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[KriticalAssassin]

If a Sura's rtb could crit crits, how much crit would a rtb crit?

(Rhetorical, pls don't think it's an actual question and attempt answering it)

[mildcontempt]

Afaik, it always had this delay so monks could combo easily.

 

I know it did before, I'm asking during the "can crit" phase if anyone knows since it would have been a passive at that time and so perhaps functioned differently. 

[heickelrrx]

next item - fear breeze for everyone  

 

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[Hogbae]

I just tested the Battle Surcoat, it doesn't have the delay on auto attacks. DPS increases significantly. Only con is that you lose 100% crits.

[Nirvanna21]

I just tested the Battle Surcoat, it doesn't have the delay on auto attacks. DPS increases significantly. Only con is that you lose 100% crits.

 

It's the delay when RTB procs, and as Ash said it is solely based on DEX/AGI etc.

[Zayaan]

It's the delay when RTB procs, and as Ash said it is solely based on DEX/AGI etc.

 

Apparently that delay only exists if RQB is learned.

[Nirvanna21]

Apparently that delay only exists if RQB is learned.

 

I tested it on the Sorc, and when you use the coat it enables the skill, it was applying it there so no idea.

[Hogbae]

I tested it on the Sorc, and when you use the coat it enables the skill, it was applying it there so no idea.

I guess agi classes can benefit from it then? I'll see if anyone can test it on a crit character.

[Nirvanna21]

Cast delay of RTB is literally 1.3 seconds. This gets reduced by (AGI * 0.004 - DEX * 0.002).

 

If you had 120 AGI and 10 DEX, it would make it 0.84 seconds of cast delay remaining, less if it is reduced by global skill delay reduction. But ultimately it -_-s over other things so yeah.

[StunTosMati]

i m feel this good for RG class EB built

[3505170703074552307]

I just tested the Battle Surcoat, it doesn't have the delay on auto attacks. DPS increases significantly. Only con is that you lose 100% crits.

 

[mildcontempt]

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[Hogbae]

Cast delay of RTB is literally 1.3 seconds. This gets reduced by (AGI * 0.004 - DEX * 0.002).

 

If you had 120 AGI and 10 DEX, it would make it 0.84 seconds of cast delay remaining, less if it is reduced by global skill delay reduction. But ultimately it -_-s over other things so yeah.

 

True I didn't consider it when I tested on my GX with agi and dex. Lol

[mlmf]

I have a +7 battle surcoat and a ranger with 192 aspd test this out. Yes, it does have a delay, but it seems to only be the equivalent of 1 arrow attack. Overall rtb doesnt deal significantly more dps. But lv 10 double attack already makes this suit great, and work nicely with fear breeze and warg strike

[Hogbae]

 

 

I did not get what you mean with this screenie. But if you're trying to make a point that you crit with RTB, no you did not. Take off that /nc and do hit by hit to see. You DA attack will be higher than RTB.

[3505170703074552307]

I did not get what you mean with this screenie. But if you're trying to make a point that you crit with RTB, no you did not. Take off that /nc and do hit by hit to see. You DA attack will be higher than RTB.

 

dude, im pointing out the delay when rtb proc.

[Nirvanna21]

I have a +7 battle surcoat and a ranger with 192 aspd test this out. Yes, it does have a delay, but it seems to only be the equivalent of 1 arrow attack. Overall rtb doesnt deal significantly more dps. But lv 10 double attack already makes this suit great, and work nicely with fear breeze and warg strike

 

If you are using this on a Ranger, you are doing something wrong.

 

dude, im pointing out the delay when rtb proc.

 

Videos show the delay much better than a screen shot ever would. Also gears and stats to show how much delay is being reduced.

[bearl]

toggle it on to a physical RK and use it for CS?

pray for that 50% to proc when CS, swap back to faw once you're done?

[mlmf]

If you are using this on a Ranger, you are doing something wrong

I just used my ranger as a test subject since hes the only character i have that reaches more than 190 aspd. But why is it bad for a ranger? Wouldnt auto warg + fear breeze benefit by adding double attack?

[BlackMeow]

if this was an armor and not a garment, it would be nice for DA katar

[Ashuckel]

I just used my ranger as a test subject since hes the only character i have that reaches more than 190 aspd. But why is it bad for a ranger? Wouldnt auto warg + fear breeze benefit by adding double attack?

RTB is melee and wont benefit from ranged damage.

[Nirvanna21]

I just used my ranger as a test subject since hes the only character i have that reaches more than 190 aspd. But why is it bad for a ranger? Wouldnt auto warg + fear breeze benefit by adding double attack?

 

RTB is -_- and has the upmost priority of proc. If it didn't it would be a nice burst garment but eh.

[3505170703074552307]

 

gx test

[Nirvanna21]

 

gx test

 

120 agi and 1 dex is pretty optimum for delay reduction, assuming global delay doesn't work. Again, you can see the delay in your attacks.

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also not worknig with crush strike RK, RTB take priority, then DA crush strike proc