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#1 MoyuZ777

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:42 AM

So, I do not have the luxury of having 2 maxed rks at this time.

For those of you who have 2 or more rks and have tried both builds for everything.

What is the best build out there right now in 2018?

STR RK
Crit RK
DB Rk

Follow up question: are physical rks able to solo instances in a reasonable amount of time?

I am trying to weigh pros and cons before I make any decisions.

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#2 Darkeshi

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:45 AM

go rebellion!


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 08:18 AM

Depends on what you'd like to do with it and your budget. Str / Crit rk's are probably the best against current instances (imo) if you're geared properly. The problem is, gear is so much more expensive for 2hs RK's (and IB) than it is for DB rks. And DB RK's can still solo most of the popular instances (Faceworm, nightmare toy factory, geffen magic tournament). 


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 09:15 AM

Let's say equipment is not much of a problem?
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Posted 06 June 2018 - 10:49 AM

Physical RK more is fun and less repetitive compared to DB RK. Only problem is you'll have to farm rune materials. Either build is viable for end game play.
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Posted 06 June 2018 - 12:12 PM

Are the rune materials absolutely necessary? Also, can they only be farmed? They cannot be exchanged with merit badges or bought from players (or not enough profit in that market for people to actually farm it)?

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 12:56 PM

Are the rune materials absolutely necessary? Also, can they only be farmed? They cannot be exchanged with merit badges or bought from players (or not enough profit in that market for people to actually farm it)?

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Yes, you'll need some runes but not all. It's nice to have all rune buffs, but not necessary. You can't really buy runes directly from other players, but future patches will allow this. Right now farm or buy the materials needed to create runes.

https://irowiki.org/wiki/Rune_Mastery
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Posted 06 June 2018 - 03:08 PM

I only ever use my DB RK now for quick ET mob clearing and tanking :v

Yeah runes are nice for either builds specially Hagalaas. Rune materials are actually pretty easy to farm except for light granules.
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Posted 06 June 2018 - 08:57 PM

Crit RK has no elemental weakness and gonna get buffed soon so i would go physical tbh 

 

 


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 11:40 PM

VP/CS > Crit EB ...

 

Nevermind, wrong thread. RIP another RG follower but you're making a right decision! lol


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 02:25 AM

if you don't have at least a tao or perma-alt minstrel, forget DB rk. It's just out of meta now with no OCP support even though they can still do instances just fine.

 

Also, try to go for a crit/str hybrid to be forward thinking. Simply because of PDM's 105% defense penetration being super strong, and the upcoming runestone buff to crit rk. Str hybrid is simply because nowadays crit RK doesnt need much agi at all, you can have enough stats for dex to play good str ib for AOE while playing instance, and do silly crush strike damage to ET bosses like ifrit and valk. Right now with PDM i do around 2.4m crush strike before turisus to valk in ET for example. Lex will guarantee a kill everytime, and giant growth activation pushes it to 7m+ alone, 14-15m with lex. 

 

Talking a little more on the runestone improvement, I believe it will be the first class improvement to come since twRO just received it, so likely they have the package ready to send iRO. It is also the right sequence since kRO also gave RK the first improvement.

 

 

How strong will your RK be when it arrives? Turisus's 250% atk boost seems to be a separate +250% just like frenzy, so whatever damage you're doing right now before frenzy, you can just multiply by 2.5x to see your new damage when it comes. Even better, doing frenzy after that means you do either 4.5x or 5x ur current damage. 


Edited by blackCROSSCY, 07 June 2018 - 02:30 AM.

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 12:20 PM

Yeah, that rune update is going to be insane!!!!
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:57 PM

It's time for Red Baby Dragon to make the compare fairer....     Gene have Cylinder, RG have Imperial.....     RK just need get more love!


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 05:38 PM

with the addition of red baby dragon and temporal ring, both will be great now.

Db RK setup
Red baby dragon DMG
New Wave 10%
Strawberry in mouth HP
TGL 20%
FAW EA421 Shooter
Temporal dex boots
Temporal ring 30%
Fairy Leaf Powder 15%
Chimera combo on accessories 3%
Medical scrub 10%
Total= 88% aftercast delay, with almost zero damage lost compared to max dmg builds. Of course, you can stick to eda and just keep 78% delay.

Also, you can go for gwiber+ pdm/blacksmith glove for 18-22% aftercast delay instead of flp combo if you really want that 90%, but there is damage lost. Not to mention, the excellion set is already in our database, but just no way to acquire yet (soon). This gives a pretty cheap 20% aftercast delay and good HP option together. No need med scrub. Then accessories can use pdm for more stats and HP.

