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#1 Chorvaqueen

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Posted 11 December 2019 - 10:45 PM

I doubt something can be done when there's like a day (or two) before server closes but

 

for future reference, is hoarding the Wizard of Truth reportable?

 

We did ask nicely first for just one kill but got ignored.


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#2 YongkySH

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Posted 11 December 2019 - 10:48 PM

KS him
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Posted 12 December 2019 - 12:01 AM

Did you send a ticket and/or PM the staff about this?
Posts say the mob has a fixed spawn location so that may contribute, to whatever the issue is.


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Posted 12 December 2019 - 02:39 AM

u mean, an autocast AB standing at wizard of truth's fixed respawn spot whole time and spamming greed? i just saw someone doing that like 5 hours ago. I just get irritated and throw Jupiter thunder, "forced" to ks him in order to complete the quest. 


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Posted 12 December 2019 - 03:02 AM

Did you send a ticket and/or PM the staff about this?
Posts say the mob has a fixed spawn location so that may contribute, to whatever the issue is.

 

I didn't. Had to chase an ET run tonight. Is the Wizard is FFA though?

 

u mean, an autocast AB standing at wizard of truth's fixed respawn spot whole time and spamming greed? i just saw someone doing that like 5 hours ago. I just get irritated and throw Jupiter thunder, "forced" to ks him in order to complete the quest. 

Same guy yeah.

We did a /heh first and the AB replied back with a /heh then asked nicely for just 1 kill. :pif:

 

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well he's gone now


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Posted 12 December 2019 - 04:01 AM

I didn't. Had to chase an ET run tonight. Is the Wizard is FFA though?

 
Here's the official chart:

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I don't know what's the status of the mob in question, is it MVP or normal?

 

That's said, I have a lot to say in regarding AFK leveling, but personally speaking if they are indeed doing as described by Foxier then that will cause inconvenience to users interested in finishing the daily.

 

I'll bring this issue to Campitor myself, the fixed spawn that is. But do send in a ticket with detail of the incident and how it is affecting your quest/daily. Replay video/screenshots will be needed.


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Posted 12 December 2019 - 04:05 AM

Well, there's only 1 natural spawn.
And even if you summon extra via crazed adventurer kills they'll still spawn in the same place.

I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be given an exception and considered ffa
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Posted 12 December 2019 - 04:07 AM

He's a normal monster, cinn.
But the way his stats are built compared to the other monsters in the map, and the way the illusion dungeon's lore describes him, he functions somewhat like a mini-boss

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#9 Foxier

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Posted 12 December 2019 - 08:40 AM

he is "normal" monster and yet not normal... kinda a mini boss to be killed one time for the daily quest. whole map has only 2 Wizard of Truth if not mistaken. (I just started doing illusion of moonlight recently, not very confirm). the 2nd one kinda respawn not far away from the main issue one which respawn at fixed spot almost instantly. the 2nd one kinda not always appear. but either way, since 2nd one's respawn spot also close to main one and both always cast Lord of Vermillion immediately after encounter player, practically he hoarding two Wizard of Truth.  :p_swt:


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Posted 12 December 2019 - 09:45 AM

Why doesn't iRO make it so everyone gets the exp/killcount as long as the monster is targeting you? There kill stealing means nothing, you'd be helping them. Oh wait, ragnarok devs are lazy as F.


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Posted 12 December 2019 - 12:23 PM

whole map has only 2 Wizard of Truth if not mistaken

The map has only 1 natural spawn at the fixed location, with around 5 sec respawn time.

But you can spawn extras:
Kill 12 Deranged Adventurer > spawn 1 extra Wizard of Truth (can be done more than once and doesn't have respawn)
Also spawns in the same location

Edited by ninJedi, 12 December 2019 - 12:27 PM.

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Posted 12 December 2019 - 08:13 PM

Why doesn't iRO make it so everyone gets the exp/killcount as long as the monster is targeting you? There kill stealing means nothing, you'd be helping them. Oh wait, ragnarok devs are lazy as F.

 

hah.... the Wizard of Truth will immediately attack/target the autocast dude upon its respawn since the dude standing at its respawn spot exactly. means, other people are forced to KS in order to complete the quest. so, if that system u said implemented, then other people cant complete the quest anymore? @.@

 

The map has only 1 natural spawn at the fixed location, with around 5 sec respawn time.

But you can spawn extras:
Kill 12 Deranged Adventurer > spawn 1 extra Wizard of Truth (can be done more than once and doesn't have respawn)
Also spawns in the same location

I see.. that's the mechanism.  :p_omg:


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Posted 12 December 2019 - 08:44 PM

hah.... the Wizard of Truth will immediately attack/target the autocast dude upon its respawn since the dude standing at its respawn spot exactly. means, other people are forced to KS in order to complete the quest. so, if that system u said implemented, then other people cant complete the quest anymore? @.@

 

I see.. that's the mechanism.  :p_omg:

If iRO uses the method I mentioned KS wouldn't matter.


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Posted 13 December 2019 - 09:16 AM

Why doesn't iRO make it so everyone gets the exp/killcount as long as the monster is targeting you?


I did want to suggest something like this before tbh, but then that stuff with widespread afk-autocasters happened.



What he means is that since the wiz of truth is targetting the aggressively wiz-hoarding camper, even with ks they still won't be able to get the killcount to complete the quest, since the killcount will go to that camper instead (if following that system)
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Posted 13 December 2019 - 09:23 AM

I did want to suggest something like this before tbh, but then that stuff with widespread afk-autocasters happened.



What he means is that since the wiz of truth is targetting the aggressively wiz-hoarding camper, even with ks they still won't be able to get the killcount to complete the quest, since the killcount will go to that camper instead (if following that system)

 

I know what he means. With my method everyone would get the kill count. Targeted player gets EXP/kill count Killer gets EXP/kill count.


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Posted 13 December 2019 - 10:58 AM

Chorvaqueen,

As I was informed earlier today, for this specific action/incident, it is an ill mannered behavior as it obstructs progress of players, therefore reportable. So kindly go ahead and send in a ticket, do not take matters into your own hands ;). The GM staff has also been notified.

 

As for the spawn mechanics, it will be looked into if it's something that can be adjusted.


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Posted 13 December 2019 - 04:09 PM

Chorvaqueen,

As I was informed earlier today, for this specific action/incident, it is an ill mannered behavior as it obstructs progress of players, therefore reportable. So kindly go ahead and send in a ticket, do not take matters into your own hands ;). The GM staff has also been notified.

 

As for the spawn mechanics, it will be looked into if it's something that can be adjusted.

umm probably just change wizard of truth's respawn mechanics from instant to maybe 2 minutes to 5 minutes interval or maybe change its fixed respawn spot to limited random respawn area like still in south west area a.k.a pond area but not fixed at one spot there. at least players still not hard to find wizard of truth since the mini boss still in the specific small area to be encountered. and, a.f......ker cant camp-and-farm wizard of truth at fixed spot. 


Edited by Foxier, 13 December 2019 - 04:10 PM.

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