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[Varignon]

The rates is not fix after the maintenance today 2 boxes of hd carnium box and still I only reach +12 and it only for once. 

[yauhoilun]

Made 13 after 200 ores the rate is fine

[frankvanmayer]

Are rates still okay? I still have stuff to enchant. Can a GM confirm so the rest of us don't spend any needless money?

[yauhoilun]

Rate is fine after server restart in 200 ores got to 12 like 6 times and then got 13...

[Beanbean]

+13 white eddga in 2 ores (started +11)

+13 hero plate from +12 1 ore, no more upgrading for me today!

+13 white eddga in 2 ores (started +11)

+13 hero plate from +12 1 ore, no more upgrading for me today!

[AceBanner]

Okay so I used 300 ores few days ago & today another 400 ores. Got 1x +13 RTE today & another RTE from +12 (trying to make +14) is now back to +10 again.

In total till date I've used up 1,600 ores (1,400 Bradium & 200 Carnium to be exact). RNG really hits me hard, similar when opening 300 OCP boxes to get another Temp Ring & still failed. 

[yauhoilun]

Updated results

+14 old bone circlet - 237 ores
+14 consultation robe - 416 ores
+14 hero trade mail - 2837 ores (ouch wtf!)
+14 red twin edge - 539 ores
+14 cloak of survival - 110 ores (hell yes!)

Average - 828 ores (slightly better than 890 calculated average)

[mussa255]

200 ores

+10 crimson bow >+11

another 100 ores

and now it +10

this event is completely scam

i swear i will never do it again only for bound items ever

Edited by mussa255, 15 December 2018 - 06:10 AM.

[Fuuton]

spamming enter button = your death/misery/failure

[yauhoilun]

+ 16 crimson rod - 391 HD bradium

 

better than calculated average of 776 HD ores

[Ilindith]

Realized I should really make my kvm while this is around eh.

 

Ended up being extremely lucky.

 

+4 to +7 in 3 certs

 

+7 to +10 with only 3 attempts missed

 

+10 to +13 AND another level 4 weapon from +12 to +13 in 65 ores and that 2nd weapon downgraded to +10 during attempts.

 

Almost feel like pushing my 3 weapons to +14 now...

 

Choices...

[angelopaol1011]

The rates are not working fine, 2 box of HD Bradium 100 not even +11?

[yauhoilun]

The rates are not working fine, 2 box of HD Bradium 100 not even +11?

show proof or it didn't happen...because going from +10 to +11

 

without mad bunny event the rate should be 8%

 

with mad bunny event the rate should be 16%

 

so with 200 HD ores on average you should have 16 times to +11 without mad bunny event and 32 times to +11 with mad bunny event

 

therefore it would not believable without proof that you didn't hit +11 once with 200 HD ores...I don't know what the math comes out to be but the chance of that happening would probably be lottery level 1 in several million or something like that

[AceBanner]

The rates are not working fine, 2 box of HD Bradium 100 not even +11?

 

Are you sure? 

[AceBanner]

show proof or it didn't happen...because going from +10 to +11

 

without mad bunny event the rate should be 8%

 

with mad bunny event the rate should be 16%

 

so with 200 HD ores on average you should have 16 times to +11 without mad bunny event and 32 times to +11 with mad bunny event

 

therefore it would not believable without proof that you didn't hit +11 once with 200 HD ores...I don't know what the math comes out to be but the chance of that happening would probably be lottery level 1 in several million or something like that

 

It's 30% for level 3 weapon & 20% for level 4 weapon during Mad Bunny from +10 to +11. 16% starts from +12 to +13 & +14 for level 4 weapon.

[zx56vb]

2000HD, end with +10 vicious, good bye this game, maybe I shouldnt play it

[angelopaol1011]

show proof or it didn't happen...because going from +10 to +11

 

without mad bunny event the rate should be 8%

 

with mad bunny event the rate should be 16%

 

so with 200 HD ores on average you should have 16 times to +11 without mad bunny event and 32 times to +11 with mad bunny event

 

therefore it would not believable without proof that you didn't hit +11 once with 200 HD ores...I don't know what the math comes out to be but the chance of that happening would probably be lottery level 1 in several million or something like that

 

It just happened, I wasn't able to record it because I wasn't really expecting it to be this worst. I usually got +12 from just 1 box. But 2 box and still +10? no way..
 

