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#1 Chorvaqueen

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Posted 16 November 2019 - 04:47 PM

Last run: May 17 - Today we beat floor 85 and 90 in one run. MA + Enforcer Shoes was definitely a game changer. :heh:

 

 

Previous runs:

Spoiler

 

Milestones:

Spoiler

 

 

So a pair of casuals (that's us :heh:) started doing weekly ET runs to see how far we can go.
It's a 2-man +4 alt team.
 
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140/46 - SC - backup damage (bow + AS)
141/48 - GX - main damage (RC + crit)
106 - AB (alt) - buffs + pneuma slave + backup for certain mvps
99 - biochem (alt) - loot mule + fcp slave + supplies

99 - alchem (alt) - supplies
99 - SL (alt) - link slave
 
Gears + stats
SC:

Spoiler

 
GX:
Spoiler

 
 
Mostly got our gears from token refine events so we don't have much budget buying other expensive gears.
If there's any advice about stats, level, & (affordable) gears we would love to hear it. :thx:


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Posted 16 November 2019 - 05:46 PM

AB stay back under pneuma to block Hell's Judgement, spam Safety Wall on whoever is at melee range of Samurai.


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Posted 23 November 2019 - 05:57 PM

ET run again today, still stuck at 40. :heh: Consolation: we got better loot than usual.

 

We lasted longer than usual with spamming safety wall. Though I need to get the hang of remembering the timers for pneuma :heh:

 

We'll try again next week.

 

[edit]

Should I save up and get a AKx2 Chakram Sharp5x2 for the GX?


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Posted 23 November 2019 - 06:17 PM

The most practical solution is to ditch the SC, and use the biochem to acid bomb samurai while the GX with hallu walk tanks while alt AB heals/pneuma/safety wall.


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Posted 23 November 2019 - 06:40 PM

You can try having the sc sswitch to severe rainstorm so he can just cast in the background (honestly, idk if this is better dmg but you'll be able to focus on your other character better)

For safety wall and pneuma spam, place multiple casts alternately side by side so you can simply walk back and forth when one is about to expire.

Edit: why not just decard the hunterfly from your current chakram and replace that one with an ak card? Then use that saved up zeny for exploring other gear slots instead (like maybe making temp boots with good enchant)

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 03:14 AM

thanks to the puri stone today, we got our ET run earlier than usual

 

Finally managed to get past floor 40. Dark claw+EDP+CI+crits and SW+pneuma did the job. Thanks to all who posted advice here so far really appreciate it.

 

Now we're stuck at floor 60, bullied by the biokids (egnigem). :heh:


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Posted 29 November 2019 - 01:06 PM

I've always thought that it was weird how egnigem is actually harder than some of the bosses that come after floor 60 :v

This is where your sc can step up.
If your sc kept arrow storm, he'll probably be able to easily snipe eggni and run/backslide before she and her entourage can react. Just need to clear the room so you have enough running space lol

Btw, idk if your sc has Urgent Escape , but, if you successfully anklesnare a boss, it can also stop their slaves from chasing after you(even if you stand beside them lol) if they didn't aggro yet.
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Posted 05 December 2019 - 03:04 PM

I've always thought that it was weird how egnigem is actually harder than some of the bosses that come after floor 60 :v

This is where your sc can step up.
If your sc kept arrow storm, he'll probably be able to easily snipe eggni and run/backslide before she and her entourage can react. Just need to clear the room so you have enough running space lol

Btw, idk if your sc has Urgent Escape , but, if you successfully anklesnare a boss, it can also stop their slaves from chasing after you(even if you stand beside them lol) if they didn't aggro yet.

 

I tried doing your advice for my SC's play style but ironically this is how we beat Incantation Samurai from last night's run. :heh:

I did the same on boss egnigem but there are moments where she could chase me until I get cornered. Don't think I managed to catch her with Urgent Escape trap though.

 

I forgot how much damage my AS was doing to her (probably not much) but I'll try to pull the logs from the replay file later. Seems like I'm doing 30-33k damage to her with AS. I'm gonna stop being a cheapskate and stock up more converters next time. My question is, can the slave aco heal her a lot?

 

[edit]

I didn't see your edited post about decarding the HF card and replacing it with AK until now, sorry.


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Posted 05 December 2019 - 11:52 PM

Hit-and-run usually always works :heh:

iirc, urgent escape places the trap directly under the user, so walking up to beside egnigem and then casting the skill will immediately catch her in the 3x3 area (if it doesn't catch one of her slaves). For the snaring trick to work, you need to make sure neither of you attack each other before trapping or else the slaves will also aggro and start chasing as well.

Why not just use crystal/frozen arrows though? It's way cheaper and less to worry about haha

iirc, the aco only heals her for around 9,999 and has a cooldown before he heals again. So if you stay consistent with casts, you'll probably be able to outdamage it.

