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#76 KriticalAssassin

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:17 PM

That new OCP system, wot...ewww...


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:18 PM

From steps 1 to 9 you can get any item from the OCP archive, will well, is anything they decide to put in there from the past like 30 OCP iterations. It's not even specified if you can or not pull newly added items in these steps, just on the last one. And even then, it's random over what they determine to put in there.

So instead of 300kp at a small chance of getting what you desire, it's now a 3000kp for like what, a 20% shot at it? Depends on how many items in there that month. Also keeping in mind 2700kp of these probably resulted in things from 2+ years ago that you don't even remember exist.

 

Yeah I didn't realize the "archive" part meant past stuff, I edited my post in light of that since this is pretty... meh. 

 

For some reason I thought the steps were for the current box only and were just a reward for purchasing multiple boxes at once. Call it "naive optimism" I guess. Lel. 


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:18 PM

It's a good idea to be able to get something guaranteed when you spend enough, but lol do you look at how many items you have total in OCP now? We are at box 28, box 29 is next. 

There are around 11-12 items per box, not to mention box 1-3 has like 20 and half of them are farmable gears in game. You are telling us to gamble completely random from around 400 items.

 

No thank you. 


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:19 PM

wich is why for me it's a much better system if you just keep the boxes the way they have been for the past months, and slap this guaranteed pull on top of it. That at least encourages ppl spending the 3000kp for one of the big items of the month.( And put's a ceiling on it's market price for a while)


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:22 PM

If that is so...well, guess I can finally save up for that RTX 2080 I wanted.


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:23 PM

IMO a 3000KP crate with 9 of current OCP and 1 ticket might be more favorable, that way atleast the 9 random things they get are from current OCP, then the ticket being the "10th" one works like it was proposed for a semi-rare or rare item(of current OCP).


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:23 PM

Even 4500 KP for a guaranteed item is okay. It would give you 15 chances at it, and if all fails you can choose what you want. OCP items boost builds up and make them quite fun for the average player. Player retention drops when those average plays spend hundreds of $$$ and get nothing.

 

You could argue that items to perform functions of MVP cards would merit more spent, but let's be honest, those are a dime a dozen and we are far too down the rabbit hole to give a -_- about that.


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:26 PM

So step 10 is basically buying a current ocp box since it's random gear and not a guaranteed tier.

So why would I spend 2700kp on boxter stuffs?


I don't get the reason behind this.

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:27 PM

Who came up with this idea lol, who fed you guys these things now. 


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:29 PM

Editing the OP and posting this here:

 

Based on user feedback we will make the following adjustments.

Ticket Price Changed to 400kp
Step 10 updated to players Choice as to which featured item they receive.

New Summary is as follows.
 

Yggdrasil Ascension is our new OCP Item System. (we are testing)
 
Buy the Tickets from the cash shop and take it to the Yggdrasil Tree Explorer located in the Eden Group. The Explorer will take the ticket and give you your reward. Using the ticket will not consume it but teleport you to the Southern Gate of Prontera. Ticket Claiming is divided into 10 steps. Each step gives a specific reward and when you reach step 10 with the tickets it starts all over again.
 
Each Ticket Costs 400 pts.
Rewards:
Each ticket when claimed will give a reward according to it's step.
Step 1-4 Random Gear from the OCP item archive and 2 Bloody Branch
Step 5 Guaranteed Random Gear rated Semi Rare+ from the OCP item archive
Step 6-9 Random Gear from the OCP item archive and 2 HE Bubble Gum
Step 10 Guaranteed Gear choice from this month's featured list. (Items in testing)
 
Exact lists for the archive, and featured list will be published during maintenance.

This means at by Step 10 you will have spent 4000kp and received the following
8 Random OCP Gear
1 Random Semi Rare + OCP Gear
1 OCP Gear choice from this month's featured list.
8 Bloody Branches.
8 HE Bubble Gum.

