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#1 Raiifolks

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Posted 29 July 2018 - 05:26 AM

guys, i want make a ma gx for leveling. At end game i want go dd/crit or katar.

 

Now i have some itens for him. +9vana, +9 Black Thread Mighty Armor, +9faw FS16, +7 enforcer Shoes and +10 Eda. What i need buy now? And i will use mob scarf, sera or tengu set? 
 

 


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Posted 29 July 2018 - 05:36 AM

MA = RC in equipment, with a heavier focus on -cast delay to maximize DPS, and dual wield sword+dagger

 

you only need to add phen card or the equivalent effect on other gear:

love piece

imperial glove

spellflow set

bloody butterfly card

orleans

 

and you can use valk drop until october, its -50% fixed cast for now


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Posted 29 July 2018 - 05:42 AM

but my equips is ok for this build? And what i use? Tengu, sera or mob?


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Posted 29 July 2018 - 06:02 AM

yes thats fine

 

any is fine depending on your stats build, if you want crit later then definitely mob


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Posted 29 July 2018 - 06:04 AM

Get either of those 3, best for raw damage would be seraphim coronet (but you need 120 INT) followed by mob (STR & LUK combinations) and Tengu Set (120 STR)

 

There's also alternative top headgears to use, such as +10 Devil's Hand which granting uninterruptible cast, 100% bypass to everything, aspd 20% boost and 50% fixed cast cut (fixed cast cut effects only last until october) so you can free your body armors to permanently defaulting EDA and free both of your accessory slots from def bypass gears.


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Posted 29 July 2018 - 06:12 AM

i dont have money to buy +10devil hand  :(

 

But i have sera coro, maybe i can sell and buy mob scarf + demon mask? Its a good option? And what armor i use? Mighty black armor or eda? thx for help me!


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Posted 29 July 2018 - 06:14 AM

just stick to seraphim then so there will be no more additional incurring cost, but in the end you will need to reset at max level for aiming crit build.

 

Demon Mask sucks your sp like crazy, especially when comboed with either succubus or incubus horns as a trade off additional aspd boost.


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Posted 29 July 2018 - 06:22 AM

ok i will keep sera. I put all my points in int? to get 120 sera bonus? 


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Posted 29 July 2018 - 06:33 AM

you need careful calculated stats distribution if you're using sera coronet, I suggest you do stats calculation trial first using following calculator especially when you're still at lower levels


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Posted 29 July 2018 - 12:25 PM

One more thing, how can i get 100%def bypass?

 


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Posted 29 July 2018 - 10:41 PM

  • PDM with 126 Base LUK (105%)
  • 2 pcs BSG (not yet possible for now)
  • Ice Pick
  • +10 Devil's Hand
  • MoT carded weapons
  • SS carded weapons with boss protocol exceptions
  • PDM 18 LUK (15%) plus +9 MBTA (70%) plus +7 Enforcer Shoes with maxed out CS skill (20%)
  • Enforcer shoes with restored jRO actual effects when maxing out CS skill (100%)
  • Semi-bypass equipments for specific targets (Dragon killer, KvM, CK, Abusive robe, NP/NCT card combo, Engkanto, etc)

 


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 01:11 AM

for semi complete list

https://irowiki.org/...F#Bypassing_DEF


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 03:19 AM

Good Job Yongky for keeping iROwiki up to date :p_idea:


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 03:47 PM

thx guys. 


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 03:53 PM

and what cards i put on weapons? I use +9vana and +10 EDA.  And what weapons i can use? (cheap please max 500m). And i dont have pdm, what is most important, pdm or a good weapon?


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 04:16 PM

high TI: charkram or any weapon really

scaraba hall: triple insecticide RTE + malicious thanatos dagger

NCT: triple beholder RTE + malicious thanatos dagger

 

easy peasy


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 07:47 PM

im pretty sure +9 vana and +10 EDA dont stack.

i use abyss armor now but i also use mighty black threaded armor when i need (evil druid) on my armor for unfrozen or no curse/stone curse

another thing if you want to go straight katar +15 holy crimson is always a viable weapon since you can usually reach the 100% crit with a katar if you go aspd

and lastly verus core is a great accessory with phen on if you need that effect still since it gives a good pile of stats like +20% perfect hit aspd10% and such, i usually use 2 verus cores, but im max now and swap to a luminous blue stone sometimes for the critical bonuses

go mob scarf or wait til next week and try one of the new sets we are hopefully getting, gambler seal + heart card or imperial set, they are both good alternatives to mob/sera


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 08:27 PM

so, if they do not really stack, which is the best to sell? and what i need buy with the money? I have around 1~1.5b.  At the moment I'm like this.
 