My suggestion for the chakram was based on how many weap options your gx already has compared to other slots hahah
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Posted 12 December 2019 - 03:14 AM

Hit-and-run usually always works :heh:
 

 

omg I can't believe we finally beat floor 60 today.

and I can't believe we got our first MVP card :sob:

Bapho's EQ hits like a truck lol wtf :heh: no i dont have enough skill points for maelstrom yet

 

Anyway that's our last run for today, again thank you all for the advice. :thx:

 

[edit]

 

also there seems to be a poison bottle supply crisis this week so I had to sit down and brew some. no wonder no one brews these anymore, the cooldown is atrocious

 

 

 


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Posted 12 December 2019 - 03:45 AM

i wish i can join you guys. ;w; WL lv115/38, celine set x survivor set + magician gloves. Solo ET until drake. ;w; 


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Posted 06 February 2020 - 01:50 PM

Feb 06 update:

 

Still stuck at floor 75 but more of we ran out of time. Some bad timing with work-related calls stalled our run. We should really do runs on a weekend.

Snagged an Emerald Ring for my SC before the run, now hoping to afford another one.

 

This time we dragged a linker slave to berserk pitch the GX for the heck of it :heh:

 

I was anxious the whole time thinking that stupid EAC-related violation error might jump out of nowhere.


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Posted 08 February 2020 - 08:12 PM

You had 2 option:
1. Kill as fast as you can using high dps skill like cart cannon, ranger auto attack,chain lightning spam,dragon breath,arm cannon, gx crit.
2. Use high burst damage skill like arrow storm under unlimit buff,tetra vortex,asura strike to kill mvp within one hit.
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Posted 09 February 2020 - 10:19 AM

I am not a ranger.


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Posted 10 February 2020 - 07:50 AM

75 is darklord & baphomet right?

given the info, i dont think you will be stuck at 75
you're probably against time on your previous runs.

 

just separate the mvps.
lure either out first

either burst down bapho before EQ kicks in.
or you stay further away.

 

the problem is your team gona be stuck at ifrit

 


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Posted 14 February 2020 - 03:20 AM

75 is darklord & baphomet right?

given the info, i dont think you will be stuck at 75
you're probably against time on your previous runs.

 

just separate the mvps.
lure either out first

either burst down bapho before EQ kicks in.
or you stay further away.

 

the problem is your team gona be stuck at ifrit

 

 

Thanks for the advice, managed to beat floor 75. We didn't have much time left after that floor so we tried blitzing as far as we could. Reached 80 and FBH got us wiped. :ph34r:

Looks like we'll be stuck here for a while. :heh:
 


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Posted 15 February 2020 - 01:00 PM

this is fun.

https://www.divine-p.../falling-bishop

make sure that GX has enough HIT for the mvp
Tank the mvp & RC all the way!

use leech gear along with tank. 

Hallu walk will help you for abit

Bring some RJ, stupid banshee will curse you.

Bring some berry/seed just in case

 

if you bringing her along

105 - AB (alt) - buffs + pneuma slave + backup for certain mvps

assump + aspersio helps.

 

SC just double strafe all the way.
leave the banshee for GX to leech HP 

unless gx is having a hard time, then you might want to clear the banshee

 

Spoiler gx gear

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 01:42 PM

Today's update:

 

Still stuck at 80.

 

Since I got an emerald ring recently, I don't have a need for Triangle Shot (my DS can almost outdamage it but it's cheaper to cast so). I reset my SC and got Maelstrom instead.

Maelstrom definitely saved our ass dealing with Bapho's EQ. Bapho was a sitting duck without EQ I'm amazed :heh:

 

Managed to find a good deal on AK cards and bought 2. As suggested by ninJedi in an earlier post, I decarded the HF off the Chakram and put AK instead. Also my bad the thana katar didn't have a card for the longest time, I thought it did, but  stuffed an AK card there too anyway.

 

Also I just read in older threads Poison armour is good for holy/shadow defense, should I consider that instead of trying to find a Bathory card/Shadow armour?

 

this is fun.

https://www.divine-p.../falling-bishop

make sure that GX has enough HIT for the mvp
Tank the mvp & RC all the way!

use leech gear along with tank. 

Hallu walk will help you for abit

Bring some RJ, stupid banshee will curse you.

Bring some berry/seed just in case

 

if you bringing her along

105 - AB (alt) - buffs + pneuma slave + backup for certain mvps

assump + aspersio helps.

 

SC just double strafe all the way.
leave the banshee for GX to leech HP 

unless gx is having a hard time, then you might want to clear the banshee

 

Spoiler gx gear

 

My husband's GX doesn't have hallu walk yet unfortunately. Also, is there a way to reduce GC damage?

 

[edit]

 

Just now I found an emerald ring for sale so I grabbed it, now I have 2 :p_hi:
 


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Posted 28 February 2020 - 03:03 AM

Feb 28, Finally beat floor 80 by sheer dumb luck. Not too optimistic we can replicate this on our next run. :heh: We had roughly had 7 minutes left and just YOLO'd at Ifrit to die.