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:30 PM

Okay now step 10 is much much better. It's like either spend a crazy amount tying your luck or pay 4k kp to get an item of your choice and 9 other older items.

This I'm okay with
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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:32 PM

that's awful


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:33 PM

 

1 OCP Gear choice from this month's featured list.

 

So let me make sure I understand this correctly. Step 10 is 1 OCP gear from this month's featured list.

 

By this month's featured list do you mean a list you guys will come up with randomly? Or do you mean basically things from this month's box i.e. this is March and I can pick something from OCP28 (March OCP box) 

 

EDIT:

I don't know how to feel about this. Yeah it's nice being able to pick something rare right away from buying 10 tickets. But what if what you want isn't a rare or semi-rare but just a normal item?

Essentially the prices of OCP went up by 1 dollar and the range of things you get is even more RNG than before.

 

You let us pick an item from buying 10 boxes to eliminate the RNG but then add more RNG by increasing the pool of items to 500. 


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:34 PM

Is this in addition to having OCP boxes as they normally are, or a complete replacement of the old system?


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:36 PM

Is this in addition to having OCP boxes as they normally are, or a complete replacement of the old system?

replacing it '-'


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:36 PM

Why camp? Why must be 4k? It hurt my wallet so badly. Just keep at 3k okay?
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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:38 PM

So let me make sure I understand this correctly. Step 10 is 1 OCP gear from this month's featured list.
 
By this month's featured list do you mean a list you guys will come up with randomly? Or do you mean basically things from this month's box i.e. this is March and I can pick something from OCP28 (March OCP box) 
 
EDIT:

I don't know how to feel about this. Yeah it's nice being able to pick something rare right away from buying 10 tickets. But what if what you want isn't a rare or semi-rare but just a normal item?
Essentially the prices of OCP went up by 1 dollar and the range of things you get is even more RNG than before.
 
You let us pick an item from buying 10 boxes to eliminate the RNG but then add more RNG by increasing the pool of items to 500.

It would be from the April list. Each month's featured list would mostly new items + a few older items mixed in.
 

Is this in addition to having OCP boxes as they normally are, or a complete replacement of the old system?

This is supposed to replace the normal boxes. Players have stated that they wanted more predictability. IE when they buy 40 boxes they get exactly what they were after.
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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:38 PM

side note here.

Now the 1month VIP + 1500kp package doesnt get you a round 5 boxes per month anymore, it gets you only 3, with stuff that you don't want from it.


Keep the box price the same, just adjust the number of steps for the guaranteed reward.



I was almost thinking of playing more seriously again, even buying/replacing gears and stuff, but man this is such a huge boner killer :U 

thank you for keeping me from spending, gj


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:39 PM

Do whatever you guys want, it's your job on the line not mine. I don't -_- care anymore lol. 


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:40 PM

Wait.. it's replacing the box? Not complimentary?
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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:40 PM

Do whatever you guys want, it's your job on the line not mine. I don't fucking care anymore lol.

Were trying to gather feedback on this system from your perspective. The debate on how to structure everything has been going on for weeks.
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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:42 PM

Why the first boxes have random OCP items?

 

What about Boxter?

 

Still don't like it -_-


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:43 PM

at least give us 1 random mvp to fight on each steps  :p_swt:


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:45 PM

What's the problem with keeping boxes the way they have been in the past few months but just slap this "crate deal" on top of it, without having to scout through ALLLL of the random hundreds of items in every single box opening.

 

 

You will still get literally the same amount of money, or more, and the box just feels way more rewarding.


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 04:45 PM

So to get a new item, the only option is to spend 4k kp and get 9 older items and selecting 1 new item.

If there are 5 new items, I will need to spend 20k to get all 5 of them. This is assuming all of them are as good as the rest.

How about uncommon and common new items? Would people still spend 4k or hope they get it next month from step 1-9.

Or are we only introducing powerful items in the list now.
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