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#1 andxres

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 04:50 AM

List your rants about it and the solution

I will start from my own.

Solution disable autocast in low ti and leveling dungeon
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Posted 28 October 2018 - 06:52 AM

If this is related to the low TI respawn, Campitor implement an NPC wich respawn certain quantity of mobs every X seconds if the counts below to X number. However, seems like the mob count do not go below that number coz by somehow, the mob got "stuck" and not dead. IDK if this is related to autocasters, but I see the mobs "Stucked" on Storm Gust from the Wizards.

 

The obviously solutions I gave was two:

 

  • Doom the map of the monsters in a similar way like the Faceworm quest or HTF quest when a X condition is true, and that condition can be a 12 hrs timer. (The most proper solution)
  • Refresh or reset the map zone every 2 days.

The NPC was a good try, but seems it doesnt work.

 

 


Edited by S207, 28 October 2018 - 06:55 AM.

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 06:58 AM

Three versions of every dungeon/turn in maps. One for active party/solo players. One for afk-autocast player. One for homun leveling alchemist /gene.

I am serious. (Okie not really but..)

At this point afk-autocast build is the new leveling meta and as much as it annoy me, I just have to meekly accept the fact that it is what it is. Just like some people hate ranger or rebel for the killsteal stereotype, is the solution is to disable their skill? No right people just have to deal with it.....

I m just at acceptance stage right now. Sigh.
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Posted 28 October 2018 - 07:49 AM

funny enough

Campitor only gives fix to solve spawn problems. However, WP stance about AFK leveling is never clear. WP keeps their mouth shut about this. I guess, WP is fine with that. RIP MMORPG


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Posted 28 October 2018 - 07:52 AM

But what about the field maps tho, nogg 2 scraba and even nct, every map gonna get that npc? :heh:


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Posted 28 October 2018 - 07:53 AM

I recall the treasure room for agits have a mechanism that will kick you out after sometime? What was it? Maybe that can help
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Posted 28 October 2018 - 08:00 AM

Best solution is to make all the auto cast gears not working on gramps map only
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Posted 28 October 2018 - 08:01 AM

this thread will be filled by aggresive call out again and the locked again.

then another one will make similar thread, will have similar end.

 


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Posted 28 October 2018 - 08:14 AM

Three versions of every dungeon/turn in maps. One for active party/solo players. One for afk-autocast player. One for homun leveling alchemist /gene.

I am serious. (Okie not really but..)

At this point afk-autocast build is the new leveling meta and as much as it annoy me, I just have to meekly accept the fact that it is what it is. Just like some people hate ranger or rebel for the killsteal stereotype, is the solution is to disable their skill? No right people just have to deal with it.....

I m just at acceptance stage right now. Sigh.

 

3 or 5 or 10 or 50 or 100 channel per maps if needed lmao
 


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Posted 28 October 2018 - 08:32 AM

set a tracker and kick out of char that not moving for more than 2-4 minutes.


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#11 SrRinio

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 08:39 AM

As i've said, and who plays with autocast build? when i say "who plays" i'm not considering AFK player, because when you are AFK, you aren't playing...

Most people are using the autocast mechanic for bad things and you are making a sugestion to punish everybody that plays with autocast, its already hard to make an autocast build waiting for OCP gear and you are suggesting to create a privilege for non autocast characters? i thought Ragnarok was a MMORPG to make a build that  you like and you can have fun with it.


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Posted 28 October 2018 - 08:55 AM

If this is related to the low TI respawn, Campitor implement an NPC wich respawn certain quantity of mobs every X seconds if the counts below to X number. However, seems like the mob count do not go below that number coz by somehow, the mob got "stuck" and not dead. IDK if this is related to autocasters, but I see the mobs "Stucked" on Storm Gust from the Wizards.
 
The NPC was a good try, but seems it doesnt work.

