20 replies to this topic

[JadeMountain]

4th is EELU and cert

5th - WPE price ripple effect : all +12 and above item, will be impossible to vend under 1B cap

     are GM really ready for massive 'request to trade'....

 

     first, u might see someone buy the finish product but eventually, +12 items will cost more than 1B to make from scarch, making it impossible to vend.

 

I am making this bold prediction since I am right on first to 4th WPE ripple effect, we will see

 

 

[ChakriGuard]

I think those WPE sellers have seen all the effects coming from miles before they started raising WPE prices. I think most of them are more than ready for the apocalypse 

 

Hmmm ... E.Elu/Ori box is selling between 375m - 425m. On average, you can get 3 gears to +9 per one box. That means roughly you need 3 boxes to get a single gear to +10. That is 1.125b - 1.275b and is a cost to +10. Things are getting so fun like riding a roller coaster lol

Edited by ChakriGuard, 10 April 2018 - 12:27 AM.

[YongkySH]

Increase vend limit to 2.1 bil?

[yamasakai90]

It cost about 1.5-2b just to +10 your stuffs. Granted only those new equipments can follow the rate since we have saturated +10 and above items before this. 

 

So its not profitable to +10 yourself anything that is pre-inflation, cause its just cheaper to buy yourself.

[Sigma1]

Increase vend limit to 2.1 bil?

Impossible ATM.
IIRC KRO planned to increase vend limit to around 1-2b but face some problem so that project has been halted.
BTW wonder if it's possible to transfer 32-bit signed databases to higher value likes 64-bit signed.

Edited by Sigma1, 10 April 2018 - 01:12 AM.

[JadeMountain]

seller are selling some 999M item.. it is happening.

give it time, there wont be price of 'pre inflation' and 'post inflation' item, they will all giving   'post inflation'  expectation 

 

you have some many items come out of OCP, but EELU price is so high, it is not profitable to upgrade it anymore

   - the balance is broken..

 

at this trend, the next +15 event will be ......  i  can not image the willing of participation

[vividort]

Increase vend limit to 2.1 bil?

Stop it, get some help.

[ikkion]

I've already used 5 E.Elu boxes for the +10 and I still can not        

[LordYggdrasill]

ppls are already selling +15 lv.3 weapons(ie. Lacryma Stick and Crimson Mace) at 2b, before all these weapons were vended at 1b. Sellers will adjust for inflation rate, and WP may as well have to raise the limit of vending from 1b to 2.1b.

[icchigosan]

ppls are already selling +15 lv.3 weapons(ie. Lacryma Stick and Crimson Mace) at 2b, before all these weapons were vended at 1b 600m. Sellers will adjust for inflation rate, and WP may as well have to raise the limit of vending from 1b to 2.1b.

 

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[ChakriGuard]

ppls are already selling +15 lv.3 weapons(ie. Lacryma Stick and Crimson Mace) at 2b, before all these weapons were vended at 1b. Sellers will adjust for inflation rate, and WP may as well have to raise the limit of vending from 1b to 2.1b.

I hope me discussing about inflation here is okay for VmodMango because thrisbis another inflation topic.

Hmm ... before when a +15 level 3 [holy] weapon sold 1b, WPE rate was 250m. That means to buy one weapon, it was 4K WPE. Now it is 2b and 550m WPE is sold like hot cake, that means now it takes only 3.6k WPE. Note that 550m/k is a selling price, if you are not in hurry, can easily ask for 600m/k and that means it’s only 3.3 WPE which is cheaper.

Take Abusive robe market for example. When WPE price raised, Abusive sellers adjusted prices to inflation to feel that they still got the same ultility. Unfortunately, if WPE sellers do not buy it and normal players can’t afford newly expensive prices of robes, prices would start dropping. Right now someone is selling +13 Abusive robe Vit 6 for 8b and seems like no one is buying it. The only perfect enchant that is in demand and is eligible to adjust price to inflation propertionally is Abusive robe Str 6 which I sold one for 13b at +10.

[mamagochi]

Just don't buy, price will eventually comes down =)

[lorenz1375]

Want more wpe in the system? Remove OCP

[icchigosan]

Want more wpe in the system? Remove OCP

 

Please put all your future Ocps in the next FEW months and let it be seriously, let the server breathe!

[lorenz1375]

They just put it in the server without rest lol, even pRO didnt dare do such thing

Edited by lorenz1375, 11 April 2018 - 02:12 PM.

[SoulL1]

Have a feeling the 1B vend limit helps against inflation/overpriced gear although it does so barely at best.

[yamasakai90]

They just put it in the server without rest lol, even pRO didnt dare do such thing

 

At least they are putting the weaker one first and then making it obsolete a month or a few months later. So we can still use it for a month or two before we need to change it.

[folkvangr]

Have a feeling the 1B vend limit helps against inflation/overpriced gear although it does so barely at best.

 

its one of the culprit, if we have 10b vend limit, people will vend item at 10b lel

[vividort]

until 10b becomes the new 1b and we do this all over again XD

snif* snif* increase vend limit to 100b i can't vend my stuff* 

Edited by vividort, 12 April 2018 - 03:50 AM.

[SoulL1]

its one of the culprit, if we have 10b vend limit, people will vend item at 10b lel

 

Yep. One of the soft ceilings against inflation.

 

"2B vend limit? Time to sell item at 1.2B in vend"

 

"1B vend limit still? I'll probably just sell at 1B in vend than waste time haggling in Eden while trying to sell at 1.2B."

 

Those are rough examples of course.

[nimblebot]

What about the 1.2b item, just over vend limit but I also can’t be bothered with Eden so stash away for rainy day (I must have 10 or so items like this). GG supply.

Increase vend cap, put in listing cost, put in transaction cost.