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[Nirvanna21]

https://docs.google....dit?usp=sharing

 

Just felt like expressing an idea I had for RO, ultimately a pipe dream but it can be nice to put things down in writing sometimes :U

[lorenz1375]

Proposal subforum is where drrams are burried and spit on

[Nirvanna21]

Proposal subforum is where drrams are burried and spit on

 

Hopefully mods read the title, then the document, then realise that it is more my personal thoughts on what would make RO a little better, rather than a proposal. May look like one, but it was designed knowing that it went against so much of the grain that it just makes it completely unfeasible.

[blackCROSSCY]

haha all these sound pretty impossible for WP to implement, you might have better luck getting private server owners to make one like that

[DarkOrinus]

i did read an mvp loot turned into monster token idea before (and then have seasonal opportunities like +10 upgrading possible, or any other appealing thing there may be)

 

idk about the complexity of how the "not" proposal is designed but it seems like a lot of work for something that's bound to phase out anyway

 

 

[Akupuff]

Dude, in order to achieve your dream, I would highly recommend u to play private servers wherein 1) kill a poring to make u lvl 175, 2) 10000x exp/drop rate - achieve ur mvp loots and cards and collect 100pcs of them 3) 1-click refine to +15 all ur gear. 

 

Then,, voala! HAPPY =)

 

You missed the point. He never mentioned EXP anywhere, first of all. Second, this is design to give MVPs relevance and to lower the gap between OCP and in-game content power. OCP levels of power are so normalized, it makes many stuff relevant and many take it for granted. Now we're looking for replacements based on budget, not options. This will also help new players reach near end-game levels of power much more easily, but still reward longer time playing.

 

I'd only suggest a buffing to MVPs along with this, because that rate change will incentivize compers and so, every MVP will see a raise of players showing up to kill. That new buff that makes MVPs immune to certain types of damage along the fight is neat. More AoEs, better healing, and no more "Same spot respawn" trait for MVPs.

 

Not that this is a proposal, though 

[Rockincola]

^ I agree with Akupuff. It feels like there's going to be a point where pretty much everyone will have such OP items, there's no more challenges to anything. 

New players won't know how it's like to actually die 5 million times to an MVP. If you have all the OP items, the only thing left to do is PVP or WOE.

Then by that time iRO will pretty much be similar to a private server.  

 

[VModCinnamon]

Edited topic tittle for better clarification, let's leave it at that.

[Zander]

About mvp loots i have to agree but they really should boost them up first. People kill mvp like porings lol. Mvp should have higher hp and def. And with ocp gears now they should match that caliber of damage towards mvps stats.

[mildcontempt]

The MVP loot thing should be a fun spectacle, and personally I think we already have the means to throw useful stuff in already that isn't game breaking or destabilizing but makes it fun.

 

Give them the chance to drop gold bullion(s), treasure chests, ygg seeds/berries, non-sea-god coins for enchanting, and with very rare chance (like 1%) a safe to 7 cert bag or something of the sort. 

 

Getting an elunium is... just whompwhomp.mp3. 

[MrLekkz]

My suggestion? Let's remove cash shop ores and certs, and only leave normal elu and ori. Imagine the adrenaline rush you would get from refining an abyss dress! People would sit near the old refine man just to laugh their ass off when someone breaks something expensive!!! It would bring the community closer and WP would make tons of money from people buying OCPs just to get their abyss dress to +7!!!!

 

 

HIRE ME CAMPITOR

Edited by MrLekkz, 28 February 2019 - 01:11 PM.

[Akupuff]

The MVP loot thing should be a fun spectacle, and personally I think we already have the means to throw useful stuff in already that isn't game breaking or destabilizing but makes it fun.

 

Give them the chance to drop gold bullion(s), treasure chests, ygg seeds/berries, non-sea-god coins for enchanting, and with very rare chance (like 1%) a safe to 7 cert bag or something of the sort. 

 

Getting an elunium is... just whompwhomp.mp3. 

 

Yeah, buffing the rewards would be nice. One of the worst offenders is Turtle General. Most of his drops are super outdated now, so the rarity isn't really justified anymore.