Only half of the mobs are controlled by the new NPC. The other half are still natural spawns which would be expected to bug out over time.
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#13 Handersen

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 08:57 AM

I was thinking to afk lvling aswell I have the gears ready for it lol
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Posted 28 October 2018 - 08:57 AM

funny enough

Campitor only gives fix to solve spawn problems. However, WP stance about AFK leveling is never clear. WP keeps their mouth shut about this. I guess, WP is fine with that. RIP MMORPG

 

Unless it is specifically stated, there is no official written stance against AFK leveling, same goes for leeching.

The major rule is as long as no bots or illegal methods involved.


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Posted 28 October 2018 - 09:09 AM

Ah... how i miss when manhole was still usable on TI maps...


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Posted 28 October 2018 - 09:42 AM

However, WP stance about AFK leveling is never clear. WP keeps their mouth shut about this. I guess, WP is fine with that. RIP MMORPG

 

i think they put themselves in a catch-22 the moment they even released autocast gear lol. where art thou, O foresight?
 


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Posted 28 October 2018 - 11:11 AM

inb4 you need party reserve gramps TI as instance  :p_hi:  before you can enter. kek :heh:


Edited by PIayboy, 28 October 2018 - 11:13 AM.

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 11:44 AM

even without AFK levelers. map would still bug. Stop spouting nonsense [Removed]


Edited by VModCinnamon, 28 October 2018 - 12:05 PM.
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#19 Gynvael

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 02:29 PM

Give us the Ti instances for the real players, those afk build guys have all maps of Rune Midgard and New world for be autistic.


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Posted 28 October 2018 - 02:38 PM

this thread will be filled by aggresive call out again and the locked again.
then another one will make similar thread, will have similar end.

We will do it again until they notice us.

Edited by andxres, 28 October 2018 - 04:25 PM.

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#21 andxres

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 02:41 PM

even without AFK levelers. map would still bug. Stop spouting nonsense [Removed]


I see what you did there.
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Posted 28 October 2018 - 02:46 PM

yeah, punish a bunch of ppl because of the system malfunctioning, go!


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Posted 28 October 2018 - 05:58 PM

Just fix the spawns. That's what they need to do.

 

In Thor for example, no one is doing AFK leveling and yet the spawn is like WPs action. It's invisible.

 

Those A F K ers can have what they want but please return the stacking of mushrooms.

 

 

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What's with that censorship?


Edited by ChaoticRK, 28 October 2018 - 07:22 PM.

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Posted 28 October 2018 - 06:40 PM

damn it Low TI!


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Posted 28 October 2018 - 07:25 PM

We are currently faced with a difficult situation that may have been avoided but there is no going back. Instead of aiming at punishing people because of how things turned out and the way they set their character up to not die and auto-cast, why don't we aim towards finding a solution that will accommodate everyone here.

There is no going back, this has to be repeated once again because we need to make this entirely clear. The only way we can find a solution is if we can do something that will still enable the auto-casters to be in a map and then have the people who are actually moving around the map or luring for their party, such example being Gramps Low TI. 

I support the idea of having a second map that could have similar function to those of instances in which you need to have a party to enter. The only condition would be that it needs some sort of protection against the AFK. I do not encourage the idea of punishing those who have the gears to do that, it is just the reality of it. I personally don't like it since it affects new people coming into maps like Gramps Low TI for some leveling which really sets the tone for new players to get to third class and start enjoying renewal should it be their first time in an official, or even iRO.

Can we work with this idea and try to develop it further?
 

Unless it is specifically stated, there is no official written stance against AFK leveling, same goes for leeching.

The major rule is as long as no bots or illegal methods involved.

The matter of the fact is, it isn't against the rules, there's no official stance as Cinnamon as stated. I say we must follow what their guidelines are and try to develop a solution that involves playing fair and going by the rules. It is the only viable solution I see after reading these threads multiple times.

I just wanted to give my input based on everything I seen and my own experience there as well. I also included a question which then turned into an explanation on the FAQs thread related to what I seen in NCT in relation to AFK Leveling.

 


Edited by CaptainSunbear, 28 October 2018 - 07:25 PM.

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