[Fuuton]

It just happened, I wasn't able to record it because I wasn't really expecting it to be this worst. I usually got +12 from just 1 box. But 2 box and still +10? no way..
 

 

different refine rates in thor? gg
 

[yauhoilun]

It just happened, I wasn't able to record it because I wasn't really expecting it to be this worst. I usually got +12 from just 1 box. But 2 box and still +10? no way..

Well ok dont misunderstand me and take it personal but nobody would believe you without proof since it would be an exceedingly rare occurrence

[gnog]

~800 for +14 OMW
~1400 for +14 kvm

to be honest, I felt very sad after all and I empathize with you who spent a lot to refine your gears.

This refinement system is awful, dear dog.

[LordYggdrasill]

The refine system is fine the way it is. Most ppls ain’t really supposed to go up to +14, if you have decided to choose this path then the cost and risk are what you should be aware of before you get started. If you refine a lot of gears to +14 like me and Yauhoilun, you will find that your luck approaches the average 800-900 closely. Just like flipping coins, the chance will be close to 50% head/tail if you do this enough number of times. If you do it only one or two times, you may fall into the opposite poles of RNG. You need to have the right mindset and not to get addicted or demotivated.

[Fuuton]

The refine system is fine the way it is. Most ppls ain’t really supposed to go up to +14, if you have decided to choose this path then the cost and risk are what you should be aware of before you get started. If you refine a lot of gears to +14 like me and Yauhoilun, you will find that your luck approaches the average 800-900 closely. Just like flipping coins, the chance will be close to 50% head/tail if you do this enough number of times. If you do it only one or two times, you may fall into the opposite poles of RNG. You need to have the right mindset and not to get addicted or demotivated.

 

wisely worded, ygg. +14'ing stuff was never supposed to be easy, even with the event. the event merely just makes it possible to get to 14 because quite honestly, without that event, one might spend something short of $10,000 USD and still not even get there. its damn near impossible on a lvl 4 weapon or gear w/o MBS event in play.

to put out a more accurate description...
without the event in play, you could buy two full 100 boxes and still not even make it to +12
with the event in play, you could +12 something like ten times with only one 100 box.

ive spent:
- less than 10 ores trying to +14 an amistr bag
- 3xxx ores +14'ing a GMS
- 1xxx ores + 14'ing a skull cap
- 70 ores for the OMW
- 30-40 ores for the yellowfoxtail

between the omw and foxtail, i burned maybe 7 boxes of both ores trying for both gears a few days prior.

most of the people who burn countless ores wind up falling victim to what i like to call "Spamming Rage", which is basically the mood/effect that takes hold of you when you consistently fail for too long. some part of the human psyche wants to force through the fails, and mistakenly thinks that spamming will solve the problem, which only winds up in more failing lmao.

if you're not feeling the force, you ain't feeling those +14's either

 

[yauhoilun]

wisely worded, ygg. +14'ing stuff was never supposed to be easy, even with the event. the event merely just makes it possible to get to 14 because quite honestly, without that event, one might spend something short of $10,000 USD and still not even get there. its damn near impossible on a lvl 4 weapon or gear w/o MBS event in play.

to put out a more accurate description...
without the event in play, you could buy two full 100 boxes and still not even make it to +12
with the event in play, you could +12 something like ten times with only one 100 box.

ive spent:
- less than 10 ores trying to +14 an amistr bag
- 3xxx ores +14'ing a GMS
- 1xxx ores + 14'ing a skull cap
- 70 ores for the OMW
- 30-40 ores for the yellowfoxtail

between the omw and foxtail, i burned maybe 7 boxes of both ores trying for both gears a few days prior.

most of the people who burn countless ores wind up falling victim to what i like to call "Spamming Rage", which is basically the mood/effect that takes hold of you when you consistently fail for too long. some part of the human psyche wants to force through the fails, and mistakenly thinks that spamming will solve the problem, which only winds up in more failing lmao.

if you're not feeling the force, you ain't feeling those +14's either

Damn that 14 foxtail EA6/6 so jealous

[SeiginoYuusha]

the force are strong in fuuton and yau, may the force always be with you guys :V

[hammie]

I gotta ask how much money/zeny are you guys spending on average? I got one box and only got to +13 with my Crim katar