 

My suggestion? Let's remove cash shop ores and certs, and only leave normal elu and ori. Imagine the adrenaline rush you would get from refining an abyss dress! People would sit near the old refine man just to laugh their ass off when someone breaks something expensive!!! It would bring the community closer and WP would make tons of money from people buying OCPs just to get their abyss dress to +7!!!!

 

 

HIRE ME CAMPITOR

 

Certs are still a thing you can obtain with in-game means, so +7 would be normal. And as Nirvanna said, changing the refining property so that fails downgrade instead of breaking with normal ores would give them value again and people wouldn't lose the equipment to something as innate to their power. As a flip side, if you want to go the extra mile with enchanting, that's when the breakage comes in. But because you wanted the big extra, not because you wanted to get your gear working normally.

 

Breakage while refining is like fragmenting the disc on your computer and it getting bricked because it failed to do so. The computer shouldn't just explode from trying to do something it's supposed to be doing to make it more efficient. Makes more sense for it to explode from trying to add a super advanced piece of tech that would let it be way more powerful than the average computer. And even then, he proposes 50% chance success. That's not bad at all.

[Nirvanna21]

All I know is, imagine a game of Ragnarok Online, where you could choose to self farm stuff, or pay money, depending on your preference?

[Zander]

I’ve played this game for so long and I remember those days having +7 gears is something u can show off to people and they’ll be omg lol.

Im up for that change but i dont think its possible now. Damage has been done. Unless they are willing to really make some major changes like the upgrade system and im up for it. Maybe after +10 then it dont break. But from +4 to +10 its all gamble,Lets have that excitement and disappointment of upgrading gears again hahaha.

[MrLekkz]

I dont even know who the -_-s buys the stuff i get from instances. Excluding faceworm skin and nid garb, they are all worthless to me. Who the -_-s still needs a temporal boots? A thanatos katar?

 

Sometimes i think it's Campitor that goes on a buying spree just to make us happy.

Edited by MrLekkz, 28 February 2019 - 05:29 PM.

[Nirvanna21]

I’ve played this game for so long and I remember those days having +7 gears is something u can show off to people and they’ll be omg lol.

Im up for that change but i dont think its possible now. Damage has been done. Unless they are willing to really make some major changes like the upgrade system and im up for it. Maybe after +10 then it dont break. But from +4 to +10 its all gamble,Lets have that excitement and disappointment of upgrading gears again hahaha.

 

A guild member of mine is playing the game without using any cash shop gears. Issue is they are playing a Gene, a class that didn't really need them to be dominate for the content.

 

I would start throwing aside my ocp and cash shop stuff just to have some fun again. However the stuff we have would just gimp most of my classes so hard

[blackCROSSCY]

Ranger should still be doable with just WW set+ big cross bow and sound amplifiers for good dmg cheaply. Crit wise, old headgear is still game content and you can still use bakonawa, abusive robe and the biolab HBP/valk mant for garment. It would still work out okay in farm speed for instance, just not as OP as with OCP.

 

In the past it was dominantly gene gx and then ranger as third choice for farming afterall. Almost everything else is bad if you don own some sort of high end mvp. If iRO was to be better, it would be to let some of these OCP gears in the future become obtainable from in-game instances (but account bound if obtained this way), so people get incentive to play. Like how mobile games now work, there's always some event with farmable rares and new gacha. Active players will eventually want both, so people end up playing for years and events after events (while paying for gacha). Just think back to Puzzles and dragon etc.

Edited by blackCROSSCY, 28 February 2019 - 08:37 PM.

[lorenz1375]

The real problem with OCP is that it updates so fast while actual game content takes years to update

[KyrieDielle]

because OCP update makes more money than content update

[lorenz1375]

because OCP update makes more money than content update

Make cfrag 16.1 and 16.2 tokens cash shop obtainabke and we'll see

[Nirvanna21]

I legit tried to swap some gears on my Ranger, to make him more in game item related than cash shop. Legit spent 2b on Carnium to try +12 a good +10 faceworm skin to be a nice replacement garment and got nothing.

 

For half that price I could get a Heroic Backpack and be just as well off. GG gaem.

[Ashuckel]

Told ya to do it on a Sorc :U