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#26 Ashuckel

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 11:20 AM

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 11:25 AM

You just put the same thing I did quoting me. Lol You don't need to () a multiplication as it comes before any addition.


Lol yeah, I did. I just like to use parenthesis to isolate the equations. Coding ocd'ness. Although I don't code but had to a lot in school.
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Posted 13 August 2018 - 04:57 PM

Using calc and item description, I can't seem to reach 531 with your set-up

 

Bonus stats from Lv 175/60 bonus: +17 DEX / +13 INT

 

Is this purely from job bonus? wiki and stat calc only gives +12 dex/+8int
 

Bonus stats from Temporal Ring & +9 Temp Dex Boots with Run Away Magic: +5 DEX / +44 INT

 

Shouldn't this be +9 dex/+40 int?

 


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 06:52 AM

Hello. Just a curiosity, please don't bash. A newbie as well.

I bought an accessory with a suffix 'of mad witch',do Cart Cannon damage takes the form of str (base damage) then int? I don't know if I'm correct with my gears.

+4 Harvester Hat of Vitality
Opera masque
Romantic leaf
+4 Ebone Armor of Pest
+13 Double Kingbird Erde (thanks Doral*)
+7 Anti-Medium Immune shield*
+10 GFSS special str str+3 vit+3*
+4 temporal str boots hawkeye fighting spirit7*
(apple ring? I forgot, the green one given to newly 3rd job chars)
Robust silversmith bracelet

+4 Malicious Shadow set*
The rest +4 Shadow set

(* - signifies generosity from people)

What gears should I have? At level 112,present stats Str 79 Agi 1 Vit 32 Int 120 dex 1 luk 1

So that I may have a goal in mind. (I'm actually saving up to buy necessary gears. Also this is my first of two chars I have which is an SC.)

Thanks.
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Posted 14 August 2018 - 07:33 AM

The INT stat and your ATK.

MATK does nothing


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 08:03 AM

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fire armor for nogg road leveling, undead / shadow armor for later leveling/instance

costume goggle


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 03:15 PM

Oh thanks. Sooo, my planned gear in 2030.

+14 Physical Old Midas
Sera set
+14 Abusive str3/int3 or str3/str3
+14 3ple Queenbird RTE ea6
+14 resistant MBS
+12 FAW Menblatt/Wakwak
+12 Temporal Str/Dex hawkeye ea4
Temporal ring
Sapphire wrist

Am I correct in what I have to work for gears?

I have fire armor and costume goggles. Thanks.
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Posted 14 August 2018 - 03:43 PM

Oh thanks. Sooo, my planned gear in 2030.

+14 Physical Old Midas
Sera set
+14 Abusive str3/int3 or str3/str3
+14 3ple Queenbird RTE ea6
+14 resistant MBS
+12 FAW Menblatt/Wakwak
+12 Temporal Str/Dex hawkeye ea4
Temporal ring
Sapphire wrist

Am I correct in what I have to work for gears?

I have fire armor and costume goggles. Thanks.

 

+14 Old Midas Whisper - Mettle 5 enchant for CC, Magic Essence 5 for Bombs

Abusive - I'm not quite sure about this, but I think dex 3/3 would be better for a Gene than str3/3 or int 3/3 - plus helps the instacast

RTE - Abysmal Knights would be better if you're going after MVPs

FAW - Menblatt for sure

Temporal - Str Runaway Magic EA 4 - 40 int with Temporal Ring is the best set up for CC (for damage) and Dex Speed of Light EA 4 for Bombs (reduces cd) or Bear's Power (for the 40 str) for more damage

Temporal Ring - Gold Scaraba

Perverse Demon Mask - I personally like this more than Sapphire Wrist

 

Costumes, you should get the Creative Convention Hat (Green one), gives 1 dex and 1 int.


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Posted 14 August 2018 - 06:14 PM

Instead of abusive, get flattery or consultation

And valkyrja shield with alice card is good for MVP-ing

Edited by YongkySH, 14 August 2018 - 06:16 PM.

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 08:30 PM

Using calc and item description, I can't seem to reach 531 with your set-up

Not sure what you're doing wrong. Have you max your base and job levels yet? As you can see from the screenshots below. No weap upper head, lower head, garment, shield and no buffs. Total stats 531.

 

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 05:33 AM

Oh thanks for the suggestion.

Wait, abusive have def penetration right, and flattery focuses on matk?
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Posted 15 August 2018 - 05:37 AM

yes


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 07:58 AM

What is a +0 Flattery Dex5 worth anyway? 


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 11:16 AM

On Chaos? Somewhere around 2-3b would be my guess. 


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Posted 15 August 2018 - 03:50 PM

Oh thanks for the suggestion.

Wait, abusive have def penetration right, and flattery focuses on matk?

 

Matk goes in AB formula. So yeah worth getting.


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Posted 17 August 2018 - 08:54 PM

Not sure what you're doing wrong. Have you max your base and job levels yet? As you can see from the screenshots below. No weap upper head, lower head, garment, shield and no buffs. Total stats 531.

 

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INT/DEX
Job Bonus +12 INT /+8 DEX

PDM +15 INT /+15 DEX (90 Vit/Str)
+12 Temporal Dex Boots (RM/EA4) - +12 DEX
Temporal Ring (RM) - +40 INT

+11 Flattery dex 2/2 - +14 DEX

 

INT: 120 + 12 + 15 + 40 = 187

DEX: 120 + 8 + 15 + 12 +14 = 169

 

DEX*2 + INT = 525 (528 with clan buff)

 

Well that's just 5 (2) points short , I guess I could just wear shadow gears for that. I'm just more concerned about what I missed in my calculation. What are those two bottom buffs on your ss?


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Posted 18 August 2018 - 11:27 PM

 

Well that's just 5 (2) points short , I guess I could just wear shadow gears for that. I'm just more concerned about what I missed in my calculation. What are those two bottom buffs on your ss?

 

its -50% def/mdef from Tao Card.


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Posted 19 August 2018 - 03:18 AM

just go woth a dex+1 upper or midgear shadow gear and be done with.
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Posted 19 August 2018 - 02:04 PM

Creative Convention Hat (Green one) gives 1 dex and 1 int.


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Posted 20 August 2018 - 08:13 PM

Oh thanks. Sooo, my planned gear in 2030.

+14 Physical Old Midas
Sera set
+14 Abusive str3/int3 or str3/str3
+14 3ple Queenbird RTE ea6
+14 resistant MBS
+12 FAW Menblatt/Wakwak
+12 Temporal Str/Dex hawkeye ea4
Temporal ring
Sapphire wrist

Am I correct in what I have to work for gears?

I have fire armor and costume goggles. Thanks.


lol why don’t you just look at my gears in bio5 guide...
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Posted 22 August 2018 - 09:43 AM

lol why don’t you just look at my gears in bio5 guide...

 

There, something more practical, this guy's damage is insane.


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Posted 27 August 2018 - 07:42 AM

Hi thank you for your suggestions. For now, I'm gonna keep every zeny I earned to imitate your gears.
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Posted 27 August 2018 - 05:06 PM

Good luck!


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Posted 15 September 2018 - 08:11 PM

I have question. I read some comment about kiel card. Even with insta cast. It still useles using 1 or 2 kiel because the animation delay of cc is slow on gene. Unless u put some stat to agi. Is it true? If true how many agi should i put on?
I have question. I read some comment about kiel card. Even with insta cast. It still useles using 1 or 2 kiel because the animation delay of cc is slow on gene. Unless u put some stat to agi. Is it true? If true how many agi should i put on?
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Posted 15 September 2018 - 11:16 PM

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