+9 Vana
Sunglass [1] marduk card
mob scarf
+10eda
+0 crimson dagger
+9 faw FS 6/5/5
+7 Enforcer Shoes
Under a cast clip
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Posted 30 July 2018 - 09:31 PM

If Imperial feather  come  this would be alt choice for raw ATK gear  

 

Imperial feather + RG necklace combo  need  120 Agi   for 180 ATK  , Aspd boost  

 

you'll get better ASPD when dual wielding  (also flee)   

 

 compare to Seraphim coronet   even it's have 250 ATK ,  free lower slot for Toy Syringe      but  sacrifice most Agi  or other stats for  120 Int   

 

also with 120 Agi   you can be   RC+CRS type at end game too....

 

 

 

 

 

for weapon   I prefer        Triple Malicious RTE  FS enchant  +  4x Race off hand    

 

(such as leveling NCT  I  use   Triple Malicious RTE +  Quad Beholder Knife    with buffs   can  2 shots NCT  easily  at  100k per MA)

 

 

or against  Shadow mobs       Double Malicious  Holy Crimson Sabre + 4x Race dmg off hand

 

             or just  +15 Holy Crimson Katar  is fine  because it's rarely to find someone sell +15 Holy Crimson Sabre  = ="

  


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Posted 30 July 2018 - 10:31 PM

You can go 120 STR/INT easily these days and allocate the remainder stats to either VIT or AGI or both.

 

You can even go 120 STR/INT/AGI by putting other status to minimum amount.

 

DEX is the least concern for melee class, since there are plenty of free massive hit boost gears today. Flee also least concern since you will mob to level effectively, so AGI role are plainly for ASPD Boost and there are too much affordable ASPD boosting gears nowadays so getting 120 AGI to get high ASPD even maxed out 193 ASPD are not necessary.

 

The perks of having high INT is having higher SP pool and higher SP recovery amount from consumables since you will spam MA which is not too SP friendly if compared to RC.


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Posted 31 July 2018 - 08:28 AM

verus core or imperial glove? I dont have money for pdm. And asking again, i can use +10 eda and vana? or i sell one? and if i sell what i can buy?


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Posted 31 July 2018 - 09:56 AM

i personally would sell the vanargand. malicious thanatos weapon (hunter fly carded) and +10 EDA will already make you indestructible 

have you managed to get your crit to 100? 

if that's so why FS and not FATAL FAW ?

my opinion about your items:

+9 Vana ~ I had one but I never used it since magic knit hat +9 beats the leech items for SP now. this item is only used if you really REALLY need SP leech (not very effective hp leech wise)
Sunglass [1] marduk card ~ personally, i carry green potion and change this to damage one (like your seraphim you said)
mob scarf ~ dont get this. there will be an update. there's a mid gear called "Gambler's Seal". its a mid gear paired with heart card in mouth. it gives you some baphomet effect
+10eda ~ always keep it. this one helps you not only from 1 char but for ALL chars.
+0 crimson dagger ~ get 1 of each element. very useful for element switching (if you really need it)
+9 faw FS 6/5/5 ~ i would change this to fatal (crit % damage vs base atk)
+7 Enforcer Shoes ~ probably the best shoes for a gx right now
Under a cast clip ~ useful as usual
 
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Posted 31 July 2018 - 10:13 AM

verus core or imperial glove? I dont have money for pdm. And asking again, i can use +10 eda and vana? or i sell one? and if i sell what i can buy?

sell your vana, get imperial glove first and try it out (i used one for awhile it works great)

but if you have low hit and wann grind out levels the verus core will add 20% perfect hit, its really nice boost


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Posted 31 July 2018 - 10:40 AM

 

i personally would sell the vanargand. malicious thanatos weapon (hunter fly carded) and +10 EDA will already make you indestructible 

have you managed to get your crit to 100? 

if that's so why FS and not FATAL FAW ?

my opinion about your items:

+9 Vana ~ I had one but I never used it since magic knit hat +9 beats the leech items for SP now. this item is only used if you really REALLY need SP leech (not very effective hp leech wise)
Sunglass [1] marduk card ~ personally, i carry green potion and change this to damage one (like your seraphim you said)
mob scarf ~ dont get this. there will be an update. there's a mid gear called "Gambler's Seal". its a mid gear paired with heart card in mouth. it gives you some baphomet effect
+10eda ~ always keep it. this one helps you not only from 1 char but for ALL chars.
+0 crimson dagger ~ get 1 of each element. very useful for element switching (if you really need it)
+9 faw FS 6/5/5 ~ i would change this to fatal (crit % damage vs base atk)
+7 Enforcer Shoes ~ probably the best shoes for a gx right now
Under a cast clip ~ useful as usual
 
period

 

Fatal for Meteor assault?? 


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Posted 31 July 2018 - 11:25 AM

Guys, what u think about : Sell vana and eda, buy +10 devil hand and +9 myght black armor?


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