 

By sheer luck, I cheekily kept doing AS + backslide and my husband's GX finished off FBH with a few spins. Don't think we'll be this lucky next time though.

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Posted 28 February 2020 - 09:26 AM

Love these kinds of threads -w- What are your current levels and gears? It gives a better scope for strategies. Also, budget :A So we can better suggest goals.

 

Let me paste a mini guide from soloing with Gene guide. Some things don't apply, but for the most part you can get ideas for set ups. Having a tank helps a ton. New observations will be in Blue.
 

Spoiler
 
Some general tips:
 
- Hallu Walk will help a TON on many MVPs. It needs to be paired with good DPS to get the most of it, though.
- Use a full on tank when possible. Having a shield is imperative to face tank some MVPs at those levels. SC can still tank pretty well.
- Cheese it up! CRS and Back Slide XD In a pinch, you want that kill no matter what. Practice your backslide, carry Speed Pots, use Halter Lead. Lex Aeterna before each CRS and you can cheese it up really well. Also, since there's no Tele, you can try to cheese with Ankle Snare if that's still possible :A
- Study the MVPs, learn their attacks and when they use them. Exploit those behaviors.
- If your DPS is not high enough, focus on survival. It's slower, but will be easier on you, your party and everyone's sanity.
 
Some (relative) budget gear you can look for:
 
- +9~+10 Fire Armor [Frus], Cat O Nine Tails Shoes, Magic Reflector [Maya]: You can do some or all. Thing is, when no GTB in sight, reflecting EQ is a legit strat. You can stack up to 84% chance to reflect (and thus survive) EQ. Even without Maya, a +10 Frus armor gives you 20% extra on top of Hallu Walk. If you are good with hotkeys, you can change between Katar/DD to shield to survive the EQ and then change back. If not, let tank have the reflect gear. Fire Armor because Ifrit :A If you can have a +10 Frus Wind armor as well (Valk/Bapho), all the better. I know they may not seem than budget-y, but compared to a GTB, they are mega cheap.
- Gray Armor and Shield: For FBH mainly. Use Argiope Gray Armor and Khalitzburg Gray Shield. Tank should be handling him super well with that set up.
- Deviling: I think this should be a main investment. Not as expensive as it use to.
- Elemental Nidhoggr Garments: Can give you that extra elemental resist to not die to certain attacks. I know you'll sac DPS, but if you can't survive the hits, DPS means nothing (unless it's enough to kill before he hits you. Compromise!)
- Elemental AK helms + Elemental Resist Mid HG: Same reason as above. Permeter, Leib Olmai, Leaf Cat, Giant Hornet, Giearth are the ones. I had a full set back in the day and I loved them -w-
 
Do keep us updated :D Eager to see your first completion!

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Posted 28 February 2020 - 11:24 PM

Oh that reminds me

Scaraba Mercenaries (from the scrolls) can really help a lot with tanking EQ, pulling dangerous monsters, getting used as a target for MVPs with Dispell-on-sight, and also for holding annoying monsters that you don't wanna deal with right away (I noticed that monsters tend to prioritize targetting mercenaries instead of the player).

It's really nice when you know someone who can sell you those scaraba scrolls in bulk for a good price :heh: haha
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Posted 04 March 2020 - 11:47 PM

Sorry for highjacking this thread but I am also want to accomplish the same thing but solo. How far can I go with my RK with these gears

 

Im planning to start ET at level 135 or so (129 atm).

 

+8 RBDH

+7Fafnir

Temp Dex ea4

+9Myst Muff

+9 Tae (range set)

Hurt accessories (+200 mana)

 

Im worried about not having elemental armors because of Fafnir. 

 

As much as possible I dont want to multiclient. Don't have much time and energy to do it. 

 

Im thinking of just kiting with db in between portals.

 

Edit: I will be happy to reach floor 80 lol


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Posted 05 March 2020 - 04:24 AM

Any particular reason why you're holding off on ET for until lvl 135?
With those gears on a db rk, you're pretty much set to clear a couple bosses already. If you're worried about surviveability, you can prepare an alternate 1-hand weapon+shield set with alice card and some element-proof potions.

Also, are you already aware that portals in ET are one-way only?
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Posted 05 March 2020 - 07:01 AM

Any particular reason why you're holding off on ET for until lvl 135?

 

 

I just not confident going at level 130 and I think I can level up more during that 7 day cooldown. I guess Ill try later this week

 

 

 

Also, are you already aware that portals in ET are one-way only?

 

 

Wut?! I guess I remember it wrong. 


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Posted 05 March 2020 - 07:35 AM

ppl have done it at lvl100 already, just give it a go. 5 Levels will not be more impactfull to you than actual hands on experience.


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