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#26 gorgoroth1

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 06:37 AM

faw and hbp for a week? yes? no?
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 05:33 PM

What do you like about the event?

I like that the consolation prizes are generally good. It makes playing the raffle constantly rewarding and winning it an incidental benefit.

 

What you don't like about the event?

The dead time. The imbalance between raffle rewards, mostly Witch Starsand, Alcohol and Blue Herb raffles being bad, causes unfavorable raffles to stay until timeout while everything else zaps by in a matter of seconds.

 

How would you improve it?

Increase the value of prizes and reduce the odds of winning so that raffles can last more than a few seconds. I wouldn't remove bad raffles since they should exist to make raffle unprofitable for bots -- I'd consider making them worse, even -- but I certainly would drastically reduce raffle timeout.

 

Any other input?

I think that the consolation prizes should be told in the dialogue/sign and that the raffler would be better in a place where people are constantly circulating rather than an off-the-path corner. Also, I would bring the raffler back more often, though with different prizes/consolation so that players are still encouraged to make a profit by hoarding items.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 01:26 AM

chaos raffler stats so far - horizontal axis is duration in minutes (20 minute time limit), vertical axis is the number of times the raffle lasted for that many minutes
Note: this only indicates how long each raffle lasted, not the number of attempts.

week 1
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week 2
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week 3
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Edited by renouille, 12 July 2018 - 09:34 AM.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 02:15 AM

i dont know what to do with that information.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 02:16 AM

  • HE Bubble Gum / (1-4) Poring Pretzel: 160,000
  • Beelzebub Wing Box / (1-40) Blood Of Wolf: 1,000,000
  • (10) Temporal Crystal / (2) Yggdrasil Seed: 100,000
  • (20) Temporal Crystal / (4) Yggdrasil Seed: 200,000
  • (2) Coagulated Spell / (1-30) Blue Herb: 70,000
  • (100) Granpa Speed Potion / (1-60) Strawberry: 400,000
  • Cursed Fragment / (1) Yggdrasil Seed: 50,000
  • Old Card Album / (1) Yggdrasil Berry: 100,000
  • (3) Blacksmith Blessing / (1-15) Yggdrasil Seed: 750,000
  • (2) Bloody Branch / (5) Yggdrasil Berry: 450,000
That's a lot of yggdrasil seeds. How about replacing
  • (3) Blacksmith Blessing / (1-15) Yggdrasil Seed: 750,000
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 02:16 AM

Metrics to help with monitoring effectiveness.


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 02:24 AM

Metrics to help with monitoring effectiveness.

your conclusion based on the metric is?


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 02:28 AM

That's a lot of yggdrasil seeds. How about replacing

  • (3) Blacksmith Blessing / (1-15) Yggdrasil Seed: 750,000
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proceed if thor server is not within WP's concern


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 02:49 AM

your conclusion based on the metric is?


ppl do not engage on the raffle, regardless of the big prize, if the consolation one is pretty underwhelming for the ticket cost. See ores, alcohols, WSS and bad ratios on berries.

Edited by Ashuckel, 12 July 2018 - 02:51 AM.

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 05:04 AM

I, personally, used Raffle to restock on my supplies. I was happier when getting consolation prizes than the big one (in 50% of the cases).
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Posted 12 July 2018 - 07:35 PM

What do you like about the event?

- Larger quantitiy of rewards

 

What don't you like about the event?

- Less change to win grand prize. I don't understand why the maximum raffle number increases by 3 times. This does not make any sense.
 
How would you improve it?
- Keep the larger quantity of rewards and adjust the winning chance to the previous one.
 

Edited by thesifer, 12 July 2018 - 07:36 PM.

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 07:15 PM

I think this will make raffler totally sink half of the server zeny since immortal dog tag is here

Grans prize : JDR

Consulation prize : HE bubble (1)

Required zeny per ticket : 10,000,000z

Number range : 1~5000
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Posted 14 July 2018 - 08:18 PM

I sugest hbp and faw as grand prices. I mean, its been a long time since we had acces to them. Or sgadow gear
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Posted 14 July 2018 - 08:29 PM

I sugest hbp and faw as grand prices. I mean, its been a long time since we had acces to them. Or sgadow gear

 

I think FAW would be nice for 1m bets and 1-5 OPBs as consolations.


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Posted 17 July 2018 - 03:28 AM

the bar for consolation prizes is to wide say 1-40 blood of wolf, make it 10-40 or 20-40


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Posted 17 July 2018 - 01:18 PM

Gene foods +20 would be great or at least the ingredients


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Posted 17 July 2018 - 04:44 PM

Gene foods +20 would be great or at least the ingredients

They are already starting to loop it in, Blood of Wolf is the first


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Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:25 PM

16.1 and 16.2 tokens, since we getting temporal crystals and coags!


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Posted 19 July 2018 - 10:22 AM

chaos week 4 (x: duration in minutes; y: occurrences)
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week 5
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Edited by renouille, 26 July 2018 - 12:34 PM.

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Posted 19 July 2018 - 10:30 AM

They are already starting to loop it in, Blood of Wolf is the first

 

No changes so far on the patch notes.


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Posted 19 July 2018 - 10:34 AM

Personally I would prefer to see more cooking ingredients, I think blood of wolf was a great start. I think Renouille hit the nail on the head for ygg seeds as well, we have too many small prizes now based on that (just because people are getting fatigued after loading their storages with thousands). I would say that starsands are also fatigued, as people definitely began to realize that they're overpriced in the raffler, if the price point was brought down a bit I think people would buy them (on chaos at least).

 

Either way I'm genuinely sad that it'll be leaving, I think this should be a permanent addition to the game, and I think you guys are doing a fantastic job listening to community feedback on this. 


Edited by Beanbean, 19 July 2018 - 10:34 AM.

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Posted 19 July 2018 - 10:38 AM

I loved the seeds as small prizes. :D

And true, its pretty sad to see Raffler going away and I agree with Bean when he says that this should be a perma addition. Even though not for Ygg Seeds, Berries or other big prizes, at least for cooking mats since investment system came less and less attractive over the years. At least this way, there would be a good supply to us players and keep up with zeny sinking.


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Posted 19 July 2018 - 10:44 AM

if the price point was brought down a bit I think people would buy them (on chaos at least).

raffle tickets or starsands?
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Posted 19 July 2018 - 10:52 AM

My guess is since Raffler is "custom" we (WP) has more control over it than investment, which would have to come through from our inglorious overlords at kRO.

 

If, however, it is within our control to change investment... perhaps some of the ideas explored in raffler could go there. 


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Posted 19 July 2018 - 07:45 PM

raffle tickets or starsands?

Sands


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