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#1 Beanbean

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Posted 16 July 2018 - 11:53 AM

Hi all!

 

This is assuming no competition. Was hoping to compile what I believe to be best in slot but I had a few questions, feel free to chime in and correct me!

 

Upper Bio5 headgear w/ mettle / magic essence and maestro I'm assuming. (alternative(s)?) 

Mid Seraphim

Lower ???

Armor Bryn (str/str abusive? as an alternative)

Shield: MBS or Anemos? depending on if you use liberation shadow set or spellflow I guess.

Garment +9 FAW aliot w/ sp enchants (alternative as GFSS w/ int enchants / aliot?)

Boots Temp str boots / FS / runaway magic

Accessory 1 Temp Ring of mad berserker

Accessory 2 PDM of mad berserker

 

Shadow:

Full physical set

Spellflow?

liberation set

 

Does wise shadow rings outperform physical set assuming both are max upgraded?

 

Buffs:

Bless / agi

GT Convert

 

Consumables:

Pretzel

Str food

Int Food

Aloevera (Can anyone comment on if this is worth it?)

Anything I'm missing?

 

Not really sure what else

 

 


Edited by Beanbean, 16 July 2018 - 11:55 AM.

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Posted 16 July 2018 - 12:59 PM

Headgear Upper : High Refined Maestro Turkey Hat / Devil's Hand / Magician Knit Hat / Witch Pumpkin Hat / Celine Ribbon as alternative Carat, Incubus or Engkanto cards

 

Headgear Mid : Seraphim Coronet / any slotted mid headgears with Int/SP/atk bonus coupled with incubus card or Fenrir card or Engkanto cards

 

Headgear Low : Banshee Master Kiss / Long Octopus Balloon / Seraphim Feather

 

Armor : Best All around would be Bryn followed by Abyss Dress situational armor against any demon, undead, shadow, undead combination / other choices would be Flame Dragon Armor / any 16.1 or 16.2 armors with STR enchants using respective damage/atk cards (Ktullanux, Gloom Undernight,porcellio, etc ) / sp cards (mangkukulam), / lesser choices would be diabolus robe with aforemention cards.

 

Weapons : Robot's Arm / Illusion Long Mace / Vicious Mace / Crimson Mace / Carga Mace / Glorious Morning Star / Spartacus / Valkyrie Hammer with damage cards (element, racial, boss protocol, size)

 

Shields : Anemos / Gaia / Scutum / Mad Bunny shield with Monster reduction damage card based on monsters element with atk% bonus (tatacho, draco, luciola vespa, cornus,etc) / general atk% card (bijou) / Alice shield for Boss Protocol and MvP damage reductions

 

Garment : Fallen Angel Wing SP 250 enchants / Ancient Cape with Flattery Robe Combo (MSP + 28% with alliot & +13 Flattery) / Red Lotus Stole / Nidhoggur Shadow Garb with atk cards like Wakwak or SP card like alliot

 

Shoes : Slotted temporal Boots Str or Slotted Variant Shoes with SP cards (Lady Tanee, Abandoned Teddy Bear, Sohee), Temp STR Boots RM-FS / BP-FS with Temporal Rings Combo (at least until NOGH came to iRO with slotted and enchantable temporal boots)

 

Accessories : Pair of Temporal Rings with Gscarabs or Beelz (30% SP & +40 INT bonus with RM combo and 150 Eatk) / MEG-ryan & MEG-han Markle Jard / Giant's Protection with GScarabs or Beelz (5% SP bonus, 75 Eatk & 5% atk) / Celine Brooch & Evil Spirit Gloves Combo with GScarabs or Beelz (450 SP, 100 EATK) / Glove of Shura (30 eatk, 6%sp, 5 STR) / Vesper Core 1 (5% Sp) / Keraunos (5% atk and Power Absorp cooldown decrease for faster rising dragon-zen-power absorp sp restoration)

 

 

Shadow Equipments & Costumes :  

 

Top : Costume Cake Hat

 

Mid : any enchantable costumes with msp % / atk% stone

 

Low : any enchantable costumes with msp % / atk% stone

 

Body : any elemental armor (flame, geist, shadow, etc) / Hard shadow armor / Spellflow armor with its set combo if you need uninterruptible cast

 

Shield : safeguard shield if you're using liberation shadow set, racial shield if you're using racial shoes (gargantua, cranial, seraphim,etc) / elemental shield if you're using elemental armor (underneath, saharic, windy, etc), spell flow shield

 

Shoes : champion shadow shoes if you're using hard shadow armor, racial shadow shoes if you're using racial shadow shields, liberation shadow shoes if you're using safeguard shield, spellflow shoes

 

Weapon : Physical Weapon / Magical Weapon / Kingbird Weapon

 

Pendant : Magical Pendant / Intelligent pendant / Power Shadow Pendant / Physical Pendant

 

Earrings : Wise Earring / Intelligent earring / Power Shadow Earring / Physical Earring

 

Additional consumables : SP increase potion (Large, Mid, Small)

 

Additional Buff and Debuff : GT Convert, Rising Dragon, Striking, Shield Spell, Gypsy Kiss, Blessing / Clementia, Sacrament, Lex Aeterna, Dark Claw, etc 

 

 

The key to optimize Gfist damage is maintaining balance between atk & sp because of how the skill formula works out.  

