Hi, could we get a full update of Crimson weapons? IIRC Crimsons were around last time I played RO, back in like 2008 or so. I just discovered Vicious Mind weapons which have a similar refinement bonus to Crimsons (Atk + (Upgrade level * upgrade level) up to maximum of 15). but they're not a full upgrade. At this point I don't see a point of not fully updating Crimsons for the sake of "keeping the value of crimsons up"- I think very few people buy crimsons these days. I think adding an NPC to buy them for 200-400k would help players who are at that level earn zeny.
Few differences between Crimsons and Vicious Mind:
1. Crimsons have an element to them. This could be 200% damage on a monster if you get the element correct. From what I see, Vicious Mind weapons don't have an element (none on the board right now have an element and I have looted 3-4, none have elements)
2. Crimsons have 2 card slots, Vicious Mind only has 1 slot
3. Crimsons also have 5 Atk for every 10 base levels above 70.
If nothing else, this could act as a way to make zeny for F2P players, and a zeny sink for P2W players.
Here's my situation: I'm looking for a spear that can destroy angels, because I'm a hybrid Genesis Ray RG. Clearly my GR wouldn't work against angels, so I'm a hybrid (vanishing point for holy immune). I need a shadow property weapon, with 2 card slots to put in a Butoijo card inside of it. Problem with Boost Lance: No property. Problem with Vicious Mind: No property, and only 1 card slot. The only option is a Crimson, which is an old weapon and has 90 base weapon atk.
If someone had a weapon that was Shadow (RNG looting) + 20-25% damage on holy (RNG rolling on 10-25%), + 20% on angel (RNG rolling on 10-20%) and had 2 card slots, I would pay 100m for it, maybe more.
But that weapon doesn't exist. On top of that as mentioned, no one really buys Crimsons anymore. They kind of just sit on the market. If we added an NPC to buy Crimsons for 200-400k, and added an "updated Crimson", we could start seeing weapons on the market for 20-100M again. The elemental advantage is very important, converters don't have holy or shadow. You could also make some late game monsters immune to elemental converters (but allow weapon properties to work on them). It's just a way for F2P players to make money and P2W players to sink zeny.
PS if this is done please don't forget the +5 atk per base level over 70 that crimson has..... TBH if you update the Crimsons the only effect (if done properly) that is different from the Crimsons is going from Weapon Base Damage 90 -> (Vicious Mind Spear is like 140). It's only 50 Atk tbh, but it does get expanded by your STR. (You could also make it higher base atk than Vicious mind to make it better, like 180 instead).
I think we can all agree as cash shop items get stronger, monsters are also getting stronger, making it harder for F2P players. When you create a new weapon like a Vicious Mind weapon, in an instance that is "manageable" ie doable for F2P players, you should lean towards "make it stronger than it's former self".
And if nothing else, you could make it so vicious mind weapons can have properties. You could make the argument that you want everyone to be P2W and buy OCPs and cash shop items, but Ii've been here for OCP 33 and OCP 34. What I see is crazy undervaluation (fire sale type of behavior) of anything that isn't like 2% and above. It makes sense because so many players are at end game and have all their gear. If F2P players could make more money by selling crimsons to NPCs and (properly upgraded Crimsons) to players for 20M+, there might be more demand for those Tier B items.
Its not a zeny sink
And its a way to introduce inflation quickly