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#1 SoulL1

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 01:17 PM

It's going to be my first time to attempt to +10 an item but not sure what's the best way to do it and what I mean by best is the most cost efficient while having the best probability.

 

I've read these two so far but looking for newer input since there could've been newer ways discovered by the community to go around upgrading the +10:

 

https://forums.warpp...0-certificates/

 

https://forums.warpp...y-to-refine-10/

 

https://forums.warpp...rtificate-work/

 

Which one is the best?

 

A. Wait for Enriched.

Enriched to +9

Use Safe to 10 with HD until +10

 

B. Wait for Enriched

Enriched to +9

Use Enriched to +10 without Safe to 10.

Use Enriched to +9 again upon failure because if you don't use a Safe to 10, the +9 will become a +8 (downgrade by 1) then retry to +10 with Enriched without Safe to 10 until +10.

 

C. (My guess, needs clarification) Wait for Mad Bunny Event due to doubled success rate of HD?

 


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#2 kinkthecat

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 02:10 PM

enriched to +9 then use blacksmith blessing for +10 or use HD ore and refine enriched to +9 again if downgrade safe 10 cert isnt viable unless its 100m each or roughly same cost as 4x blacksmith blessing


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#3 SoulL1

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 02:21 PM

enriched to +9 then use blacksmith blessing for +10 or use HD ore and refine enriched to +9 again if downgrade safe 10 cert isnt viable unless its 100m each or roughly same cost as 4x blacksmith blessing

 

How many BBs required for each attempt to +10? 4 BBs?


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Posted 12 April 2018 - 02:44 PM

https://irowiki.org/...finement_System

I think you get something mixed up

A.
Enriched to +9
HD to +10, failure gets you back to +8

B.
Enriched to +9
Enriched to +10, failure breaks your item

C.
Enriched to +9
4 BSB + HD, failure item stays on +9
Safe 10 + normal ore, failure item stays on +9

Mad Bunny event only increase HD Carnium, HD Bradium, and enriched ores rate
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Posted 12 April 2018 - 03:39 PM

https://irowiki.org/...finement_System

I think you get something mixed up

A.
Enriched to +9
HD to +10, failure gets you back to +8

B.
Enriched to +9
Enriched to +10, failure breaks your item

C.
Enriched to +9
4 BSB + HD, failure item stays on +9
Safe 10 + normal ore, failure item stays on +9

Mad Bunny event only increase HD Carnium, HD Bradium, and enriched ores rate

 

THX

 

Can you use Safe to 10 and/or BB with HD Carn/Brad?

 

 


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Posted 12 April 2018 - 03:52 PM

Hd carn n brad is for +10 to +20

BSB is for under +10

Edited by YongkySH, 12 April 2018 - 03:54 PM.

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 04:08 PM

Delete it and use a less superior equipment. Trust me on this.
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 09:05 PM

Hd carn n brad is for +10 to +20

BSB is for under +10

Btw, what's the other tip about not exiting dialogue boxes? I know this about using Enriched but does that also apply going to +10?

 

Does that mean I will only have to use x1 Safe to 10 but plenty of HD Elu/Ori as long as I don't exit the dialogue box?


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 10:58 PM

The "not exiting dialogue boxes" is only for when your gear end up below +7 option

Lets say you use enriched hammer and end up with +6 item, if you close the dialogue then you have to use safe7 cert again, since enriched hammer only provides enriched ore service starting from +7, but if you dont close it, you can still use the enriched ore

For +10 ing, if you use safe10, then you use normal ore, and on failure it stays at +10

Use 4 BSB + HD ore, on failure it stays at +9

If you just use HD ore for +10 ing, then on failure it degrade to +8, and on that point you have a choice to use either enriched hammer, HD ore, or 2 BSB + HD ore

Edited by YongkySH, 15 April 2018 - 11:01 PM.

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 05:16 AM

with the bad price of enriched ores i'd go

 

+7-9 (with enriched)

 

+10 with (either blacksmith bless + hd elu - if cheaper at the moment or safe to 10 - again if this is cheaper)

 

otherwise pray to RNgod you dont spend 3b like me to +10 a 1b item (just because)


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#11 SoulL1

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 08:42 PM

Used 10 HD Elus with 6 safe to 10 certs and 16 BSBs. Still +9.

 

1B down the drain.

 

How bad is this thing? 100 certs needed?


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Posted 19 April 2018 - 09:24 PM

Best way is blacksmith blessings from +4/+5 to +10. IIRC it has a higher chance and doesn't degrade or break the item.


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Posted 19 April 2018 - 09:55 PM

Used 10 HD Elus with 6 safe to 10 certs and 16 BSBs. Still +9.

1B down the drain.

How bad is this thing? 100 certs needed?


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Posted 20 April 2018 - 01:38 AM

Best way is blacksmith blessings from +4/+5 to +10. IIRC it has a higher chance and doesn't degrade or break the item.

 

BSB with HD or BSB with regular?


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Posted 20 April 2018 - 04:25 AM

BSB with HD or BSB with regular?

 

you can't use BSB with regular dude.

 

in my opinion .. to +10 an item you need to risk it

 

JUST DO IT! LoL regrets after +10 ing specially on my part :<


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Posted 20 April 2018 - 04:28 AM

Used 10 HD Elus with 6 safe to 10 certs and 16 BSBs. Still +9.

 

1B down the drain.

 

How bad is this thing? 100 certs needed?

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Posted 20 April 2018 - 04:33 AM

Delete it and use a less superior equipment. Trust me on this.