Edited by blackCROSSCY, 13 June 2018 - 05:43 PM.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 06:22 PM

How's the cast time for that build?


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 06:40 PM

Exactly same as current ones now? Cast times are based on ur stats anyway, so depend on whether you use pdm, and int 120 for gwiber. PDM+ gwiber builds cast faster compared to flp+421. Since you have int 120 dex 120 and another 23 dex and bunch of int from the pdm/gwiber.

Also, if you want the garment for cast delay but don’t want to add too much int, you can also use enforcer cape +9 for 11%, which has no stat requirement. However, there’s no bonus 5dex/int but you do get 5% sp. Just adding additional options to boggle your minds ( i would just wait for excellion set and use gwiber for now).
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 07:01 PM

I think that this will be the standard set for db rk:
+9~12 Red Baby Dragon with bungwisgis
New wave glasses
Strawberry Mouth Guard
+9~12 excellion suit (+15% MHP)
+9 TGL 2AS +9~11 EA
Excellion wing (+15% MHP)
+9~12 temporal dex boots speed of light EA4
PDM
Temporal Ring

however I don't know if the temporal ring will be equipable on right slot only. On the other hand, maybe the PDM will relax this requirement on a future.
This set reaches -85% delay, +53% ranged damage, ~+72% MHP, +15% MSP, +30 dex/vit and +2500 MHP. Hence we will conciliate huge damage, almost the maximum (-90%) of delay reduction and almost instant cast. It seems quite fancy for me.


Edited by gnog, 13 June 2018 - 07:03 PM.

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 05:41 AM

But will Red Baby Dragon come? I belive it when it's there and not in some kind of code :P


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 05:45 AM

It will, just we dont know if it is this OCP or next, as campitor said the arrival of Red Baby Dragon Hat might be delayed if the stupid wouldnt fix the bug in time.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 05:47 AM

hopefully they put Mob scarf in if they cant put baby dragon  :p_hi:


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 05:51 AM

+0 Spoon [ Archer Skeleton ]  with +10 Scutum is far superior than TGLEA12/EA11 and Valkyrie Hammer [4x AS].

 

Can easily get 193 aspd on 30 AGI.

 

Then use Trans Candy to cut out animation delay. Get rid of VCT. And you'll have a 3-4 times a second DB. 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 05:54 AM

lol. dude, what are you smoking


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 05:55 AM

+0 Spoon [ Archer Skeleton ]  with +10 Scutum is far superior than TGLEA12/EA11 and Valkyrie Hammer [4x AS].

 

Can easily get 193 aspd on 30 AGI.

 

Then use Trans Candy to cut out animation delay. Get rid of VCT. And you'll have a 3-4 times a second DB. 

 

Maybe if you use nodelay, but if you're gonna cheat do it right and use AR scrolls with Valk Hammer.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:29 AM

As Main RK I strongly recomended Physical RK, it's a Strong Build that very Flexible in any situation,

 

Gravity love Shadow Monster, You gonna prefer have access to Holy Attack than forced elemental attack

 

+ Strong AoE attack Ignition Break, that can absurdly Boosted By True Seyren Card and Old Rune Circlet
+ Bio5 Hat work well on IB and Hundred Spear, the enchant also great (Mettle or Acute)

+ An Access to All kind of element on the game Including Ghost (Via Bloody Eater [2]) currently only few class have access to Ghost type attack

+ Easily Bypassing 90% of all things on RO without Abusive Robe (Abusive only work on Demi Human/Undead/Demon)

+ Easily hit 193 ASPD

+ Tanky and have access of Immunity to many abnormal stats without need an immunity gear, Including Freezing, Sleep, and Stone Cursed

+ Absurdly Insane MDEF
+ Easy Switch Between skill and autocrit mode

 

Upcoming Patch Favor more and more Atk based skill and build, Upcoming Runestone Improvement dramatically boost RK Potential, and Upcoming Illusion PoleAxe Reduce Cooldown of Hundred Spear even more making it's more viable

 

Existing gear such as Storm Stone, Geledria, Abusive Robe, Royal Guard Shield, Anemos/Gaia Shield, Lindy Hop, RTE Favor this build too, the Only Downside of this build is the expensive price of Lindy Hop but VF Work Just Fine, 

 

 

For me DB is a Leveling build for Bio4, as the most RO end game content contain Shadow Monster that Insanely strong Vs Water/Fire Atk it's make DB build really not Viable build


Also You Can Farm Nightmare Biolab with Physical RK, it's really possible even for solo player


Edited by heickelrrx, 14 June 2018 - 07:37 AM.

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#25 MoyuZ777

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:19 PM

Yeah, I went for crit/physical.
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