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[ChickenPoyo]

Basically there needs to be an open dialog where Renewal players agree on what items get transferred to Chaos. Let's not forget that even though you use the word "transfer", said item is basically being duped (copied) onto the Chaos server. The only reason I see for someone opting for it besides sentimental value (which in and of itself is a vague word because my first MVP card is sentimental, but so can be my 2nd, so and so forth) is that they will RMT it in the future as Classic will be no more. Remember that these players always had the option of Renewal open to them but they chose to play Classic and now you want to transfer them to Chaos for what? Why not just let them create new characters and level it here. The mechanics are different, so what will getting them on Chaos achieve? If you really want to transfer them, then opt for Thor, throw a Janeway event that is live only on that server, they can 99/70 and then begin their 3rd class journey.

 

 

I am not trying to start a fire, its just that so many server players never had the option or say in such matters, Thor players literally got backstabbed by their publisher, had to shift here, and even they didn't get to bring their Gods or MVPs, so why Classic? If you seriously want to drag Classic players to Renewal, make a third server and dump them there. If they are allowed to bring their items here, these items will not have a valid source before they were created on Chaos and knowing the stellar GM staff reputation, they will delete it at some point because ta-da there was no source.

 

 

[DarkOrinus]

gods, nothing more and nothing else

 

thor was basically too much, we had cash shop obtained mvp cards lying around (mvp card drops are disabled and was sold via cash shop, having them in tons of supply), as well as several game breaking gears fit for renewal (the first 5% demi human reduction as a mid gear, is very popular and abundant there) that could have broken the entire thing. it was a pvp/woe heavy server with broken things fit and suited for the tastes of certain people, which was not the intent of chaos (at the time)

 

classic on the other hand is more contained. we sort of know the things you already have in regards to item counterparts. the most that could happen is the items you have be altered to the renewal item via replication

 

bottom line, god items are much easier to track, and is assured to have a counter part in the server. in terms of items of sentimental value (hats maybe?) as long as they have their counterparts maybe? but not costume versions. and this should be verified via database. although i suggest less items the better, to prevent further chances of failure

[andxres]

Chaos player be like we need more update

[SeiginoYuusha]

Let just merge classic, re:start, and thor to chaos renewal :V

 

let them retain their items, chaos renewal need more affordable mvp cards and god gears :V

 

The benefits for wp are they will be able to suppress the server maintenance cost, making them easier to monitor illicit activities in single server than multiple servers. and hopefully from customer service perspective, wp will be able to serve their customers better than they are now

[andxres]

Chaos is "pure" server.
All outside chaos are impure.

[SeiginoYuusha]

Chaos is collective being, born by synthesizing Ymir, Ygg, Valk, etc servers.

 

that is why it was called Chaos renewal, not the original / primordial chaos from the game inception days :V

[lorenz1375]

Did Orinus say Thor?

Lmfao thats pRO lol

[azumak1]

yeah uh if you think Chaos is pure and untouched then LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

 

>ygg, sakray and valk servers merged in there, lol ok

>infinite ET GTB spawning abuse from years ago, cards weren't removed and playerbase went unpunished, neat that's fun right

>seen screenshots of things like MVP-slotted Temp boots with 2x enchants that were created by a naive GM, thanks to a creative ticket requesting item recovery

 

and I'm just scratching the surface, many players here know more about this sorta thing than I do. almost nothing will come over from classic but I'd be fine with any/everything they have, shrug.

[blackCROSSCY]

nothing will get imported. discussion ended. This has been mentioned already but nothing can be imported because classic will be opened up like Sakray for build testing.

Edited by blackCROSSCY, 01 June 2019 - 05:55 AM.

[Ramses]

There is a big difference between pRO  and classic.... pRO is a foreign entity, while classic is from the same publisher. Altough classic db is probably a mess due to all the custom changes they had to make to implement certain content, it's still in their domain, so, considering previous server closures, a merge is the thing they should do.

 

They could just rollback the server to before they implemented those npcs and let people send tickets for the items they want transferred(limited ammount) in order to limit the ammount of data they have to merge which would seem viable as in fixing the conflicting ids they would have.

 

 

Would you like it if instead of classic it was renewal and they were like (i'm sorry but you're screwed up) just like they did to the classic pop?.

Letting classic effort to farm mvps and make gods go to waste is a hard  slap in the face for classic players.

[Fuuton]

Chaos is "pure" server.
All outside chaos are impure.

 

i really want to make a f-ton of race jokes with this but half the people wouldnt even get it

[andxres]

"Pure" and pure.

You could tell the difference, couldn't you?

[andxres]

This thread should on behalf of thor player instead renewal

[ugotit]

Chaos is 7 servers including the previous permanent 2x rate Sakray server. Nothing classic can bring will put a dent into whats already been merged in. For perspective before Sakray was merged the seals were being rolled by the GM Team and guild leaders were allowed to trade in god pieces at 5:1 ratio for missing pieces they needed to finish sets.  Every other server hosted by Warpportal was merged so there was a reasonable expectation that a merge or transfer would be offered for Classic.

[nyyaan]

1. Remember that these players always had the option of Renewal open to them but they chose to play Classic and now you want to transfer them to Chaos for what? 

 

- If I had to pick between Classic and Renewal and I liked Classic, I would pick Classic. If Classic was no more, then I would play Renewal because I loved RO. You love eating McDonald but if there isnt McDonald around, A&W will also make you as happy.

