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#1 powerhausman

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 06:38 PM

anyone experimented with this?

 

what would be the result?


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 06:45 PM

Perfect Hit affect skills and normal attacks

 

Perfect dodge only affect normal attacks.

 

Perfect Hit won the fights, end of happy game formula fairy tale  :heh:


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 07:31 PM

perfect hit mean when u hitting monster with agi up(skill) u wont miss..

perfect dodge mean when monster hit u(only normal atk) will dodge thats atk..when u did 100 perfect dodge monster cant do normal atk to u..only crit n skill atk will demaged u...


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#4 Sigma1

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 07:38 PM

Perfect Dodge has highest priority. It can dodge both critical hit and perfect hit.
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Posted 10 July 2018 - 07:43 PM

perfect hit ignores percentage of flee, perfect dodge ignores autos as a whole 


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:21 PM

Then the skilled magician came and kills flee, perfect dodge, perfect hit and crit concept.

Heroes pray to GTB (Golden Troll Boss) to lend heroes power to nullify skilled magician's magic. Peace has been restored.

Oh wait, it become loop of endless cycle :P

Edited by Casval17, 10 July 2018 - 09:21 PM.

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#7 Hogbae

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:43 PM

Perfect Hit is applied to skills. So in this case, you can still shot the PF.


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:47 PM

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 11:15 PM

Perfect Hit is applied to skills. So in this case, you can still shot the PF.


Perfect Flee?
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:06 AM

Perfect Dodge has highest priority. It can dodge both critical hit and perfect hit.

 

so basically ctrl click auto attack will miss vs 100 p.dodge, but i wonder about auto skill such as warg strike

 

at least i know now that 100 p.dodge will make you immune to martyr's reckon and spellfist.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:15 AM

because those are autoattacks
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 04:36 AM

Perfect Flee?

 

yes.


Edited by Hogbae, 11 July 2018 - 04:53 AM.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 04:48 AM

so basically ctrl click auto attack will miss vs 100 p.dodge, but i wonder about auto skill such as warg strike

 

at least i know now that 100 p.dodge will make you immune to martyr's reckon and spellfist.

 

Some auto skills require to 'hit' target to be proc.

So if you can't hit them. Auto skill can't proc too.

 

PD can dodge any kind of enhanced normal attack, Rhydo (even with Giant Growth proc) and Exceed break for an instance.

But PD can't dodge splash attack from Baphomet card or shotgun normal attack since it's considered as auto skill.


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:24 AM

But "Perfect" Crit (at some certain level ... maybe 150% Crit or whatsoever) bypasses 100 Perfect Dodge.

Perfect Dodge > Perfect Hit for "pokes" only both normal & critical.

Perfect Dodge < Perfect Hit when skills are used. (simply because PD doesn't apply to skills).

HIT = FLEE. To keep it simple, whichever is higher enough, you either dodge or hit.
Perfect Hit is the chance, when despite having a low HIT to Flee ratio, you apply damage on the target, despite having the animation "Miss".

When you hit a target despite of that ratio, you'll see your damage and that's the "lucky hit" as the maximum FLEE rate is only 95% maximum.

"Perfect Crit" might be critical skill attacks like RG's Pinpoint as it will always hit unless BLOCKED.
(e.g. Pnuema, Kyrie Eleison, Cicada Skin Shed, Parry etc.)

And no, my RG has 157 Crit chance. My Kagerou perfect dodges a few times. That's including Exceed Break & Double Attack.
 


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 11:52 AM

Perfect Dodge > Perfect Hit for "pokes" only both normal & critical.

Perfect Dodge < Perfect Hit when skills are used. (simply because PD doesn't apply to skills).

HIT = FLEE. To keep it simple, whichever is higher enough, you either dodge or hit.
Perfect Hit is the chance, when despite having a low HIT to Flee ratio, you apply damage on the target, despite having the animation "Miss".

When you hit a target despite of that ratio, you'll see your damage and that's the "lucky hit" as the maximum FLEE rate is only 95% maximum.

"Perfect Crit" might be critical skill attacks like RG's Pinpoint as it will always hit unless BLOCKED.
(e.g. Pnuema, Kyrie Eleison, Cicada Skin Shed, Parry etc.)

And no, my RG has 157 Crit chance. My Kagerou perfect dodges a few times. That's including Exceed Break & Double Attack.


Nice. This is very informative.
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