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[pandaranger]

so i have made lots of chars and got them high lvl but i have only made a throwing ninja not a magic ninja so i was wondering if a magic ninja is still viable post renewal just pvm no woe or pvp. i guess they changed lightning jolt and couple other skills? i know their higher skills use the stones but u can get 99 stones for 11k on a merchant with discount 10 which is nothing. so are ninja still viable or not anymore? please dont tell me to just go make a wiz cause i know i could do that >_>

[kyuubi96]

Magic ninjas are heavily nerfed cause of the matk calculations for renewal. So simple answer would be no. It would also be a waste of time and zeny for the following reasons:

*Cast-time formula change which requires you to have insane amounts of int and dex which ninjas cannot reach. They can reach 150+ with int or dex but not both.

*You need matk to be effective: some people put luck to add some matk but the stat points for dex is reduced making the cast time even slower which in-turn makes it frustrating to level. The cast times would be around 2-3 secs with 1 dex (if i remember correctly) in that time a monster that can pierce cicada skin shed would've killed you.

*The matk enhancing equips for ninjas are limited: you would need to have an overupgraded bazerald to get decent matk and some int food, buffs and MA scrolls (if available) just to get the same damage pre-renewal.

Magic ninjas are sadly been left out of the the renewal perks but it is still fun to play although very hard and would take about 3x to 4x to level compared to pre-renewal using normal means.

Well I hope I was able to help you decide

[Squishyyy]

I tested ALL Expanded classes when renewal was in testing phase and the only class build that held its own was KS Ninja. Everything else was miss miss miss. Even if I got enough Int to hit them it was only 1s. Gunslingers are the same way. They don't have enough dex to hit anyone, let alone do damage. So yea, stick with your melee ninja. It's the only one worth playing |: atm.

[ShadowOfLoki]

That sucks... I was working on a Magic Ninja pre-Renewal. Guess I'll have to go buy a stat-reset item... ;_;