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#1 pp322

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Posted 12 May 2018 - 09:24 PM

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How about large size ??????


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#2 Boyeteers

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Posted 12 May 2018 - 10:46 PM

I have the same equipment set as yours but my dmg is only half around 450k-490k. Double element aspersio/holy cannon ball still stacks bruh?


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 03:40 AM

^Are you sure you're having similar buffs, status build and also amassed the exact same parameters on OP status screen?

also don't forget shadow gears playing its role there, something like liberation set, +30 physical set and some atk% top and mid headgear costume

 

Pyroclast on maxed level dieter + Shield Spell swapping with highest def shield available will net another 350 EATK in total, you also need to consider this kind of buff condition.

 

 


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 05:34 AM

Sword Mastery on?

 

edit: Training


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 05:38 AM

Sword Training (Genetic) and Axe Mastery (Alchemist) passive skills also affecting RTE (One-Hand Sword) CC damage too, although it's not as much as Pyroclast and Shield Spell Buffs described above.

 

This can also included as consideration factors.


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 12:37 PM

+15 C.Mace is better if you have low eatk since the mace gives you a eatk bonus. The +14 RTE EA6 will be 5~10% better if you already have high eatk from S.Coronet or Anemos Shield. It's better to stick with the +15 C.Mace since it can cost you 2b or more to make a perfect EA6 RTE plus the cost of upgrading a Lv4 weapon to +10 ~ +14.


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 01:20 PM

can't wait to +15 my RTE :heh:


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 10:03 AM

But without pyroclastic, RTE still is the better? Because i use Sera.  :hmm:


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:05 AM

Im using a  + 13 RTE [3AK] EA6 and is beating my +15 CM [2AK] on everything even large monsters I dont have an homun so yeah is better you "need" enforces shoes for maximize power (RTE is lvl 4) to get a more stable damage increase but on average is ~10% better, the only drawback is that you need to carry converters with you if you are going or may end up hitting some elemental  monsters (water, fire mostly) since you'll do less damage 

 

I guess EA3 would be on par with a +15CM at +10RTE and everything else is a damage increase  


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:22 PM

valk hammer with 4xAK don't beat RET?
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Posted 14 May 2018 - 08:02 PM

the moment when your rte breaks when you use pyroclastic on it cause you're a noob and you die.

 

but rodex fixing is a thing so who cares  :heh:


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 08:43 PM

the moment when your rte breaks when you use pyroclastic on it cause you're a noob and you die.

 

but rodex fixing is a thing so who cares  :heh:

 

How about KVM LOL


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 12:36 PM

the moment when your rte breaks when you use pyroclastic on it cause you're a noob and you die.

 

but rodex fixing is a thing so who cares  :heh:

 

Its a bright future for dieter owner, because pyroclast will no longer break weapons in the upcoming homunculus balance patch.

 

kRO also will boost its skill level from 5 to 10 which means additional 50 EATK boost and longer buff duration as long pyroclast stays using the current formula.


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Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:48 PM

if you don't have both dieter and sera you are not playing gene right :p_laugh:


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 02:23 AM

is weapon switching necessary for bio5? Does the homun update allow you to change weapons when pyroclastic is on?


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 06:32 PM

if you don't have both dieter and sera you are not playing gene right  :p_laugh:

 

yes, you need both  :heh:  :heh:  :heh:

 

 

 

is weapon switching necessary for bio5? Does the homun update allow you to change weapons when pyroclastic is on?

 

I think cc fix before homun update  :wah:


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 03:38 AM

Hey Can you compare damage on large size boss non-undead? Your RTE is fire, I think it may outdamage size penalty


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Posted 18 May 2018 - 06:43 AM

Hey Can you compare damage on large size boss non-undead? Your RTE is fire, I think it may outdamage size penalty

 

Holy Cannon balls were used....

RTE wins


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 03:54 AM

still double endow?


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 04:03 AM

I have the same equipment set as yours but my dmg is only half around 450k-490k. Double element aspersio/holy cannon ball still stacks bruh?

it never stacked, stop it.


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Posted 15 November 2018 - 09:40 AM

Wondering if i should sell my crimson mace? Anyone using rte for an extended period of time has found a scenario where you would use the mace instead of the sword?
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Posted 15 November 2018 - 09:59 AM

When you're not using Seraphim mid, maybe for faceworm with engkanto mob set.


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Posted 15 November 2018 - 10:13 AM

Seraphim gives me about same damage as if I was using Engkanto on mid though.


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Posted 15 November 2018 - 10:20 AM

Wondering if i should sell my crimson mace? Anyone using rte for an extended period of time has found a scenario where you would use the mace instead of the sword?

 

There are 2 floors on ET (the one with Mutant Dragons & one of the ones that have chimeras on it) that you are better using the crimson mace because you need "true neutral" other than that, no, there isnt a single other scenario that I have said "Crimson Mace would be better here"


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Posted 15 November 2018 - 10:21 AM

Let me rephrase. Crimsons are only better when the mid hg is not Seraphim


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