 

i'd actually trust him unless you're refining something that boosts your skill damage about 40% per 2 refines or something 

 

i have the yellow driver band at +10 and i immediately regret it after spending 6 enriched 50 boxes and 3 hd elu box to +10 it (i didn't trust blacksmith bless guy before) 

 

and it only boosted my skill like 25% (arm cannon)

 

it's an item you can't sell and well a money sink :D


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Posted 20 April 2018 - 03:39 PM

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:( Cursed account bound items :( Nice revenue from WP.

 

i'd actually trust him unless you're refining something that boosts your skill damage about 40% per 2 refines or something 

 

i have the yellow driver band at +10 and i immediately regret it after spending 6 enriched 50 boxes and 3 hd elu box to +10 it (i didn't trust blacksmith bless guy before) 

 

and it only boosted my skill like 25% (arm cannon)

 

it's an item you can't sell and well a money sink :D

Yikes. So that 35% to plus 10 with enriched event is a lie?

 

6 enriched boxes sounds so brutal man. :(


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Posted 20 April 2018 - 09:05 PM

enriched refine have a chance to break wait it's not 35% it's regular rate

 


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Posted 20 April 2018 - 09:09 PM

enriched refine have a chance to break wait it's not 35% it's regular rate

 

I'm confused. Isn't it Enriched event?

 

Refine Event Success Rate with Enriched Ores

Success chances using Enriched Oridecon/Elunium during the events are:

RENEWAL Upgrade Lv. 1 Lv. 2 Lv. 3 Lv. 4 Armor & Shadow +1 -> +2 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% +2 -> +3 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% +3 -> +4 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% +4 -> +5 100% 100% 100% 95% 95% +5 -> +6 100% 100% 95% 80% 80% +6 -> +7 100% 95% 90% 80% 80% +7 -> +8 95% 85% 70% 60% 60% +8 -> +9 85% 60% 60% 50% 50% +9 -> +10 55% 45% 45% 35% 35% RE:START [Rate increased by 5%] Upgrade Lv. 1 Lv. 2 Lv. 3 Lv. 4 Armor +1 -> +2 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% +2 -> +3 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% +3 -> +4 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% +4 -> +5 100% 100% 100% 95% 95% +5 -> +6 100% 100% 95% 75% 75% +6 -> +7 100% 95% 85% 75% 75% +7 -> +8 95% 75% 45% 45% 45% +8 -> +9 75% 45% 45% 45% 45% +9 -> +10 35% 35% 35% 25% 25%

 

https://irowiki.org/...finement_System

 

+9 -> +10 55% 45% 45% 35% 35%

Last 35% is under Renewal with Armor.

 

Is this a typo from the wiki?


Edited by SoulL1, 20 April 2018 - 09:11 PM.

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Posted 21 April 2018 - 09:28 AM

"enriched hammer" refine event (current) -> safe 7-9 upgrades using enriched hammer npc and success rates are normal (not boosted).
 
"mad bunny" aka 10+ refine event -> enriched / 10+ ore rates are all boosted with increased success chance.
 
Bascially works like this:
0->+7 = mad bunny refine
+7->+10 = enriched hammer refine
10+-> = mad bunny refine
 
Just goes back and forth like that. Cheapest way is to save all your refines for the events.
 
Best way to +10 imo:
Enriched hammer = +7->+9
Mighty hammer w/ HD elu = +10
repeat
 
Can take anywhere from 1-30 attempts to +10 with HD elu @ mighty hammer. Depending on enriched costs you may want to use certs/bsb up to you.

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Posted 22 April 2018 - 12:16 AM

I'm confused. Isn't it Enriched event?

 

Refine Event Success Rate with Enriched Ores

Success chances using Enriched Oridecon/Elunium during the events are:

RENEWAL Upgrade Lv. 1 Lv. 2 Lv. 3 Lv. 4 Armor & Shadow +1 -> +2 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% +2 -> +3 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% +3 -> +4 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% +4 -> +5 100% 100% 100% 95% 95% +5 -> +6 100% 100% 95% 80% 80% +6 -> +7 100% 95% 90% 80% 80% +7 -> +8 95% 85% 70% 60% 60% +8 -> +9 85% 60% 60% 50% 50% +9 -> +10 55% 45% 45% 35% 35% RE:START [Rate increased by 5%] Upgrade Lv. 1 Lv. 2 Lv. 3 Lv. 4 Armor +1 -> +2 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% +2 -> +3 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% +3 -> +4 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% +4 -> +5 100% 100% 100% 95% 95% +5 -> +6 100% 100% 95% 75% 75% +6 -> +7 100% 95% 85% 75% 75% +7 -> +8 95% 75% 45% 45% 45% +8 -> +9 75% 45% 45% 45% 45% +9 -> +10 35% 35% 35% 25% 25%

 

https://irowiki.org/...finement_System

 

+9 -> +10 55% 45% 45% 35% 35%

Last 35% is under Renewal with Armor.

 

Is this a typo from the wiki?

 

those are 2 types of events

 

1 is enriched event where item doesnt break until you either loose enriched elunium/ori supply or you close the dialogue you and the npc talkes about (also the gm's implement that added npc at eden 2nd floor)

 

 

2nd is only INCREASED RATES where they post some kind of table with the improved rates of all of the ores (while you use the normal method and have a chance to break) - gm's don't add any npc in game, you'll use shunbi/shunmi to refine which is the nomal way to use enriched elu/oris 

 

this event is enriched refine only which is my the first thing i've said


Edited by Doral, 22 April 2018 - 12:18 AM.

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