Sorry for a bit messy wall of text, typing this in the middle of a packed train :p_swt:


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#3 Zayaan

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Posted 16 July 2018 - 01:25 PM

Spare Card for lower headgear is the true best in slot.


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Posted 16 July 2018 - 01:31 PM

indeed, to troll competitors that shocked at card drop sprite after MvP death  :heh:


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Posted 16 July 2018 - 05:56 PM

Awesome, thanks so much for the input. Also lul I'd die from a heart attack from a blank card.


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Posted 16 July 2018 - 06:28 PM

Would an SP enchanted FAW be more effective compared to FS enchanted ones? I'm still really not clear on what has more weight when it comes to fisting


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Posted 16 July 2018 - 06:45 PM

Would an SP enchanted FAW be more effective compared to FS enchanted ones? I'm still really not clear on what has more weight when it comes to fisting

 

As I try to reenchant my FAW for the thousandth time right now for perfect sp enchants I'm curious about this, would be nice to use FAW of power w/ FS on multiple classes lol


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Posted 16 July 2018 - 07:31 PM

at some point my +15 GFSS [1] gave more SP pool than +9 perfect SP enchant FAW.
you just need to pump your int till it reach that point


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Posted 16 July 2018 - 09:10 PM

I know some people are using Magic Essence 5 in Bio 5 hat for the insta cast. But Devil's Hand damage is greater.


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 09:07 AM

Jokes aside, Love Piece is great for lower headgear since the slot rarely makes the difference between 1-2 shotting and not.


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 11:29 AM

How much does SP FAW outweigh Wakwak / FS16? Maybe I'll just go with a high int GFSS to be cheap, 4b for a new FAW seems crazy..


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 12:50 PM

How much does SP FAW outweigh Wakwak / FS16? Maybe I'll just go with a high int GFSS to be cheap, 4b for a new FAW seems crazy..

 

I've never tested but the difference between them shouldn't be significant. FS probably wins anyway unless Tanee is involved.


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 12:56 PM

Great news! Mainly because I tried to reset an FAW about 70 times before giving up on SP, got perfect FS in one try.

 

I'm curious how much stronger tanee is compared to temp ring + RM. 


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Posted 23 July 2018 - 05:32 PM

I prefer going the strength route. Makes lions howl more effective as well. 


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 06:55 AM

For stats are most people doing 120 int / str / dex rest vit? Or just str/dex and not really using dex (only needed for temp dex for competition I'm assuming)


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 10:46 AM

You'll be pretty much left crippled when you put 120 base to all 3 statuses (STR-INT-DEX) , with 93 status points left which is equal to 30 base status allocation on either VIT/AGI/LUK at level 175 transcended 3rd class.

 

Well it wouldn't be matter if you got some MvP cards like Tao to replace lots of missing HP parts for survivability / Orc Hero for stuns immunity.

 

Or you can also opt for fenrir and beelz and just tossing the temporal dex somewhere else with better status allocation spread, in the end its your choice though just another 2 cents comment. :p_hi:


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 10:49 AM

Yeah I don't really mess with anything that's comped.. I'd probably settle for more vit and just max str/int then. I honestly haven't had a char without ~100 vit for so long I forget that stun is something you need to worry about. I think I'll take your advice on that one haha.


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 11:48 AM

you only need as much vit to the point where you dont die before you kill the mvp. In many cases, that could be less than 1 :U
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Posted 24 July 2018 - 12:05 PM

^

 

"you only need as much vit to the point where you dont die before you kill the mvp. In many cases, that could be less than 1 :U " said by GX's  :heh: 


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 12:18 PM

 said by GX's  :heh: 

By absolutely any class at this point.

S.N isn't a class(not that vit is that impactfull for them :V)


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 04:45 PM

Quick question

Which amongst the sura offensive skills have fct?

Between these three:
Hell's Gate
Tiger Cannon
Gfist
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Posted 09 August 2018 - 04:50 PM

Gfist sure have FCT portion, tried long ago with sacrament buff and temp dex.

 

not sure on GoH or TC


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