monster Size modifier?

[vividort]

Best would probably be AK+White Knightage too bad Nightmare OGH is a legend.

[awesomegeek]

I successfully removed 1 AK card from my Gelerdria with only 1 try (lucky)...

 

tested it on egg again and I literally did the same damage with 3AKs!! LOL

[Leonchascon]

there is no cap on cards like that the thing is 

 

1*2.25 = 2.25

When you can add something like a skel worker if you want it for bio 5 

1*2*1.15 = 2.3

or even a hydra card if you want it to kill all the archers & the mechanic 

1*2*1.2 = 2.4

oooooooooor... a mix between 1 ak 1 hydra 1 skel

1*1.75*1.2*1.15 = 2.415

Yes, whiteknight card would be the best 

IMO the best cards as a general use weapon are size ones, but since we dont have whiteknight card im leaving mine empty... other option is racial cards if you only want to kill 1 kind of mob like demi human (1 ak + 2 hydras  + storm stone = 245%) 

PS.: the numbers above only take in consideration gelerdria & storm stone other items like FDA, tengu set, etc would affect the calculation

Edited by Leonchascon, 18 March 2018 - 06:03 PM.

[Yugacky]

tested it on egg again and I literally did the same damage with 3AKs!! LOL

 

The ATK bonus your third AK card gives is within a range of 20% variance from level 4 weapon.

If you want to do more accurate test, you should use Maximize Power using Enforcer Shoes,

and use a weapon without over upgrade.

Edited by Yugacky, 26 March 2018 - 04:07 PM.

[Guitarlum]

I just have 2 +9 Geles with 3x Skel Worker Card (Bio5) and 3x Minorous (Faceworm)