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#1 MrLekkz

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 08:52 AM

Hey Campiton,

 

Recently, i came across a bunch of new players trying out iRO for the first time, thanks to Janeway

 

However once they finish Janeway quest, they hit their first big wall: not only they need to buy new (and expensive) gears to level their new characters, they also need to spend 8m zenies ~~ to even start the 3rd job quest.

 

It is not reasonable to expect new players to pay for VIP or to farm 8m zenies, when they are only "testing out" iRO for the first time.

 

And there is another problem: Most profitable maps at 1-99 level range are full of bots (ie hunter fly / strawberry maps).

 

Because of this, new players are forced to compete with those beep-beep guys which is the worst experience iRO can give.

 

So, i would like to ask if it is possible to remove this requeriment from 3rd jobs quests.

 

(in no way my new 22 characters from Janeway would benefit from it)

 


Edited by MrLekkz, 10 February 2019 - 08:54 AM.

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#2 mikkotinamide

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 09:34 AM

Almost everybody is in their uber late game anyway. Removing a few hurdles during the early parts of the game most probably wouldn't hurt any sort of balance.


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#3 mildcontempt

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 11:58 AM

I think if you hit them with a free weekend VIP that's timed after janeway ends, it'll kind of allow for an easy transition as well if you don't want to outright remove the stone requirement. 


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#4 Nirvanna21

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 12:03 PM

or farm Novus BB, easy badges.


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Posted 10 February 2019 - 01:14 PM

Farm EMB tru going Low Ti everyday, If they cant get past tru that then safe to say this game isn't for them..... If meet newbie, give them some pointer on how to proceed based on their budget, willing-ness to spend. Heck i meet one or two that dont know Janeway up to this point in low ti alone. 

 

Banner in loading screen promoting current event would be helpful in spreading current useful current information. though yeah you need some kind of dedicated graffic designer. I suggest oursource that player that do drawing and stuff. Instead of getting getting a mixed of half-assed arts and a really good one, at least it could give some information to players.

 

 


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Posted 10 February 2019 - 03:56 PM

Freeloader asking more?
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Posted 10 February 2019 - 06:24 PM

If they want to "test iRO", they can go to the Sakray Server.
iRO is a commitment game not a one night stand.


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Posted 10 February 2019 - 06:31 PM

it is funny when you are asking everything for free


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Posted 10 February 2019 - 07:19 PM

Reset stone is only 1% of the problem on playing ragnarok. 

If they can't do something about it, what more for the rest of 99% of the problem. 


Edited by Spooky34, 10 February 2019 - 07:20 PM.

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#10 S7th

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 08:02 PM

Reset stone is only 1% of the problem on playing ragnarok. 

If they can't do something about it, what more for the rest of 99% of the problem. 

 

That image that you have of signature is something hypnotizing.


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#11 StunTosMati

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 09:43 PM

maybe free reset stone once they hit lvl 99 in ques?GG


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 04:17 AM

doing low ti is fine, hunting bb's is fine, i even had a friend going for the surveys just to get a 100kp magical stone's worth lol

 

having janeway is fine, but see it as part of the bigger picture, you train to farm with yourself being 99/70 already. if you can't, choose to get vip if that's the route you want to take. what more could one ask for?


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 06:32 AM

If they want to "test iRO", they can go to the Sakray Server.
iRO is a commitment game not a one night stand.

 

 

 

LOL!!!

 

You must be new, cause 90% of the time Sakray isn't even up for players to use.

 

As well as Sakray is an unfair representation of Ragnarok, as you can attain max level via npc in town.

 

Attitudes like this is why the server and game are suffering and why players refuse to continue playing.


Edited by TattooedChef, 11 February 2019 - 06:49 AM.

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#14 magiccircle

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:21 AM

I'm surprised more people are against this than for it, I spent over 500m buying reset stones for people. I cant understand how such a normal step in the game is behind a pay wall. Warps I get, death penalty I get, heck I even get the gimped gramps and quest exp/jp. But people need to transcend, people need to go third class the game doesn't even start until 140+.


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:27 AM

I think NEW players should LEARN how to play the game, and not to just click an NPC and BEG for a living.

Too much babysitting doesn't even make you PLAY the game normally.

There are lots of useful links to begin with, all they have to do is to READ them.

There won't be any excuse if they can't read English, they chose an English server for God's sake.

 

2 cents.


Edited by Vladdin, 11 February 2019 - 12:41 PM.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 09:09 AM

I'm surprised more people are against this than for it, I spent over 500m buying reset stones for people. I cant understand how such a normal step in the game is behind a pay wall. Warps I get, death penalty I get, heck I even get the gimped gramps and quest exp/jp. But people need to transcend, people need to go third class the game doesn't even start until 140+.

 

Again, this stems to janeway being stupid for new players. It is an alt builder or a fast forward for existing ones.

 

New players learn little to nothing, get next to no zeny or items and by not doing a BB focused approach or doing no Low TI get no EMBs for their work therefore are left scrambling at the 99/70 mark.

 

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#17 hammie

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 12:11 PM

Janeway definitely seems to be geared towards existing players. Like Nirvana said players learn very little from this event. Though if they are 99/70 they should hopefully have an easier time hunting for zeny or emb. It's dumb to get rid of reset stones. Everything can't be handed out to you. Not to mention it is very easy to make zeny nowadays.
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Posted 11 February 2019 - 12:46 PM

Janeway is actually already a good help for newbies (specially if they really wanted to have an advantage among others in this game).

Protip for newbies:

a. make all three Ragnarok logins inside your Warpportal account

b. fill up every character slot (9 total)

 - make sure every ragnarok account has a merchant class (with vending, discount, and overcharge)

 - get atleast an acolyte class in one of the accounts (for your NON VIP warps)

 - make sure your MAIN character can farm zennies at 99/70 ~ 3rd job

 - consider making a rebel -> gunslinger as a starter for easy zeny

c. i don't know what else you guys want other than trying to make the server look like a private one


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 02:04 PM

janeway did its part, which is to help in possibly the first hurdle of playing ro for a newbie (addressing no one to play with on early levels as well as potentially needing vip to level at a tolerable amount of time), they just need to realize that not everything comes for free

the initiation is the magical stone. the amount of people who did janeway, if they at least worked together in low ti should be fine. leveled myself, actually, low ti has been tactical recently. since people didnt have a phen, some capitalized on using their paladins and rgs to sacrifice targets
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Posted 13 February 2019 - 08:02 PM

I too believe it will prevent many people from even bothering to hang around.. we all say the server needs more population so giving some people a clear way to get 100+ isnt the worst idea riiiiiiiiight?


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 08:04 PM

I too believe it will prevent many people from even bothering to hang around.. we all say the server needs more population so giving some people a clear way to get 100+ isnt the worst idea riiiiiiiiight?

 

What they need is a more structured tutoring leveling system that slowly transitions them into actual game play. People need to understand things by the time they hit third class, otherwise they will be up -_- creek without a paddle.


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Posted Yesterday, 06:34 AM

I too believe it will prevent many people from even bothering to hang around.. we all say the server needs more population so giving some people a clear way to get 100+ isnt the worst idea riiiiiiiiight?

 

Janeway already made it felt like a breeze at low levels. I think it's time for new players to learn how to read. #read2lead


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