 

2. Why not just let them create new characters and level it here.

 

- It's easier for you to tell people to start over until it happens to you. In fact, let Classic players come and reset server. I've got lots of unused powerful OCPs and MvPs and I dont mind if they're all gone if server is reset. I think this is fair to cleanse this rotten server once and all for.

 

3. The mechanics are different, so what will getting them on Chaos achieve?

 

- People have an ability to experience and learn new things. People should go out and experience new hobbies and adventures. Its a learning process. I'm sure that if Classic folks still stayed with WP until this point, they're a loyal player and they would not mind trying out Chaos.

 

Many RO players are playing RoM and RoM is nothing like Trans WoE where everyone stands on ME and spams few skills. In fact RoM WoE is more like 3rd class Renewal WoE. People still play and enjoy the game.

 

4. then opt for Thor, throw a Janeway event that is live only on that server, they can 99/70 and then begin their 3rd class journey.

 

- That depends on them. If most Classic players play from SEA, then merge to Thor otherwise merge to Chaos.

 

Honestly, I am considering to come back if Classic players join WoE. They may say they will but when they're in Chaos, they'd rather RMT items and dont WoE. That's unfortunate but ... RMT is not a big issue. It's everywhere. People RMT or abuse and exploit bugs and such.

[lorenz1375]

Thor will accept them with open arms either through pure migration or a free max lvl char it is fine

Every ro player who wants to play this dying game deserves a home

[Lux010]

gods, nothing more and nothing else

thor was basically too much, we had cash shop obtained mvp cards lying around (mvp card drops are disabled and was sold via cash shop, having them in tons of supply), as well as several game breaking gears fit for renewal (the first 5% demi human reduction as a mid gear, is very popular and abundant there) that could have broken the entire thing. it was a pvp/woe heavy server with broken things fit and suited for the tastes of certain people, which was not the intent of chaos (at the time)

classic on the other hand is more contained. we sort of know the things you already have in regards to item counterparts. the most that could happen is the items you have be altered to the renewal item via replication

bottom line, god items are much easier to track, and is assured to have a counter part in the server. in terms of items of sentimental value (hats maybe?) as long as they have their counterparts maybe? but not costume versions. and this should be verified via database. although i suggest less items the better, to prevent further chances of failure

HAHAHAHA DONT MAKE ME LAUGH!

[Scuba]

Merge everything. Who cares? None of it matters when it all closes. Plus Chaos had rampant duping. I doubt Classic could bring over anything that would significantly change how bad things already are.

[DarkOrinus]

i'm glad to have made people happy

[Icarus05]

gods, nothing more and nothing else

 

thor was basically too much, we had cash shop obtained mvp cards lying around (mvp card drops are disabled and was sold via cash shop, having them in tons of supply), as well as several game breaking gears fit for renewal (the first 5% demi human reduction as a mid gear, is very popular and abundant there) that could have broken the entire thing. it was a pvp/woe heavy server with broken things fit and suited for the tastes of certain people, which was not the intent of chaos (at the time)

 

classic on the other hand is more contained. we sort of know the things you already have in regards to item counterparts. the most that could happen is the items you have be altered to the renewal item via replication

 

bottom line, god items are much easier to track, and is assured to have a counter part in the server. in terms of items of sentimental value (hats maybe?) as long as they have their counterparts maybe? but not costume versions. and this should be verified via database. although i suggest less items the better, to prevent further chances of failure

 

[Removed]

 

The cash items currently we have (the OCP) already overshadowed the G-set,pRO exclusive items and God items (Yes. thor have a lots of gods but all of them are worthless pieces of garbage in the current meta. like try to wear god items such as bryhild, asprika and you will be no doubt. die in few seconds. the only god item that are still useful is Hervor,meningard and mljonir unless if you are a special kind of idiot who doesn't know how to be chakri when using thor's hammer which i occasionally see it and laugh)

 

now. other than that. pRO items are not even working. Just ask the VMODS on what happen to their project of restoring the pRO exclusive item's functionality. as far as i know. the only items that are restored properly is guyak pudding and midgard serpent hat which i believe chaos have the MSH and thor's guyak pudding stocks is running out..maybe around a year or so it will be scarce or wipe out if the iRO will not provide a constant source of it.

 

there are several items from pRO are not working. like black feather beret (no description. no function..but there's an ocp version so.. WHAT THE HELL) RWC 2012 hat's ASPD bonus is not working..actually even the ATK if i remember, RWC 2013 hat is not working. pRO set (pRO's version of WOE set) is not working and several more pRO items are not working. if they are working. their bonuses doesn't have any chance to compete with the OCP's effect that made me quit and left this stupid server.

Edited by VModCinnamon, 01 June 2019 - 08:47 PM.
Mod Edit: That was unnecessary...

[Ashuckel]

pretty sure there is a (at the time) that you've missed

[VModCinnamon]

No items are being transferred per staff statement, plus there are further testings to be done in regarding moving data from Classic server. 

Users are presented with a choice to transfer selective items of sentimental value by sending a ticket, such as items won from events (e.g headgears). The coming requests will be evaluated, they may be accepted or denied.

With that aside, the dramatic postings of server vs server are not helpful and have derailed the thread. If you wish to add a concern or comment in regarding the plan use the pinned topic here.

 

Topic is now locked.

 

Thank you for understanding.