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#1 Javaman144

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 04:23 PM

Hi !,

I've  been away for 2 years.

And I keep seeing these enforcer shoes.

Are they BIS in slot now for any build?


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#2 KianS

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 07:59 PM

Yes and no, depending on your build, if you’re going into newly introduced MA build, yes, you should have one. Else it is good to have one for Power Maximisation.

And, do take note, you need to spend 11 skill points for +7 Enforcer Shoe to take effect for non-MA GX.

It’s good to have one for switching if you have extra funds.

Some people do prefer +7 ES over +9 Temporal STR FS7 either BP or LD, due to cheaper price and more stable damage boost.
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Posted 09 April 2018 - 08:42 PM

Thanks !

I have a 175 RC gx already.

Just thinking if I should switch to meteor assault for farming instances.

I have a +12 str temp boots ad/ld and a +14 crimson katar
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Posted 09 April 2018 - 09:32 PM

MA on a long run no doubt is cost cutting since you don’t need EDP to boost damage but idk if MA build could do bio5 as good as CRS, because I saw people CRS bio5 monster with the damage of 2m (one hit KO)!

Anyway, skills and stat builds for RC/CRS and MA build is pretty much the same, just that you need two set of gears, at least weapons (to maximise the effect of MA) to go for hybrid.
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 12:08 AM

Hmmm.

I just viewed the new Headgears.

I'll probably try CRS out instead of MA.

Also I have two bako.

What are the new accessories I could replace those for Bio5 CRS farming ?

Edited by Javaman144, 10 April 2018 - 12:50 AM.

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#6 KianS

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 01:27 AM

Most probably PDM with at least 90 LUK. BAT is kind of outdated IMO. Can be replaced with Keraunos with Golden Scaraba Card, not sure if others would agree.

Personally, I had a PDM with 90 LUK and +7 Enforcer Shoe, that’s 95% DEF bypass.
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 01:41 AM

Sounds great.

Is BSG good or I could live with one bako and PDM?
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 02:04 AM

For the average GX it is a 20% DEF bypass and 20% atk bonus so yeah its pretty good, for the MA GX is a must have.

BSG is for when you can't afford luk points at your current level, PDM is better otherwise.


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#9 Javaman144

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 03:34 AM

Alright.

Thanks
So that means i'll have to redo my stats and pump my luck up ?
BTW here are my current stats and equips.
So I'll just get a PDM, Enforcer shoes and tweak my stats a bit ?
Also Get an Old bone circlet over upgraded ?

I wanna try to farm BIO5 right now  :heh:

Also I have a Tengu set somewhere I just gotta find it.

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Edited by Javaman144, 10 April 2018 - 03:38 AM.

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 03:58 AM

definitely get a old bone circlet over upgraded, you'll have a bad time if you rely on trigger effects like white eddga and BP


Edited by vividort, 10 April 2018 - 03:59 AM.

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#11 Javaman144

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 04:03 AM

Thank you very much.


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 05:40 AM

For bio5, better go with +15 KVM Katar and +15 Holy Crimson Katar with 2 AK Cards.

Speaking of this, I myself also looking for these gears for bio5.
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 05:55 AM

For bio5, better go with +15 KVM Katar and +15 Holy Crimson Katar with 2 AK Cards.

Speaking of this, I myself also looking for these gears for bio5.

 

There is no point on +15 a KVM also half of the monster you actually want to fight on bio5 are demon so the KVM is not useless on paper but is useless  or at least inconvinient since every weapon switch  removes EDP so using the KVM is not recommended, the  best options are +15 Crimson (holy pref) and  JDR 


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 06:05 AM

There is no point on +15 a KVM also half of the monster you actually want to fight on bio5 are demon so the KVM is not useless on paper but is useless or at least inconvinient since every weapon switch removes EDP so using the KVM is not recommended, the best options are +15 Crimson (holy pref) and JDR


But... but... I thought you would want to clear every single monster there since you cannot teleport within the dungeon?
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 02:35 PM

There are two ways:
 

Via RC+CRS:

 

+12 Old bone circlet (any enchant will do but I suggest mettle to improve atk further)

Sunglasses (if u have kiel, put it on)

mob scarf

+13 Abusive (i pref angeling card here for reducing magic damage) with Str6 or Dex6

+12 up JDR Katar with 2 AK or if you are tight on budget, go for switching with +14 GBR and +15 2AK Holy Crimson Katar

+9FAW of Shooter with EA10

+7enforcer shoes or if you don't want extra hp/sp but want a little more damage: +9TB Str with EA4 + BP

GS Gprotect

GS PDM/GS BSG

 

 

 

Via CI:

 

+12 Old bone circlet (any enchant will do but I suggest mettle to improve atk further)

Sunglasses (if u have kiel, put it on)

mob scarf

+13 Abusive (i pref angeling card here for reducing magic damage) with Str6

+14 Gflam

+14 Valk Knife with 4 True GX cards

+10 Valk Manteau with Wakwak

+7enforcer shoes

GS Gprotect

GS PDM/GS BSG


Edited by angelopaol1011, 10 April 2018 - 03:27 PM.

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 03:44 PM

I would only dump Enforcer Shoes in favour of LUK Boots in a critical build (and still I would have to check for critical% diminishing returns)


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 03:47 PM

Alright !

I just burned through 25$ trying to up my old bone circlet lol, it's still at +6 fml

Should I still 120 my str ?

I'm gonna reset my stats later today.
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 03:49 PM

Yes, Tengu Set (which you need 120 STR) is awesome for CRS


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 03:52 PM

Oh yeah forgot about that.

I gues my only issue would be my hit.

How high should my hit be for Bio5?
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 03:59 PM

Well I don't know exactly how much you need, only if they AGI UP you won't HIT at all

 

People usually wear a +10 Phreeoni Suit (but still not enough to AGI UP) so you can just Backslide or auto-attack with crits

 

I've seen GXs achieve over 1300 HIT, but I have no idea how they do it


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 04:09 PM

Well I don't know exactly how much you need, only if they AGI UP you won't HIT at all

 

People usually wear a +10 Phreeoni Suit (but still not enough to AGI UP) so you can just Backslide or auto-attack with crits

 

I've seen GXs achieve over 1300 HIT, but I have no idea how they do it

 

Phreeoni wings + Phreeoni card combo but this for me is not necessary. Just do critical hits and your good.


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Posted 10 April 2018 - 04:26 PM

For Abusive Robe, replacement could be high FS Nab’s Cloth right?

But I heard instead of Tengu or Mob set, people putting on Toy Strinyge as well as condensed pot booster, since you would be needing to span. Or unless you replace Wakwak Card with Flamel Card?
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 06:25 PM

Alright.

How much agi do you think I need to pump to reach 190 aspd tho.

I've set my stat to
120 str
94 vit
106 luk
93 agi(interchangable)
74 dex(interchangable)

It's a pain in the butt to reset so i may aswell get it on the first try
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 06:59 PM

More DEX less LUK, probably 90 DEX and 90 LUK. With 90 LUK and PDM and +7 ES you’ll have 95% def bypass. The remaining 5% can get from Glorious Bloody Roar or if you planing to get Abusive Robe, that’s more than 100% (capped at 100%;iirc).

FYI, RC need HIT to work therefore you couldn’t have too low DEX.
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 07:16 PM

Alright thanks.

i'll enjoy my 95% for now as Im broke from the old bone circlet hahaha

Also what enchants do you guys use on the old bone circlet?

Edited by Javaman144, 10 April 2018 - 07:17 PM.

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